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I am living with my grandmother and grandfather. My grandmother is experiencing some memory issues and possibly some early onset dementia. My other family is trying to control what she does and when and I think they have decent intentions (most of them anyway). But they aren’t going about it the right way. She wants to drive and they say she can’t and just say it and I suggested having the doctor assess her and see what he says and that resulted in my aunt blocking my number and blocking me on Facebook. My gram said she wanted friends and I suggested going to activities with a local agency that has them for seniors and can also provide transportation if needed. It goes through the insurance. My family seems to be against it. My pap tells my gram that if she does that that he is going to kick her and me out of the house. My gram is constantly anxious and worked up about these things and they argue constantly. Her kids are trying to help but I’m finding that they tend to side with my grandfather. Especially with my living here. And the only logical answer to why they have such an issue with me living here is that they want to throw her in a nursing home and be done with it and I am in their way of doing that. My goal is to get her a care taker if she needs, get her some independence back, and help her to be involved in different activities as well as letting her go somewhere if she can’t drive but wants to get out. Please help. Any advice is welcomed and anything tips and tricks are too. Am I in the wrong for wanting to help her like how I want to?

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I doubt 'any advice is welcomed' because when you say 'they want to throw her in a nursing home', that sort of talk is 'fighting words' in my world. Placing an elder with dementia in managed care is not 'throwing' them anywhere, but placing them where they can get proper care and socialization that is NOT being offered at home.

Your goals differ from the rest of your family member's goals, obviously. You're all on different wavelengths and that's going to cause lots of chaos for all concerned. Any elder with dementia should NOT be driving, period, regardless of anyone's 'opinion' on the matter, which should not be open for discussion. Someone has to have the final say on your grandmother's care, and the old saying, "Too many cooks spoil the broth" is apropos on this situation, don't you think?

A family meeting should be called where decisions are made, once and for all, as to the care and management of grandma, who gets POA to make the decisions on her behalf, and then everyone else has to bow out.

Wishing you good luck as you agree to let the chips fall where they may in this matter.
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Granddaughter26 Sep 2022
she doesn’t have an official diagnosis. And I never stated I want her to drive but I do believe getting them doctors opinion on this will help her to accept her not being able to drive anymore. That’s my goal with that is giving her a better understanding that is from an outside source.
i agree a family meeting would be best but they don’t seem to be open to that.
and she doesn’t have an power of attorney right now.
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Grandpa is an abuser. His yelling is emotional abuse and you can see that it’s hurting your grandmother. It needs to stop. You’re way in over your head here and need outside help in the form of an agency or eldercare services. Once you engage them, they will be able to move forward to help your grandma. But you should accept that she isn’t as she was, she won’t get better, and all you can do is find someone from outside this mess to put a stop to it, FYI, a care facility would be a good place for grandma at this point. She would have the care she needs that you and apparently the rest of her family are unable to provide.
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Granddaughter26 Sep 2022
Thank you for seeing what I’m seeing and yes I am over my head here. I do have background in the helping field and I’m domestic violence but no I’m not an agency and I am family. All I want is what is best for my gram. And I’ll say that all the yelling and fighting and crying and stress is not what is best for her. Even if it is “interfering” as some have suggested. My gram asks me for help which is why I’m helping. But thank you for trying to understand. I wish you well.
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While your intentions are good. Your grandfather legally is the one that makes decisions for your grandma. (Unless someone else has been appointed POA.)
If you want to help grandma, help grandpa.
Maybe get grandpa to go to the Senior center with grandma so they can bot have a bit of a break. Most areas have Senior Centers that residents can go for free while some programs may require a fee many do not. While there it is possible that someone may talk to grandpa about getting grandma involved in a Day Program.
Many Spouses are reluctant to allow others to help because they think they should be able to do it all themselves. And it is VERY difficult for some people to ask for help and even harder to get them to accept help.
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Granddaughter26 Sep 2022
He is not willing to help her and often time yells at her and tells her that she can’t do something and I am usually left to help her calm down and stop crying. It’s like they want her to sit at home and do nothing and he is outside with his friends all the time. And he doesn’t want to be inside with her. He has a garage that he hangs out in. And he comes and goes sometimes and leaves her in the house alone. And she sits inside and stresses out about it over and over like a broken record.
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Where are your own parents in this? Who are your ‘other family’ members? How are you able to make the decision to live there, if everyone else involved opposes it?

Strong motivations often involve either money or religion – or both. Would it help you to get a counseling session yourself, to get a clearer understanding of where you all stand?
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Granddaughter26 Sep 2022
My parents are divorced but her son is my dad and he is involved in this. The other family I speak of is my uncle and his wife.
i live here because my pap and gram agreed to let me move back home. That is why I’m here. And now my gram begs me not to leave and also I am looking for a job and apply to several daily.
i have a therapist that I see weekly.
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"I am living with my grandmother and grandfather. My grandmother is experiencing some memory issues and possibly some early onset dementia."

Who made the dementia diagnosis? Do you accompany her to doc appointments? Who does?

"My other family is trying to control what she does and when and I think they have decent intentions (most of them anyway). But they aren’t going about it the right way."

Why do you think your way is the right way? Do you have medical/professional/ caregiving experience?


"She wants to drive and they say she can’t and just say it and I suggested having the doctor assess her and see what he says and that resulted in my aunt blocking my number and blocking me on Facebook. "

Does your Aunt live in the home? Is she grandma's child?

"My gram said she wanted friends and I suggested going to activities with a local agency that has them for seniors and can also provide transportation if needed. It goes through the insurance. My family seems to be against it. My pap tells my gram that if she does that that he is going to kick her and me out of the house. "

Does your grandfather also have mental health/cognitive challenges?


"My gram is constantly anxious and worked up about these things and they argue constantly. "

Has she been seen by a geriatric psychiatrist?


"Her kids are trying to help but I’m finding that they tend to side with my grandfather. Especially with my living here. And the only logical answer to why they have such an issue with me living here is that they want to throw her in a nursing home and be done with it and I am in their way of doing that".

That is quite a leap of logic. Why are you living there? How does that prevent NH or Memory Care admission?


"My goal is to get her a care taker if she needs, get her some independence back, and help her to be involved in different activities."

How will the caretaker be paid? What kind of activities and socialization do you envision can happen in her home?

Who has Power of attorney?
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Granddaughter26 Sep 2022
She doesn’t have one but the family keeps throwing it in her face. I have but not it primarily goes to my aunt.
I have a degree in human services and a minor in criminal justice. So yeah I do have a lot of experience in the helping field. I’m not saying my view is the best but I don’t think making her feel shame and guilt is the right way from the helping side of things. While I was never a caregiver, I do have experience helping people and helping them reach their own goals.

No my aunt is not her child. It’s her sons wife. And no she does not live in the home.

I’m sure he does but he won’t admit it but he’s I’ve seen some declines in him as well.

No, not to my knowledge but then again the rest of the family does not seem like they want to involve me.

I’m living here because when I was 18 I moved out of my dads house since there was emotional abuse. And my gram and pap both agreed to let me live with them. Then I had my own apartment but moved back home to save money because rent was wasting it. Again, they both agreed. And now I’m still here because I recently lost my job and am looking for others. I apply to several every day. I don’t know why they are seeing me here as an obstacle other than what I mentioned.

i have not looked into the cost of a care taker yet but there is a local agency that she could go to for activities throughout the day and they do provide transportation and most of it if not all runs through her insurance. I plan to stop to talk to them in person this week.
She does not have a power of attorney at the moment but she did ask me to be it. However, as you can imagine I don’t see that going well with others in the family.
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You are living with your Father.
Your Grandmother is living with your Father.
That means that in some ways you are each/both dependent on your father. If you wish to be independent you should move out.
HOWEVER, if you are encouraging your Grandmother to move and be independent and do as YOU suggest or as SHE wishes, are you willing to support her in her already mental deteriorating state?????
You are young. You need to be starting on your own life, your own job, your own independence, your own place to live, your own friends. That you love and wish to support your Gram is absolutely admirable, and all too rare in this day and age,.
BUT, you need to know that by causing dissension in the household you are endangering your Gram's place to live. And eventually your Gram will likely NEED placement and the loving visits of all.
As to driving, most seniors, my dearly loved and departed bro included, the way they accept that they should no longer be driving is to have a serious injury. Your Gram, if she is having signs of early dementia, likely should NOT be driving. Her response times would be critical. If she DOES intend to drive she should--you are correct--get a full testing workup and then go to the driving authorities for testing there of her vision and of her driving by a driver's test.
Best out to you. You are very loving, but it is time for you to move on to your own independence. Your gram has lived her life and this is the time for you to live yours. That would be my advice, but you must do things as you see best fit for you in your own life.
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PeggySue2020 Sep 2022
Wait Alva, op said she was living with the grandfather, not her dad
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To clarify here, I’m 27 and have a degree in human services and a minor in criminal justice since a lot of people are assuming I’m very young and have no background in helping. And, I’m not trying to make decisions alone. What I want to do is get services involved that will help her. And I’m not saying my gram should drive. But I am saying I think a doctors diagnosis will help her accept that she can no longer drive. Instead of it coming from the opinions of family. And I even suggested a transport service if we should need to look into it.
lastly I didn’t come here for others to make me feel bad for trying to help but it seems this may be a more judgey environment than what I was expecting. This was my first and only post. Blessed be all.
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MargaretMcKen Sep 2022
I'm sorry if my own post felt 'judgey'. It was difficult to guess all the information you have now given, and it wasn't all that obvious. You (or perhaps the admin people) asked 'Am I in the wrong'. We do have quite young posters who are taking on more than they have the power or strength to deal with, which is why you were questioned a bit too much.

Please don't write off this forum. Your position is really quite difficult, and I am sure that everyone who posted, wishes you all the best in helping your grandmother. Best wishes, Margaret
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