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If u love him and it is mutual it can work. You just have to go in with your eyes wide open. Ove can overcome any situation! I asked my (now husband) to date me with no sex in sight until we were married as those were my values. Well guess what? He did respect my wishes and have been married 13 years now, and have two kids. Most people would say it was impossible (as I was a 30 year old virgin when we began dating) that any man would go by those rules......but he did!!!! If u respect his decision to care for this lady, and u love himdoNOT throw away the love of your life!!! That would be foolish. It would have been like my husband throwing me away because I would not have pre-matital sex! Wish u the best!!!
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Let me put it like this..... I dated a guy for years who was looking after his relative, and when she finally ended up in the nursing home, he left town. Which means he also left me. Think twice about this.
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Continue to date...keep your own space...even if you marry him...KEEP your own SPACE where you are living now..YOU are going to be competing with 2 elderly women who are needy and ill and will only get more needy..I would never marry him in a million years even if he came with a billion dollars tied around his pecker..! THIS IS A LOT OF WORK!!
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There are worse things in life than being single.
You sound like an accomplished woman. Please do not "settle" for these circumstances. They will only get worse as Sally continues to deteriorate mentally. You have not grown to know this man under any other circumstances, so you might have some surprises when he no longer has this commitment to Sally.
Please do not waste any more of your time trying to justify this relationship. Cut your losses, and save your heart for the kind of relationship and man who is worthy of you. Best wishes.
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Once you move in...Your his ticket to freedom..he will give you all the duties...to HELP..he will say..I never get out of here...take care of them for a while..and three days later he shows up.....If they die ....then there will be WHO DONE IT and you caught up in that mess...NO MATTER HOW ATTRACTIVE 2 condos look to you...it is not worth it...CARING for OTHERS is a PAIN...I love my husband with dementia....but he is driving me over the edge...he says nothing is wrong...but he leaves the water on and floods the floor..THIS is just a small thing in the scheme of things....IF YOU TAKE this on...at your young age..YOU GOT YOUR WORK AHEAD OF YOU...and not much SANITY will be left...the SON will FIGHT this and prob win...all BF gonna get is what he is PAID...and then he is OUT and you will be out with HIM!
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Rights to the home, if something happens 2 e either one of them should be your last concern! Your marriage WILL NOT work in this situation! I take take care of my mom&it is a nightmare, due to her verbal abuse&has put a strain on my relationship of 19yrs. W/fiance! Do NOT, DO THIS!!
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OMG! WARNING! Do not , repeat do not move in with this guy.Something is very very wrong with this situation.
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Get out of this right now. I don't care what degrees either of you have. There is a difference between being educated and being survival smart and you need to learn it ASAP. And don't do it again!
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Hi everyone, I really appreciate all the feedback, and have been coming back to this forum from time to time, to read all the comments again. I made a committment to myself that I would absolutely never live there, and that I would be willing to continue dating him for a while longer to see if, through other circumstances with this job - he might decide to make a change himself. Last night, I prayed about this and asked that the answer be revealed. This morning, coincidentally, he called me and says that essentially, he is being 'fired'. Apparently one of the elderly lady's caregivers (who is also an accountant) and her have been discussing over the past 2 months how to get rid of my boyfriend. Today, the lady's son and grandson showed up and demanded he move out right away or they would take legal action and claim he was taking financial advantage of her. He signed papers giving up his rights to the condos in order to avoid legal action, and he is moving out today. I told him he could stay with me for a little while until he makes a plan for a job and place to live. I'm feeling relieved to be honest, but I also feel angry at him - because he got himself into this situation in the first place, and the threat of her changing her mind and wanting out of the situation was always a looming possibility. He should have been planning for this possibility all along!! Will keep you guys updated. Thanks again.
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You're taking him in! Good luck! Wonder how long it will take for him to find a real job. Sorry but this has had a foul odor since the beginning.
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Yikes - be careful - you've turned into his new "sugar mama" that several of us predicted you would be if sugar mama #1 fizzled out. Give him a deadline, like two weeks, or you'll be supporting his lazy butt for life. Sorry to be so blunt, but there's something wrong with him. I predict he won't be in any hurry to find something else.
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I agree with giving him a deadline..
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Your boyfriend sounds like a loser, Ms.Maverick. You've already been too kind to him. The longer you stay with him, having your life aid his needs, the more he'll use you and later leave you. The guy needs to wake up and own himself.
At this point, I think you should learn about co-dependent behaviors and people who enable others to engage in irresponsible behaviors. No one is perfect, but there sure are pitfalls and patterns that people have. The book that clued me in was, "Women Who Love Too Much: when you are wishing and hoping he'll change." You'll learn about YOUR tendencies and then you can make better choices. Best wishes to a free and loving life.
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Interesting turn of events, and I still see red flags. Please keep your eyes wide open, and be alert to his choices and how he moves forward with his life. Just because he's now out of this questionable situation doesn't mean he won't make other bad choices.
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I don't want to "rain on your parade" but I think this new development is worse because once he moves in it will be harder to get him out physically when you realize that there's something very, very wrong about this man's choices, unwillingness to work in his chosen profession, and what I'm beginning to think is a predatory lifestyle.

I wonder how much he really did for this woman, and why all of a sudden the situation changed drastically. Clearly there were some red flags with her as well.

I can't help wondering if this is how he's spent his last several years, moving from one woman to another, ostensibly helping. It would be interesting to get a background check on him to find out if he's telling the truth about his past.

This man apparently made no other plans beyond spending his life caring for this woman, now suddenly those plans can't be carried out. But you're now throwing him a life preserver by offering him an alternate arrangement.

He needs to really be a man, stand on his own 2 feet and get a job even if it's a entry level temporary job while he finds a place to live. His planning skills are lacking, to say the least.

I also agree with Judda's suggestion that you study co-dependent behaviors.

Sorry to be blunt, but I think it's appropriate as a wake-up call is needed here.
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And I still keep wondering if this wasn't a troll's effort to get attention.

And in retrospect, I don't think I would ever invite to live with mesomeone I'd only dated for such a short time.

Better hide the jewelery, charge cards and documentation of financial assets, just in case.
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I don't want to sound rude but I'm new to AC. How do I ask a question about legal matters concerning my mil. Poa guardianship and money hungry family?
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Turnof the page, click on Ask a Question on the Forum homepage. The link is just above the list of questions.

https://www.agingcare.com/Caregiver-Forum
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Oh yes - I definitely will be giving him a deadline soon. I do not plan to support him financially, and don't want him living here more than a few weeks. His unwise choices have gotten him into this situation and its up to him to get out. I found out tonight that this lady loaned him 60,000 to pay off his mortgage (he owns a home in another state) and a separate loan for several thousand dollars for music equipment!! He had been paying her back monthly, and apparently they were willing to let that go if he moved out today. I don't understand how he thought that borrowing money from her was a good idea, or how he didnt get any type of written contract. He told me he made a moral committment to her for the rest of her life, which of course is over now. Ellanz - I totally agree. This will be a crucial time to see how he chooses to move forward. He has worked in his profession in the past - working in group homes and such, but hasn't done it in several years. Tonight he said I could send him job openings so seems to be open to the fact he will have to get a 'real' job. It's a shame - he's got so many great qualities except for all this.
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You can send him job openings? Why can't he find his own job openings? I don't get it. If he doesn't have online access on his own, he can go to any library to get it.

He sounds more and more like a grifter the more you explain about him and his choices. He got a $60k loan from an elderly woman who was unrelated to him and going downhill -- with no paperwork to document his repayment schedule or the amount of the loan? Totally shady. And another loan on top of that? He's lucky they didn't charge him with theft. Cut your losses with this guy - he's nothing but trouble.
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The more I read about this the more incredible and unbelieveable it is. Why would anyone loan someone $60K to pay off a mortgage, and why can't he stay at his other home in another state? This guy is a parasite.

If the woman and her accountant were willing to write off that and the music equipment loan, there were obviously some very good reasons why they wanted him out of there now. That is, IF this is all true.

"Tonight he said I could send him job openings so seems to be open to the fact he will have to get a 'real' job."

Isn't that generous of him - why can't he do his own job hunting?

"he's got so many great qualities except for all this."

I just can't believe anyone could find any qualities in this man to be even a "boyfriend."


Now I really think all this was just a troll post to manipulate and get reactions from other posters. Often trolls are pity partiers, but this one is just jerking our chains.

Even though I said sometime ago I wouldn't follow up on this thread, I now think the OP needs to know that she's wasted a lot of time playing this silly game. And look at her screen name - it says a lot about her.
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Thanks so much for the update, maverick. A lot should be revealed in the next few months, enabling you to make reasonable decisions.
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Maverick, the more you tell us the worse the picture looks. Set a the day of his departure and back off from this relationship. If he isn't dangerous, I'd hint that you have second thoughts about being this close or give him the hint that you're unsure of him. But only if that's safe. He could be a very unstable person. Don't help him anymore. See if that drives him away. I bet it would. One of these days in the near future you'll look back at today and think, "gosh, what was I thinking?"
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What blannie wrote.

I would not take him in. You are buying trouble. Why are you continuing to date a man who is in such a murky situation? I think you would benefit from counselling, as juddha suggested. Look after yourself. I think you are in for trouble from him.
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Juddabuddhaboo - I agree with your advice. This morning I woke up and couldn't get rid of the thought that I have to get him out of my house soon! However, I would feel safer about getting him out first and then backing off the relationship. He has shown some signs of being controlling, and my main priority is my safety- just in case he would do something unpredictable. It bothers me that he did not tell me about the loans until now. This whole time, he has been taking us out and paying for expensive dinners at organic restaurants, paid for us to go on a cruise...i even asked him if he could afford to live that way and he assured me he could. meanwhile he is indebted to this woman for 70,000 which is probably why he didnt want to leave the job in case she made him pay it back.. To clarify, he did not ask me to send him job openings; I asked if I could send them to him and he said ok; however, I now decided I'm not going to do that - he can figure that out on his own. Also, my screen name (maverick) is the name of my dog who died last month. Its not intended to reflect some sort of manipulation here, and I'm not sure what a 'troll' is but it must not be a good thing! Sorry if I have offended anyone on the boards. I was just trying to get support to feel less alone. I do appreciate everyone's feedback, and I am taking it all in, including the suggestion to get counseling.
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If he's controlling, then withdraw very carefully. It would be best to make it seem like it's for his own good, or his idea, etc.... Don't let it seem like you're dumping him. Sometimes, you can do all this but it won't matter to him. To him, you rejected him. If he finds another woman, it's okay. If you find a man, it's Not okay - even if you both haven't been "an item" for several months. You read these things all the time in the papers and the news. (and from personal experience - my fave sis' experience with her ex.) I totally agree with you, get him out of your house. And Change All the Locks! If you have an alarm system, change the password.
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ARE YOU REALLY THIS DESPERATE???? NO...for the love of life...for the love of yourself..and your sanity..and protection of your heart...it is great to give love...but you want to be loves....wait...there is an ADAM for every EVE...LET GOD send you the right man...if you do not believe in GOD..believe in yourself..! GIVE UP on this...and MOVE ON....do not get TRAPPED in a LIFE that is so demanding there is not time for LOVE...FUN and hobbies...and fitness...CHECK YOUR HEART...CHECK your HEALTH....how many headaches is all this causing.....GIRL YOU are to beautiful of heart to waste time on all this garbage....!!! YOU KNOW and I KNOW..you will be sorry in the end!
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Get out now. You don't need to get killed over this,.
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OH! PULEEZE! Get rid of this bum!
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Don't.
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