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My dad passed two weeks ago leaving behind my mean, abusive and manipulative mom. As I am the closest living sibling, everyone including her, assumes I will be the caregiver.


I tried speaking with them years ago about scams. They thought they knew better, but my dad ended up giving away thousands of dollars to a scammer. My mom was mean and never let him forget about it and even brought it up after his passing.


Around the time my dad was scammed, I took the keys to his car. He was in no state to drive. My mom called and left a message threatening to call the police on me if I didn’t return the keys. That was 2 years ago. That’s when I went low contact with them.


Fast forward to my dad’s death earlier this month. I have spent countless hours with my mom helping her plan for the funeral and transfer the funds needed to pay for it. I’ve taken her grocery shopping and clothes shopping and just let her hang out with me for an afternoon. I did this every day for a week only to have to deal with her daily tantrums that consist of her trying to get out of my moving car, blocking me from leaving by standing in the middle of the road, breaking objects, physically hurting my sibling, and causing self-harm by hitting herself repeatedly in the head with her cane. On top of all this, she had the nerve to tell me she only likes my dad and one of my siblings. When I asked her about myself and my other sibling, she doubled down and said she only likes Dad and one sibling because they do whatever she asks.


I do not have the time or energy to take care of someone who takes me for granted and who doesn’t even like me, and I refuse to put myself in harm’s way. I don’t want to see her or talk to her because she will try to guilt me into staying.


I blocked her calls, but can see that she has left 4 vm’s today. Am I doing the right thing?


I’m sorry if this is lengthy and all over the place. Please let me know if I need to clarify anything.

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I would suggest contacting APS to report a vulnerable senior and keep her number blocked.

You matter too and she has shown you who she is, believe her and leave her to it.
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GoingNC Apr 27, 2025
Thank you for your advice. I contacted the Area Agency on Aging last week and gave them the good sibling’s number. I also reached out to both siblings this afternoon and told them to contact APS for a vulnerable adult. I made it clear to them that I would not be mom’s caregiver.
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Yes you are doing the right thing. No good will come to you by being a part of her life. She told you she only liked the one sibling so if she does contact you, tell her she needs to call them.
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GoingNC Apr 27, 2025
The “good” sibling actually asked me to be at my mom’s house today so that my mom doesn’t throw a tantrum when she leaves to go home several states away. I’ve already been blocked for leaving once. My other sibling was blocked physically and has a large bruise on her arm as proof. I stuck to my guns and said “No!”
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I do not believe in accidental blood connection ruling my lifelong relationships.
Your Mother was abusive and this led you your having no relationship with her. I would maintain that.
If there are others who wish to participate in your mother's care, let them and stay out of it.
If your mother contacts you tell her you will not be able to help her.
Provide her with the phone number for Adult Protective Services in your area.

That would be my advice, but you are an adult and can be the only one to take all facts into consideration in your own case and decide for your life moving forward what your best actions will or won't be.
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You absolutely did the right thing. Block her completely and walk away completely. If anyone questions you, calmly say that she has said in both words and actions she doesn’t like you so you are abiding by that. The real reason, of course, is that she is abusive and ungrateful and you deserve to spend your time and life with people who respect you.
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Also, if your siblings try to guilt trip you, tell them they are free to make their own decisions regarding her. So if she’s manipulating them, they are free to also walk away. If they are expecting you to do it, they are entitled to do as much or as little as they want, but they’re not entitled to make demands on you regarding her.
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"I do not have the time or energy to take care of someone who takes me for granted and who doesn't even like me"....Then DON'T!!!
Your mom is not your problem nor is she your responsibility, so thankfully NO obligation to be her caregiver. Aren't you glad for that?
She'll figure things out someway somehow. You just get on with living and enjoying your life without this toxic woman in your life.
I am sorry that you lost the only decent parent in your life.
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Yes, you are doing the right thing and no, you are not obligated to be your mom's caregiver.

As others have said, leave her to figure her life out and look after your own life. Some of us are born into very dysfunctional families and, therefore, need to set strong boundaries with family members.

Your mom is abusive and obviously has mental health issues. Not your fault - you didn't make them and you can't fix them. Keep taking care of you.

Glad that you have cut contact. Sorry for the loss of your dad.
"I do not have the time or energy... and I refuse to put myself in harm’s way."

That's awesome. Keep your boundaries in place and
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You’re getting good advice here, but I want to add that if your mother makes any aggressive moves toward you or harms you in any way, call 911 and let them deal with here.

i hope you’re never in her presence again! But just in case, keep it in mind.
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GoingNC Apr 27, 2025
I will never be in her presence again unless it is somewhere public and crowded. I get so much anxiety thinking about being in her house or her being in my car. It’s hard to believe an 85 year old frail woman can make me feel so vulnerable.
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There is excellent advice given to you already . Listen to it .
I took care of my lifelong narcissistic abusive mother for over a decade out of FOG….Fear , Obligation , Guilt , and manipulation . Big mistake .
I wish I had this advice 15 years ago .
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golden23 Apr 27, 2025
(((((Hugs))))), Way
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GoingNC, this forum is all too often full of stories of adult children being treated horribly by an entitled or unhinged or mentally ill elderly parent. They come here in desperation, exhausted and burned out. Then, unfortunately, they continue in the same circumstances, out of misplaced guilt or obligation, not being able to advocate for their own wellbeing. Not judging any of them as I haven’t walked in their shoes, but it’s so very sad to encounter repeatedly. It’s great to read about you knowing your wise boundaries, advocating for yourself, and removing yourself from an impossible situation. I’m sorry you don’t have the mother you deserve and for your pain in this. Great job knowing your limits and sticking with it. I hope you have a positive life with people who are kind and loving. Wishing you healing and peace
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GoingNC Apr 28, 2025
I honestly thought mine was a unique situation. It’s sad that parents do this to their children when we are here to help. I’ve made a promise to myself and my children that I will not be like my mom.
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'Obligated' to whom?

Your Dad? Other family?
Religion/faith?
Culture/custom?
Strangers?
Your own belief system/values?

Maybe finding where the root of the obligation feeling is from may help you?

Help locate it & really look at it.

I had an aquaintance tell me I HAD to take my Mother into my own home. HAD to provide her a roof, meals & provide the hands-on care with my own hands.
Why I asked..
Because.. my aquaintance spilled out a list of reasons. These were rooted in her culture, her religion, her financial situation. All of which had ZERO to do with MY life.

I thanked her for her honesty.
Then filed them under *not relevant*. It clarified that I what I decided was the right decision for MY situation.
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GoingNC Apr 28, 2025
My siblings think I’m obligated to be my mom’s caregiver based on my proximity to her. They both live several states away, while I am minutes away. I’ve considered moving several states away to get out of this so-called obligation. I decided that I’m not going through that expense. Mom is their problem now.
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No, you are not obligated to be your mother's caregiver.

If your mother has given you POA over her legal/financial/health matters, you can resign from this.

From what you described, I agree with your decision to go No Contact.

Be prepared for the inevitable "hoovering" when your mom and/or siblings start playing nice in an effort to suck you back in so they can keep using you. Don't fall for it - stay strong!
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GoingNC Apr 28, 2025
This is the one time I am glad to not have a POA. My siblings and I tried multiple times to get one, but my parents wouldn’t allow it.
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I’m proud of you for sticking to your guns! If you give her an inch, she will take miles!

She just wants attention when she does things like hitting herself. It’s a means of tantrum.
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If you still have those car keys, I would deliver them to the local police with a note of the car’s license plate number, and location, and tell them in your opinion that the owner is not safe to drive.

If it wouldn’t cause you too much difficulty with linked accounts and such, go a step beyond blocking calls and change your phone number. The violence you discuss is an absolute deal-breaker. Don’t put yourself in peril personally nor legally.
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GoingNC Apr 28, 2025
My mom can’t drive. She wouldn’t even know how to start the car let alone back it out of the garage. She has also lost the key countless times in the past two weeks. And I disconnected the battery. She really is lost without my dad. He did everything for her.
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I grew up with a crazy alcoholic mom who would stabilize at times. There were mental/emotional issues going on as well. Dad did his own thing and escaped through work and hobbies.

What we are dealing with here is trauma topped with fog (fear, obligation and guilt).

Watching someone whacking themselves in the head is just insane. Did she always self-abuse to get a reaction out of you? The psychology behind this stunt is that I will hurt myself to make you suffer. This causes trauma and anxiety in children and adults. Stop falling for it. Next time she pulls a stunt like that just leave. Don't call 911 in front of her because she will flip the script and have you arrested. Call APS and report her as mentally ill and violent towards herself and others. You can make an anonymous call.

Many of us suffer from C-PTSD growing up with these people. We probably had good times with them at times that was probably short lived. I always had the feeling of waiting for the other shoe to drop because I knew even as a kid these times were short lived.

Go full no contact. She is beyond your help.
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waytomisery Apr 28, 2025
My mother had somewhat stable times on and off as well throughout her life . That’s what kept me from walking away .
But you correct in always waiting for the other shoe to drop .

My mother also threatened to jump out the second story window or take a handful of pills and make me beg her not to , when I was a kid . Then made me promise not to tell Dad .
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www.outofthefog.net is a terrific website for understanding how your mother exerts control over you.

Please call Adult Protective Services in her community and report that she is a vulnerable adult in need of care.
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To your move - Hooray for you!!!
If somehow you are ever alone with her again, record.
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"My siblings think I’m obligated to be my mom’s caregiver based on my proximity to her."

Well whoop de do for them. Really, what they "think" are your obligations don't amount to a hill of beans.

It's hard enough to take care of an elderly parent who is cooperative and pleasant. Your mom? No way.

"Hey, sibs, if you're so all-fired up about mom's care, how about we take turns? You start. I'll drop her off this weekend and pick her up in the summer sometime." See how well that idea goes over.
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Isthisrealyreal Apr 28, 2025
I would tell my sibs that thinking is obviously above their pay grade!
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You are absolutely doing the right thing. The behaviors you've said your mother does sounds like she probably has dementia, mental illness or both. Calling APS and referring them to the "good siblings" was absolutely the right thing to do. You can block her from leaving voicemails on your phone too. She should probably be in memory care now or some form of assisted living.

I totally understand where you're coming from because I have a mother very similar to yours. At best throughout my life our relationship was strained. For the most part my mother has aways despised me. I was her caregiver for a while and it almost killed me. Then one day I put myself first and walked away. That's what you need to do.

Today, I took off to take her to a doctor's appointment because her aide called out. I figured that would be fine because she knows if she starts with me, I walk away. I end a phone call. She will not see or hear from me for a long time.

She used me taking her to the doctor's appointment as an opportunity to instigate a fight. I got her into the doctor's office then explained to them that I would be leaving and when her appointment was finished to call and I'd send an Uber for her because I will not tolerate one moment of verbal abuse or instigating from her. She thought instigating today was worth the risk of me leaving her at her doctor's office. She's terrified of ubers and left me a voice mail crying and begging me to come and pick her up. I refused and explained to the medical assistant who called me, what my reaction always is if she starts with me. She totally understood. My mother did not get the pity from the staff she was counting on from her performance today and was pretty surprised.

She does not try to get physical with me like your mother does though. The last time she tried that I was a teenager. She learned the hard way and never tried again. As it stands now it is unlikely that I will see or speak to her for some time.

You DO NOT have to tolerate being abused by anyone. No one does. It doesn't matter who your abuser is or what they or anyone else expects from you.

No guilt and no regrets for walking away from that mess. You did the right thing and good for you.
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Goingnc, I want to tell you that I am sorry for your loss.

May The Lord give you strength, guidance and comfort during this difficult time. Losing dad and having family try to dump mom on you is a difficult thing, you got this!

Remain strong and don't let anyone, mom or siblings bully you into taking over for your dad.
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So sorry you are having to deal with this. Mom is not only a difficult, manipulative person... but appears to have mental health issues. Next time she throws a tantrum, call the police. Ask them to involuntarily admit her for threatening to harm you and/or herself. She will then be evaluated by a medical doctor and a psychiatrist. Ask for case management to help you place her appropriately - not with you,
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AnnaKat May 1, 2025
I agree with Taarna. The best thing that happened to my husband was a stay in a psychiatric hospital (transferred from an emergency room where the police brought him). There he was prescribed antipsychotics and antidepressants. He still has dementia, of course, but he is no longer hallucinating and aggressive. He is much happier and easier to care for. Good luck, GoingNC. I hope you can get help for your Mom too, be sure to take care of yourself as well.
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Your feelings are justified. What do your other siblings want to do? Come clean with them and tell them that your help is not appreciated or wanted by your Mom.

Good luck! This is a hard situation.
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peanut56 May 2, 2025
I agree. Let the sibs deal with the decision making and care now since the mom doesn't want help from the person helping her!
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I am sorry for your loss and turmoil. Your mom is dealing with the loss of her husband and she's angry and sad as well. Not sure of her age? Does she have Dementia? If she ends up in the hospital, refuse the discharge. Get the ball rolling. Your mom is not cooperative. The responsibility should not all be on you to take care of your mom. Your siblings need to be involved.
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No you are not obligated to be her caretaker. Let the others know that and tell them about her abuse. She may have dementia kicking in, and if so, she can be put on meds to calm her down.
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No.

She is responsible for own life / needs.
Tell her to get an attorney.
If necessary, she can be-come a ward of the state to handle her affairs as needed.

Only you can determine if you are 'doing the right thing.' Listen to your gut. Do not be guilt tripped into doing anything you REALLY do not want to do. It is further drain you in every way.

If my mom as you describe her, I'd run as fast as I could the other way.
She won't change. It is up to you. You know what you're in for if you decide to take on this responsibility.

Gena / Touch Matters
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Beatty May 2, 2025
This.
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Send a letter to all of her next of kin that you are not healthy enough to be her caregiver, POA, or to help in any way. Say if you do not hear from of them within the week..give a specific date, you will turn her care over to the state. Make the letter one that requires a signature from receiver. Then do it and take care of yourself.
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You are not obligated to remain in an abusive relationship with anyone, ever. Even with your own mother.

Part of taking care of yourself can be to determine what she needs to be safe, and then farm that out to an agency or a caretaker.

You talk to them, and stay away from her.

You will have peace of mind that you are caring for her in the best way you can, given the circumstances. It will still take a LOT of your time to manage it, so it’s not like you’ll be off the hook, but hopefully you’ll be out of the line of fire.
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Will the adult child that she “likes” take her? That’s what I would want for you. Seems like you’ve been the point person for your parents for a long time. Can you pass the baton? Even if she becomes a ward of the state, it would be better for you if she was nearer to another sibling, and father away from you.
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I think you found it - the source of your feelings of obligation.

"My siblings think I’m obligated to be my mom’s caregiver based on my proximity to her. They both live several states away, while I am minutes away."

Can I pull that apart a bit more?

There are TWO sides;
1. What care does Mom need?
2. What are her family members willing to do/give?

What is REASONABLE?

Obviously your siblings don't think it reasonable to uproot their lives, move closer, provide the care themselves. Yet they find it acceptable for you to uproot your life.

It would be OK to get angry about that. Stand up for yourself!

I don't care if you live close or not. If you next door or have moved to Iceland. You are not Cinderella. You are free to make your own decisions & not be enslaved to your siblings.

Whattda say?
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No. You are not obligated to remain in an abusive relationship. Get away. She had her life - you get to have yours.
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Isabelsdaughter May 2, 2025
I totally agree.
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