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Hi,

your concerns and gut feelings are already steering you to not take on this exhausting and huge responsibility. You are already working from home, taking care of children, cooking, cleaning a house, laundry, etc, etc, etc. you are not physically or mentally capable of taking care of another person with a full time brain disease, it WILL definitely consume you. Period.

You need to speak up, tell your BIL to take care of his own mother Or Tell him to hire a caregiver at his house, or tell your husband to quit his job and he should do it (sounds silly right?) but why should you do it??? Look into respite care or a long term facility too.

I am my mother’s sole caregiver 24/7. I’m single with no kids and unfortunately unemployed too AND it’s still exhausting for me! She’s up all throughout the night, has to be watched that she doesn’t eat a crayon (Small activity toys), need to keep her busy all day, must assist her with “every single” daily task, bathroom, washing, getting dressed, taking meds/vitamins, etc. etc. etc.

Do not agree to take on this responsibility, you will be arguing even more with your husband then, and you will not have enough energy for your children, and will develop a short fuse with everything.

Good luck, stay safe.
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The answer is no!
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Your brother-in-law wants his mother to live with you, not him? Why does he get a vote and you don't? You will be the caregiver for a woman who does not like you and treats you and your children badly. You need to tell your husband some hard truths, like: a) you will lose your job if she lives with you without someone coming in to take care of her b) the children will be traumatized if she lives with you..., and c) you will leave your husband if you spend 24 hours a day with someone who dislikes you that much. Maybe she can stay with your brother-in-law.
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Short term Respite care while the BIL & Husband find a permanent solution.
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KaleyBug Jun 2020
I think this is a great idea or suggest rehab to start. That gives a few more weeks.
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Yo need to talk to Doctors and Social workers at this facility to make arrangements for her. Or your bro in-law does. They can help assist in This...No, do NOT take this on or you will be stuck with it....
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You are about to be saddled with her care. I would say your home is not an option. As soon as they get her into your house YOU will become a full time care giver. Sure the bro in law wants her to live with you! He can then blame you, make decisions from the side lines without lifting a finger, and get out of any responsibility. Since he made the decision she can live with him.
If she was in the psych ward she could be a danger to you and your family by trying to cook at night while the family is sleeping. Get up and leave the house to go back home, or slap a child because she is upset or frustrated shes not in her own home and cant get there. She was in a psych ward for some reason.

It sounds like your husband and bro in law all ready made the decision, you just arent in on it yet. Dont do it. You cant be up 24/7. And then when you are exhausted, you will be blamed for putting her somewhere. Then it's all your fault for putting her in a home. The onus is off of them then. Seems they have it all figured out. If she comes to stay, then it's your husb responsibility. I'd step back and make him do everything. I would say you have the children to look after. Just because you are female doesnt mean you are a natural caregiver and that another person can decide what you are going to do.
Id refuse and say your home isnt an option. If she is forced on you dont lift a finger. Shes your husband's responsibility. Seems they arent asking you but telling you.
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Rosebush Jun 2020
You are good!!👏👏
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Your own children and family come first. Period. Even if it means a break up of your marriage, do not put your children in that situation.
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Absolutely not. As others have said, July will never come and you’ll be stuck taking on all of the responsibilities. My grandfather has dementia and he has 9 children and 31 grandchildren. Of those, my mom and I are the only ones that help. They are all against going into a nursing home, but there comes a point when you just have to do it. Your kids deserve a happy home and so do you!
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I understand how hard and difficult it is to not “go along” with your BIL and husbands plan. The net of it? You can’t deny the unpleasant experiences you’ve had with your MIL. You know this. Your post is so straightforward asking for advice. Trust your gut. You know what the result will be and can predict what the future will be with your MIL’s “short term living” timeframe will do to you and your family.

Approach this situation in a logical way with your husband. Frankly, you will be doing all of the heavy lifting during the day since he is gone during the day. Do yourself a favor and take 30 minutes of uninterrupted time to write/type out the reasons why the short term living situation will not work for you. List out solutions next to those reasons, as you will be giving your husband insight and providing a solution as to why it’s not going to work for you.

Please be sensitive in your approach and discussion with your husband as I’m sure this experience is very hard for him to process.

Stay strong and don’t question how you feel, friend.
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Pay the price and say NO!
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Don't do it!

If you have any doubts at all then don't even start on the route of having her with you. Your BIL can have her with him if he thinks living with family is best - he should be leaping in to have her if he is going to suggest someone else does. Best to let her go to a facility where you can all visit. Resentment is very hard to live with.
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Please don't do the What If's. Do Not Be Afraid of your Marriage. You two have been together a long time. Both of you should be malliable, bend a bit, when she gets in the home, give her a few weeks. I don't know how old your kids are, but it's hard on everyone. Kids may be a big help. You don't know how they will react. And on the note, check some board and cares near you, adult day schools, and ask social workers, if they have any ideas to keep an older woman busy... You Are Probably A Very Strong Person. And This Is Your Time To Shine. And do put on your calendar a Day For You. That's when you a daycare come in that day to help you get out of the house.Yes do tell the kids. Do not surprise them. Can she walk? can she talk? BREATHE YOU WILL BE OK. Andif things go a little bad, go bury plants in your yard. That is therapeutic.
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MargaretMcKen Jun 2020
Probably better to bury MIL, DH and BIL in the yard. Leave their heads out - if they can BREATHE THEY WILL BE OK!
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God Bless you❤️ Don’t do it...you know your limitations going in please know that you and your children and your marriage needs to take precedence in this situation. Let the brother-in-law step up its HIS Mother. Your husband won’t be providing care you will and I am with others that July will never come. Protect yourself please. I say this from a place of love. I care give for my disabled husband and my developmentally disabled adult stepdaughter and I can tell you it is too much and I have borne the psychological and physical repercussions for it not to mention the moments with my children and family that I will never get back. Good luck to you. You already know what is best for you and your family and No, you are not out of line you are being realistic.
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I agree with those who are saying that July will never come. I also agree that once MIL is in the door, it will be hard to get her out. (I could go on all day about THAT aspect, but I'll keep this short. Just trust those of us who are saying that). When I was young and engaged to be married, someone older than I was took me aside and told me this one thing: "It always falls to the daughter-in-law." Just that one statement. The exact reasons vary and I'm sure it's not literally "always" the DIL, but I sure have seen it play out where DIL is neither asked nor supported but DIL ended up in charge of things she should not be. Please proceed with caution here. Don't let them dump this on you. The points you made in your post are perfectly valid!!
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Just say .........NO!
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How did your weekend go, Brightside?
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CTTN55 Jun 2020
Since we haven't heard back from her, I'm afraid MIL was released to Brightside's home......:-(
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You’re certainly not out of line! You are trying to figure out the changes you are in store for. In my family my husband & kids are always offering advice on what I should do but funny, they don’t offer to help. It’s all on me. Why can’t your brother in law take her? I’m gonna be honest, you’re gonna be stressed to the max. People who are CG will not give you some fantasy answer. Is hiring an aide a possibility? I’d have the brother in law pay for it. Her dr can order Home Health and also contact Hospice. I’m here anytime you want to vent or chat. This group is truly my lifesaver! God bless.
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We just learned the hard way..it is tough to get a bed anywhere during Covid unless you do a direct transfer from a hospital! We wanted to wait and decide after we did many tours. Covid stopped that. So we bit the bullet and allowed mom to go to a memory care unit thinking if we hate it we can bring her home. ..we were scared.. it has worked out for my moms best. She is walking again, eating again and new meds have evened out her anxieties. She is safe and I was burning out from caring for her..Win win
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mally1 Jun 2020
So happy for you that it went like this!
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If Plan A to stop MIL becoming new household member fails...

Plan B: a quick bounce-back out the door at the very first issue: medical or use behaviour issues as reason.

Plan C: Mrs Brightside takes a holiday.
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Brightside,
If there is no other option than to bring MIL in temporarily, would it be possible to have a caregiver come in to help? A professional that comes during the day. Let your hubby deal with her at night!
It's a tough situation, however, there may be ways to ease the burden on you until July comes around.
God bless!!
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golden23 Jun 2020
Respectfully, I don't think "July" will ever come. I think bil is presenting the thin end of the wedge to get his mum cared for by the OP and get her off his hands. No considerate person(s) would suggest this arrangement without consulting the family member most affected by it. There usually are other options.
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Just say no. Stand up to your brother n law and your husband and just say no. Stick to your guns. If your husband doesn’t listen to you have him take FMLA and stay home and take care of his mother. If he won’t take care of his mother, walk out with the kids. Let him know you mean business. He’ll have a lot more on his plate if you take the kids and leave him.
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Get this STOPPED NOW.

Even if Husband is conflicted about it - get the transfer to your home stopped now. Delay it, stall him, buy yourself some time.

Call the facility from 7am (what's the time there now?) & get the discharge to your home stopped.

Don't fall for any 'it's too late, it's all organised, the transport is booked, the bed's been reallocated'. None of that is your concern. Your concern is YOUR home & YOU have NOT given permission for this to happen.

Explain your BIL 'suggested' your home as discharge address but this is NOT OK with you. You will not be providing the care. This is just not possible.

You will not accept MIL to your property & will refuse entry. You do have power here.

If the facility refuses to back down, tell them you will leave the property all day - there will be NO CARE. Do it. Monday morning, take your children & go stay away for the day. Go to your own family, a friend or in a shopping mall, anywhere, for the day.

If your husband DOES accept MIL to your home without you there - let us know.
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"I will be home doing all the care. 

...nobody asked for my input before signing me up".

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Red flags warning here!

Haven't read other replies yet - will do now.
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It's important to understand how one gets a placement in a nursing home. First priority is given to people transferring from the hospital or an unsafe situation. Getting into a nursing home from a "safe placement" - like your house- will be much, much harder.

Your brother in law and your husband cannot "take their time" deciding. That ship has sailed. They need to make it clear to the discharge planner at the hospital that their mother does not have a safe placement available to her. Just keep saying "We cannot possibly care for her at home." Only then will the discharge planner HAVE to find her a safe placement in a facility.

Your brother in law and husband should be on the phone right now with social workers at the facilities they would like discussing how much money she can offer them as a private pay patient, if any. This is not a time to be coy about her finances. She has a better chance of being accepted at a nicer facility if she has some money to offer them upfront,

This website was helpful to us. https://www.medicare.gov/nursinghomecompare/search.html

Best of luck. Do not let her come into your home. That's a mistake.
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You said that you are working from home due to Covid-19. If you have to return to work in June what is this going to do to their plan for you to care for their mother? I wonder if your husband and BIL will decide that it is time for you to quit your job and stay at home and take care of your MIL. If you husband insists that his mother moves in I would insist that he takes time off work, either FMLA or use his vacation days to be there with her. If he continues to work he will come home saying that he is exhausted and you will be responsible for her 24/7. I agree that you should not allow her to move in because if you think it is difficult now wait until she moves into your home and makes your life a living hell. It is difficult caring for a person with Alzheimer /dementia if they were pleasant prior to the disease. I can't imagine caring for someone that did not like me prior to having this disease.
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lkdrymom May 2020
I was going to suggest the same thing. If your husband is so insistent that his mother moves in while they find a place for her then he needs to take a leave from work and care for her. So many here have taken your BIL to task but have seen to missed that your DH is on board with you becoming her caregiver. If he wants her in your home he has to step up and provide all the care.
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How KIND of BIL to suggest YOU take this burden on.

Your comment that your only disagreements with DH have had to do with his mom--that's telling.

My DH also thinks it's a great plan to just move his mother in here and I can care for her.

Uh, I told him, in no uncertain terms, he brings her here and I will leave him. HE can take care of her. She hates me (has verbalized this repeatedly for so many years)--why would he even suggest it?

All 5 of my kids have said I could live with them (dad can't, but I can--that's kind of been hard for him to hear)---and my plan is to live independently until I can't anymore and then move to a care facility or have FT caregivers live in our basement apartment.

The lack of planning is how we got to this point where MIL is half-demented and mean and wants to live alone, but requires a LOT of propping up.

DO NOT LET MIL MOVE IN. It will be a nightmare from day one.

Just a thought: IS BIL suggesting this awesome move b/c he wants to see all her money safe for inheritance? My BIL was like that with FIL. Just a thought, and maybe not off course.

Be tough and loving. You aren't completely stepping away from MIL's care, just her care in YOUR HOME.
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I agree with the other posters. I think it takes a lot of gall for your BIL to "suggest" his mother move in with you and you assume her care. Why isn't HE stepping up and inviting her in? Could it be because he's married and his wife has absolutely refused? And I also believe once she's in your house, she will never leave. And then your house will be transformed into HER house.
You are not out of line. I think it was very disrespectful of your husband to even discuss this with his brother before he spoke to you, especially given the dynamic between you and his mom!
You have gotten a lot of good advice on how to approach your husband with this. Whether you use that advice, or come up with an approach on your own, you need to have that discussion right away, before your MIL is on the verge of discharge and she ends up with you because "there's no other place she could go".
Good luck!
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Ohe thing I learned from a kind and compassionate discharge planner many years ago..." she's in a bed".

"What?"

"Bed to bed transfers are priority. Hospital to rehab, rehab to SNF...If you discharge a patient from a bed to home, you go to the end of the waiting list".

It sounds as though BIL is being sold a bill of goods by discharge. Please help him and your DH to say "no, we cannot possibly take her home. No, sorry. NO we really can't do that"
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FloridaDD May 2020
Agree with Barb.  I would be pro-active and call the hospital and say you are not willing to care for her, and there is no other adult at home.
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"My bro in law wants her to live with us until we find permanent care, but he doesn’t want to rush his decision. He’s hoping to figure it out by July"

Forget about July. It will NEVER hapen. If brother in law doesn't want to rush his decision, that means once he dumps his mom at your house, he will not even try to make other arrangements for her. Why should he? His life isn't in any way affected. He will use the COVID19 as a reason to not move her anywhere else. If his mom can stay at your home for 1-2 months, then why not 3-4 months, then why not 5-6 months, then why move at all, it's working fine for HIM.

One more thing, If you think it's hard to say no to her moving in now, it will be 10 times harder to move her out later. Imagine the guilt your husband will have thinking he has to kick his own mother out of his own home.

DO NOT let her move in, even temporarily, because once she's in, she'll very very likely never move out. I have read many times on this forum about MIL/FIL moves in and takes over the house and treats their child's spouse (usually the wife) as their personal assistant. At that point, you'll think it's easier for YOU to move out.

DON'T agree to let her in. PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN. This is the proverbial field to die on.

If your husband still insists on moving his mom in, tell him you will pack up the kids and go on a vacation for a month. Let him take care of his own mom. If he balks that he has to work, tell him your work at home is also work, you can't take on more responsibility, especially taking care of someone you detest.
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I agree that bil has absolutely no right to assign this task to you and dh has every responsibility to consult you and with you make the best decision for you and the children. Bil has the responsibility to find a temp placement for his mother.

You are not out of line. Give your input - asked for or not - and make it clear that you are not doing this. Please work on a back up plan for yourself and the kids. I know that the covid situation makes this much more difficult.

I agree about being firm and unemotional. Don't fall for the FOG - (fear, obligation and guilt). Let us know how things work out. (((((Hugs))))) and prayers.
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