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can i sue brother misusing poa and stealing over300,000 in check he made out to himself the day before dad died did my brother misuse his poa be cashing 2 of dad check s and giving the money to him self . We were sopposed to divide all moneys between the two of us but he kepy all of it a nd says he owes me nothing

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This is theft and because your dad was still alive is considered elder abuse. ASAP call the district attorney's office in the county where your dad lived report your brother and ask for an inquiry. After someone dies the law requires probate of the estate - especially if there is money or debt left behind. This is to ensure that creditors are paid off THEN money can be distributed to heirs. His failure to ensure that all bills are paid BEFORE doling out funds is illegal.
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I AGREE and I would be sure that you get an attorney who has dealt with these issues before!!! Honestly it is amazing how people can justify their behaviour when money is involved!!!
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I also agree with LynnPO. Not only is the cashing of those checks fraudulent, but as POA for your father, your brother had an obligation to handle your fathers financial matters including the payment of bills and if he is also named the Executor of your father's estate, then is responsible for handling all the details associated with Probate and other tax issues. This is not just a title. Your brother may be committing a federal crime if he is not in conformance with the legal duties of Executor. BTW--another very quick way to get action would have been to call the bank where your father had his checking account and inform the manager what had taken place. The bank has legal obligations in this matter because the amount of the check(s) exceeded $10,000 So it is not too late to take this action as well as what LynnPO suggested.
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Colleen, of course your brother had no right to do what he did. ezcare made an excellent suggestion when she said to talk to the bank manager. I am surprised that the bank honoured the cheque since it was for such a large amount. I hope your brother isn't the executor of your father's estate. If he can be found guilty of not handling his POA duties properly, I would think he would no longer be considered fit to serve as executor. Too bad that your father was such a traditionalist and left all his financial affairs in the hands of his son. Good luck in dealing with your brother, Colleen.
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Sounds like thirty years in prison for me...What the heck did he think he would get away with this...it's like a bad movie. Have him arrested immediately.
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Right on, AlzCaregiver!!
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This is elder abuse and you have every right to report your brother to the DA's office to have this investigated.

Diane
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It sounds like abuse, from what you say here. You'll need an elder law attorney or estate attorney to help you.
Good luck,
Carol
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I thought I had heard it all in this forum...but, stealing large amounts of money from your father while is on his death bed just takes the cake!!!
Your sib deserves to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and then some. How deplorable!
Good luck. Dealing with both a criminal and attorneys is just not what you needed right now.
Geezzz....I hope there is a hot rock in hell waiting for these creeps.
Lilli
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I find myself in a similar situation with my sister who is executrix of my father's estate, although as far as I know, she waited until he had passed before the games began. She refuses me access to any of the records or files on the estate,(I have had to go the surrogates court for what little proof I have) and refuses me access to OUR estate atty.

I am now in the ugly position of having to hire a lawyer and let them proceed no matter the consequences to my sister.

Do what you must do, but try to file it all away in your mind as JUST BUSINESS, and leave your heart free for the important stuff. Best of luck.
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I too am in the same situation. My mother has lived with all 3 of us girls and is currently with the oldest who is POA. POA has cleaned out mom's bank accounts, has had mom gift her our family home and land, and refuses to let us visit our mom. Vehicles have been titled over to her children. All life insurances are now in living trusts to go to POA !! Attorney is hired and court date is this week !!!
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My brother wrote three checks, one $9,000 and two $9,500 using POA just before dad died. The last two I suspect were written after his death as they were cashed two afterwards, but dated the day before. He is administer of estate and it is pretty much all gone since he says dad told him to give most of the money to his family, although the will says it was supposed to be half and half between us two. I would guess the checks were all under $10,000 due to what ezcare said. I wondered why the amount was like that and not just $28,900. Thank you for added info into this ongoing action. Probate has recended his letters and my attorney is pursuing case. I don't really want him to go to jail. I would just like my half.
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I'm flying back to the town where dad died and probate is being held Monday. It's been almost two years now. I hope the court will do the right thing. After a court ordered disclosure I found a lot of things my brother did and didn't do. He never put up a head stone as dad requested in his will. He used his POA after dad died to close one account and put the money in his own bank (almost $100,000) and put his name on the other account as co-owner. This account is still open! There are a lot of other things he did to take everything dad left. When court took away his right to administer the estate, he still was writing checks on it. I have documents for all of it. It is very frustrating how slow the system works, but I am hoping the judge will look at all the information and do something about all the abuse my brother did to the estate. It seems that a lot of people take advantage when a loved one is sick or passes away. How can they do it and sleep at night? I took care of dad while he was dying of cancer and never asked for nor expected any pay. It was my chance to spend time with my dad before he was gone. I would never have thought to take advantage or influence dad. Before he was on hospice, he put my brother and me in his will share and share alike but it seems my brother wanted everything. I just don't understand why someone can act like that.
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what can I do if I do not agree with what going with my brother care and meds
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Until forced to resign, my brother was POA for my mother for four years. My mom is an Alzheimer's patient and has been incompetent and unable to manage her finances for almost 6 years. Just three weeks before becoming her POA he took her to his bank and had her sign signature cards with him to open both a joint checking and savings account. She could barely sign her name but it was just legible enough to be recognizable. My brother filled out all the accompanying new account paperwork and checked that the accounts would both be treated with full rights of survivorship upon the death of either account holder. (I doubt he was concerned that he may pass away before my mother who is now in the late stages of the disease.) During his time as POA, I was Secondary and as the oldest and only daughter I suppose fell into the often unavoidable routine of taking on the majority of the caregiving, even though she was and still is in a nursing home in another city.....3 miles from my brother's home. I handled and saw just enough as secondary POA since he was most often unavailable to grow increasingly suspicious of his handling of my mother's finances. He habitually refused to provide me with even the most ordinary information about her financial status even when I had to ask because I was making most of the medical and residential decisions as secondary POA and HCPOA, made hundreds of claims and statements about how he had a "system". and every answer I was actually able to get from him was contradicted by some other answer or explanation for the next question I would ask. I will make a very long and despicable story short......I hired an attorney who was able to convince my brother to resign as my mom's POA to avoid an adversarial application by me for guardianship. Such an application would have required that I provide evidence showing why her existing POA was not fit to take the responsibility of guardianship. The thought of anyone being aware of what he was doing had him signing on the dotted line in seconds. I became her POA and from that time on I was able to go through every detail of every statement connected to her finances while my brother was her POA. The result, in order to recover the 3000,00. he took from her over four years by transferring her money into his own account, using the checks for his own expenses, paying for his children's college tuition from her investment account, I filed a lawsuit. Because of the amount and the dozens and dozens of documents that clearly prove constructive fraud and intent, malice and of course breach of fiduciary duty, the hearing is set to take place as a jury trial which would also make it possible to recover punitive damages....particularly the huge legal fees. We are not far from the court date so depositions and mediation have begun. During my brother's deposition, it was revealed that he has been in debt to the IRS for 65,000 for the last three years, makes barely enough to get by as the vastly successful, ambitious professional he has portrayed himself to be (even his bio on his company's website is fraudulent with claims of advanced education and success neither of which are even close to the truth). He is basically penniless and his attorney brought copies of the last four years of tax returns to prove his poverty. Without access to my mother's money as a second income (which he spent lavishly....not even a cent toward his debt to the IRS) His attorney had a conference with my mother's attorney after the first mediation session (which lasted all of about an hour) and admitted that even trying to collect through a promissory note over a long period of time was hopeless......he will just default on it. I know that there will be some personal consequences for him but that does not help my mother and I am really beating myself up for that. Had I known even two years ago what I know now, had the evidence I have and the proof that makes me physically ill, I would have started with the District Attorney with the hope that it would be handled as a criminal matter.....which it is. DA's are usually very reluctant to take on issues exploitation of an elder when the perpetrator is a family member. They often feel that those issues should be settled in civil court. But the evidence against him is overwhelming and irrefutable and now that I have learned that he himself is a fraud I'm not convinced that he might not become a danger to others.......with me at the top of the list. The court can take what little he has (a small house in need of repair and one car) but will have to get in line behind the IRS. I feel like I have cost my mother money that I can never recover for her. She is in the late stages of Alzheimer's and to even allow myself to consider how someone could do this kind of thing to anyone, much, much less their own mother just sends me to a really bad place. Is this something I will eventually have to make peace with as the hardest lesson of my life or under these circumstances is there any process for turning this over to the DA now? I will always feel sick when I think about what it has cost my mother financially just to find out at the 11th hour that her son is a fraud and a criminal. I am grateful in some ways that her diseased has progressed to the stage that she will never know any of this, but I need some sense that my brother will be held accountable and suffer some serious consequences as a result of his crime against my mother.
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My husband has Lou Gerhings , I am POA he said I could purchase a car. I didn't buy the car he said I could buy and we are going through a divorce. I just learned he have filed criminal charges against me for misuse of POA.
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My husband has Lou Gerhings , I am POA he said I could purchase a car. I didn't buy the car he said I could buy and we are going through a divorce. I just learned he have filed criminal charges against me for misuse of POA.
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My brother was my poa when he died I found out he stole 100,000 dollar. What can I do about this.
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what brother when money is in question people come out of the woodwork claiming to be a sibling or cousin, I have never met this so-called brother, he is a liar and a thief why haven't we met if we are siblings?
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Why haven't I ben notified by the courts of these power of attorney's or proxy's to my probate account , the state of new York never notified me correctly, I wasn't told until I was an adult, and still family trying everything to stop me from getting access to my estate that I am the sole heiress of. I am not handicapped or mentally ill, why didn't the courts investigate this fraud? Can I sue the court for giving frauds access to my inheritance or estate?
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In some of the previous posts various people have mentioned the requirement that banks report to the IRS if a transaction is over $10,000. Just wanted to mention that the banking laws also apply to "structuring", which the term applied to avoiding the bank reporting requirement by, for example, making 10 deposits for $9,999 each to deposit $100,000 - instead of depositing it in one sum. The IRS is wise to this practice and it is a felony punishable by fine and up to 5 years in federal prison. If bank personnel fail to report it they could be fined and/or prosecuted as well. So generally not a good idea. Sometimes getting the IRS involved is a good way to get the ball rolling when it comes to our clever fraudulent siblings. For instance, I don't have proof (yet) but pretty sure my sister has finagled about $200k out of our mom over the past year. I can either contact an attorney and hook up a vacuum to my savings account to find out, or I can simply contact the IRS and have them investigate her for free. I have a feeling they will make her wish she never weasled a dime of our mom's money. If they deem it a gift there will be taxes, interest and penalties - Oh My. Not to mention the tax evasion aspect if she fails to report the "gift".
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2nd best - just remember the gift tax is owed by the GIVER not the recipient. So the taxes and penalties would be owed by your mother. Be careful in reporting.
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Thanks for your comment guestshopadmin. Yes, I'm aware that the "giver" is the one that owes gift tax, but I thought I would wait until after my mom is gone to report it. In that case I would think the IRS would go after my sister instead, but not sure how that would be handled. Seems like they would want the tax however they can get it. Or they could just deem it an inheritance at that point - not sure.
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my father recently passed away leaving power of attorney to his twin sister,& he also left no will.it was my fathers wishes for me to live in his mobile home & take care of his 3 dogs that he loved dearly!. my aunt refuses to meet me at the credit union so i can find out what i need to do to keep the mobilehome. it appears that she has takin all the money out of my fathers bank account,just to name a few...no i see why see doesnt want to help me..she wont return my calls or anything i live in fear everyday that they are gonna come & tell me to leave the mobile home...i cant believe my aunt is doing this to me!....i would like to see her put in jail!!!..what can i do?...
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Jeff, your aunt's POA expired upon your father's death. The judge will appoint an executor at probate. Different inheritance laws in different states. Kansas seems to be as follows:

Who Gets What in Kansas?
Under intestate succession, who gets what depends on whether or not you have living children, parents, or other close relatives when you die. Here’s a quick overview:

•children but no spouse - children inherit everything

•spouse but no descendants - spouse inherits everything

•spouse and descendants - spouse inherits 1/2 of your intestate property & descendants inherit 1/2 of your intestate property

•parents but no spouse or descendants - parents inherit everything

•siblings but no spouse, descendants, or parents - siblings inherit everything
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What if your father has put your brother on his checking account, does that give him as much right to the money in the account(even though it was incase he could not pay his own bills (father))?
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Where to turn, I can't help but wonder if the phony site and begging pennilessness is phony baloney and a good private detective might unearth what he really did with the money. That is one sad story though, for sure, either way.
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Yes, JustAlnLaw, your brother now equally owns the funds in the joint account with your father. My sister did the same thing so I asked the IRS about it for an explanation of how that works. While your father is alive your brother can spend the money in the account any way he wants. He has ownership of it every bit as much as your father does. When your father dies all the money in the account is 100% your brother's. It is not deemed as part of your father's estate since your brother is the joint owner. He is not obligated to share it with any other beneficiaries as designated in your father's will. This is a common way that a sibling can hijack your inheritance - by circumventing the will. Let's say your dad's will says you and 3 other siblings share his estate equally. At the time of his death he has a joint bank account with your brother with $150k balance. He has an Annuity of $500k with only your brother listed as beneficiary, and a house with your brother as joint owner. The rest of his assets total $20k (furniture, car, etc.) Your brother's inheritance would be $650k and whatever the house sells for. The estate of $20k would be split 4 ways, and you and your three siblings would each get $5k of that (bringing brother's total to $655k). Bank accounts with POD (payable on death) or joint ownership are outside of the will and are not included in the estate. Same applies to Annuities and Insurance policies that have named beneficiaries, also joint property ownership. So in this way, your brother would walk away with the bulk of your dad's estate, even though your dad's will spelled out that he wanted his four children to share his estate equally. This is a common way that a sneaky, conniving sibling can make out like a bandit right under their parent's and siblings' noses. My sister has been setting this same scenario up for herself since our father died and our mother is too clueless to understand how it all works. If I bring up the subject to her, I am deemed the greedy and paranoid sister.
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What if a son with a Power of Attorney, was asked by his father who has full mental capacity to make this decision, to invest in Real estate? To buy foreclosures, fix them, rent them, and when he passes, to give each child a home to supplement the child income, and the rental income would be will-able to grandchildren if they wished? Knowing the son would have many expenses along the way to do this for 7 children, and wasn't concerned if he took care of his own financial needs while accomplishing this?
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Jerryhomes, for something that complex, I would ensure that it was all legal and above board by seeing an attorney that specializes in elder law.

While we can give our opinions and tell related stories on this board, we are not attorneys (that I know of).
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