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That's very sad about BF's family history & siblings behaviour.

He has chosen to care for his folks, now full-time for his Mother. Whether this helps him, I don't know... But that is what he has chosen to do.

Farmerlee, you have the right to decide what you do too. What contact, if any, you have with his Mother.

So make your decision & make it clearly known to your BF. Either continue to allow the Mother to come, but discuss how it would work better, who cleans up etc.

Or if you decide she cannot come at all, tell him. He must then come alone. Finding other care arrangements for his Mother is his responsibility. He either will or won't - this is up to him.

Best of luck going forward with better boundaries.
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Some of the bathroom behaviors you describe from her sound like someone who grew up without running water or indoor plumbing in the house. My mother grew up in a house with no bathroom, too, or running water so those things from youth are tend to stick with older people. Putting toilet paper in the trash usually comes from having a limited septic system that can’t handle toilet paper. Not flushing every time because water can’t be wasted, or the septic tank fills up too quickly. All of that sounds very familiar to me, though my parents and grandparents were closer to the Canadian border than the Mexican border! Some things are the same everywhere.

I mention this because, if I am right about the way she grew up, you are never going to get her to change now at her advanced age. It doesn’t make for pleasant visits, though, as you say. Is there any sort of compromise, rather than them both staying in your apartment? You go down there and visit in a hotel? I certainly wouldn’t want the mess you describe in my home.
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MargaretMcKen May 2021
I live with a septic tank, and they can all handle toilet paper (though not flushable wipes etc). Size is an issue. We replaced our own septic tank of 600litres with the minimum size for new one of 3000litres. The use of water has increased that much! I found it very easy to adjust to a more appropriate size, and never 'saved' used toilet paper. If the lady can't wipe her own bottom, something is badly wrong, and it isn't her past upbringing.
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My face-value opinion to your posted question is no, you're not a jerk -- based on what you've described about her hygiene issues. I breezed through the many responses from others and the extra info you provided. I read that his family tried to gain guardianship of her at one point for (apparently) nefarious reasons, and that was successfully defeated. So, she obviously doesn't have a PoA assigned. Is there any reason your BF won't allow the county to have guardianship of her so it can move her into a facility and she can be cared for and he can have his life back and you can have each other back? Many facilities are decent and so is the staff. I'm not sure what is being gained on her behalf by cloistering her with him. Your BF seems to be allowing her to live in a disgusting condition whereas a facility would deal with it. It makes no sense because she's not benefiting from him "caring" for her. BF seems to be benefitting by thinking he's a hero or martyr or something. It's incomprehensible.
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NeedHelpWithMom May 2021
Isn’t it a shame that cultural differences make these situations tougher than they have to be? The OP says that they are Hispanic.

You are right. Difficult situations require a professional staff to handle the difficult tasks. No matter how much children or spouses wish to help in these areas, her needs would be better met with a staff. It’s sad. His heart may be in the right place for his mom.

The OP is somewhat understanding due to his cultural background but in reality, everyone is being shortchanged, especially the mom who obviously needs more care than he can provide. Not to mention how family members become burned out.

How hard is it to educate people who are in these situations to surrender control?

The OP is in love with this man and has a long standing relationship with him. It’s a complicated mess.
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No, you are NOT a jerk. You are putting up healthy boundaries which is hard to do but really necessary. You know what you can and cannot handle- never apologize for knowing and enforcing your limits!

Stay strong! You got this.
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This is a new post about sanitary systems, rather than continue a long set of comments. It’s about poor MIL’s hygiene habits, and how ‘difficult’ it is for her to change her habits. It sort of got my goat.

I live in the driest state in the driest continent. I’ve lived with mains sewerage, a long-drop dunny (nice tight lid and sprinkle lime after using), an inadequate septic tank, and two very adequate septic systems with regulation soakage trenches. Alice Springs is sand and rock, classified as a desert although it has drenching summer rain occasionally. I have no idea why anyone would save used toilet paper because they lived in a desert. Is the poster serious in saying they do that in California? The mind boggles. We have not used mains water for over 20 years now, relying on rainwater catchment. No we don’t waste water, and virtually everyone here follows the mantra ‘If it’s yellow, let it mellow; If it’s brown, flush it down’ - at least at home.

MIL has lived for years on the fringes of a modern country. Unless she has never had TV, she knows quite well what hygiene is normal. Her ‘inability’ to change just has to be ‘unwillingness’, not inability. ‘If I ruled the world! I do what I want, and you damn well put up with it’. Not on my turf, you don’t!
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BurntCaregiver May 2021
No one in their right mind saves used toilet paper no matter where they live.
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CaregiverL,

You made an excellent point about Farmerlee74's boyfriend expecting her to become his mom's 24/7 caregiver.
Just not yet. From how Farmerlee74 describes her situation it sounds to me like she's a caregiver-in-waiting. That the boyfriend is grooming her to take over the caregiver role for his mother at some point.
If the mom gets SS and has a government pension coming in from her late husband, she can go into a care facility. True, they will take that money and if it doesn't cover her cost the facility will get her on Medicaid to pay the rest.
Really it sounds like the son doesn't want a dime spent on caregiving services for his mother, and is playing a waiting game.
Waiting for Farmerlee74 to take over the caregiving or waiting for the mother to die.
That guy (the boyfriend) needs to take back his own life and put his mother in a care facility.
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Farmerlee74 May 2021
That is not the case at all. Why would he be grooming me to be the caregiver?They live four hours away and I have a job. He is the caregiver, not me, nor would I ever be! Why you'd think this is beyond me.
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Are you sure you have a solid relationship with your boyfriend? Cf
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Farmerlee, has BF & Mother left your home yet?

Have you decided what you want regarding next visit?

Whether him + her back (with new rules), just him (her never) or neither at all?
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Farmerlee74 May 2021
They're leaving on Monday. I wish she was just leaving. I love having him home again, but not ever with her. Him & I have spoken at length and he will not be bringing her again.
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Dear Farmerlee, this post is in case you come back one more time. My guess is that it will make you laugh, but perhaps do a double check. Your story of BF is that he moved down to the border to help mother 6 years ago, and comes up to see you one week in four, when the carer is allowed to come over the border. It's a dead fit for a very different scenario. This is that your BF has a second family down where he is, and is running a drug business that relies on ‘carer’ coming over the border. He then moves up for a week of pampering where you live, and for passing the drugs on as well.

I know you won’t believe it, but con men are always convincing and second families are not unknown. Things that don't seem to make sense can often have a quite logical explanation that wasn't obvious. At least go down unannounced sometime, stay somewhere close and ask around. Make a check, at least about the second family. For your sake.
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Stacy0122 May 2021
Margaret, this is so racist and inappropriate. Implying she is the secunda is so wrong on so many levels. She came looking for help and the imaginations of some people do not provide help.
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II agree. Why isn't the bf in the bathroom with her to clean her up and clean up the bathroom after? You said he acted surprised when he saw br mess.. why? If she is as disabled as you say, the bathroom is the most dangerous place to leave her alone even for a minute. If she is not cleaning herself up after, does that mean she goes back to bed with soiled clothes and skin? And poop on door knobs and light switchers and walls and faucets? How is he helping her if he is not keeping her and her surroundings free of feces, bacteria and germs? With my mom I had to follow her out of the bathroom, with a washcloth, disinfecting everything behind her. I couldn't even cook without knowing things were disinfected. It was gross. Even brown wallprints and glass had to be cleaned. Did bf clean all this? Otherwise I do not see how you could sleep or eat in your home without getting sick. I would even make bf wash his clothes before coming in my house. Is br habits the only problem? You have more then enough to deal with
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