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The use of mute for moot has been making me nuts recently....

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I'm late to it, but I ADORE Barb's doggy-dog world! The only thing is - what would be so scary or hostile about that? I really think we might be onto something if we could make the world a bit more doggy-dog.

Another one I had to be corrected on: hoist with one's own petard. Because of "hoist"- I don't know about anyone else - I always had a vague mental image of a person dangling around by the seat of their pants having caught them on a blade or hook of some sort. Far from it: a petard is a type of grenade, going back to the earliest use of gunpowder in the West, and hoist means disembowelled, essentially - blown to pieces.
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Bring vs. the pronunciation "brin", or at least it sounds that way.

My friend is of Viking decent. Or is it descent? Or desent? Lol.
Not even the grammar app will say. I don't know!
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Thanks for clearing that up Send!
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My apologies to Gershun.
That did not come out right.
Trying to say, it is not her,
but others losing their heads.


I shoulda been mute.
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Barb, lately I hear balmore the most! Or Balmar.. LOL They sort of skip the middle ! I was born but not raised there.. my Mom worked at the hospital I now work at and dad worked at Bethlehem steel as an engineer until he went back to school to become a teacher . I was raised In PA, so I am sure I have an accent to them! Lancaster to be exact,, so is it AAmish or Amish? LOL But on the sort of neat side.. I often get elderly Pts who also worked at Beth Steel,, so they love to talk about it.
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Pam; Bal ti more or Bal tee more?

It's where my ex's mom was from.

A couple of years after my ex's grandma (who was from Balteemore) died, she made a recording (sort of an audio letter to her daughter). I knew this woman for a couple of years before I married ex.

One day, I mentioned something about the fact that his grandma had had a drawl. He hotly denied that fact, as did his mom.

FIL found the tape and we played it for them. Glory be! Listen to that drawl!
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This is pretty funny! I am in medicine, and when you put a tube down to help some breathe you Intubate them.. but I even hear Drs say "innabate",,, OK at first I thought it was a Baltimore thing,, but I assure you most of my Drs are not from Baltimore! Come on, I think,, we all have college degrees and medical licenses,, what the heck? I actually lost it one day in the ER,, what the heck do you want me to do?? I assure you that none of my co workers ever say innabate around me any more.. LOL It bothers me when people misuse words,, although I do admit I use regional terms sometimes.. I am trying to be better about it... I have learned terms in Baltimore I need a translator to explain!
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Gershun,

If You Can Keep Your Head When Everybody Round You Is Losing Theirs,
Then It Is Very Probable That You Don’t Understand the Situation.
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Thank you Becky for explaining that.
My ignorance about headdress could have unintentionally offended others, and I thank you for clearing that up in my mind. And I apologize for any offense.

My hubs laughs at me because I have this flowing blouse in a paisley print, and everytime I put it on, I tell him it feels like I am wearing a tablecloth, there is so much fabric.

I don't mind being corrected.
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Too funny! I’ve heard heart rending for my whole life and never thought a thing of it. Maybe it is a southern thing. There are many southern sayings, some that make me smile and some that make me cringe 🤣
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Send, Gutras, keffiyehs and other Middle Eastern headdresses in the red and white print from various countries are not signs of terrorists. And as far as the night time celebrations, that too is common. Many of their religious observances require fasting during the day. They then stay up celebrating late into the evening.

Today in the US we have far less to fear from foreign terrorists than we do from our own home grown mass shooters.
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Interesting. Maybe some regional differences. I don't think I have ever heard heart rending.
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Hm, I don't think I've ever heard anything BUT heart wrenching, maybe very occasionally gut wrenching. I don't really see why a heart can't be wrenched (twisted) just as logically as it can be rendered (broken)- we say heart sore as well as heart broken, right?
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YES!!!!! YES YES YES.

Oh bless them, that one has been making me throw things at the radio for YEARS.

And don't start me on decimate/devastate.

Or personal pronouns.

But I am proudly using y'all at every possible opportunity from now on - so excited about it!
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Barb, can't imagine being there that day. My SO at the time grew up on Long Island. Some of his high school friends were first responders that were lost that day.

Is it heart wrenching or heart rending? 😕 I see the their vs there vs they're so often, at times it definitely gets to me. I am certainly not going to become one of those that corrects or disagrees with others on this site.

The one that really drives me nuts is accept vs except!
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I don't read the religious thread...
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This whole thread wouldn't happen to be a dig at me would it? Cause I know I may have said mute instead of moot on the religious thread yesterday.

My bad!
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I started reading through this with a smile on my face, as I’m known in my family to frequently cringe over grammar errors. Of course I fully know that I also make my fair share of them. Then I read the 9/11 comments and Barb’s story, it’s heart rending and always will be, a day that I always feel a sadness that’s hard to shake.
As for adding a pet peeve, I’ll go with “could care less” If a person could care less then he or she is capable of caring less than the person already does. If you want to express that you’re truly over something, you should say you “couldn’t care less” as that means you’re not capable of caring any less than you presently do.
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Kind of like me with "fewer" and "less".
But as far as nuts, you can't hold a candle to me. Last night I answered a post that isn't there on a post that is, so of course it made little sense to anyone at all. Least of all to me.
I am about to sign up for the testing.
I love the word things that drive us crazy, because it always makes our teeth go clenched, and no one understands why.
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Send (and all) it is water under the bridge at this point.

I just thank you all for letting me tell what is making me agitated today. Making home-made pasta right now. Getting phone calls from daughters about grandkids' school issues.

Life goes on, for some of us.

If you want a wonderful tale, Google "Consider It Pure Joy". Jen was one of my neighbors and babysitters back in the day. Her recollection of 9/11 and its aftermath is what you want to read.
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Thanks for sharing Barb. Thanks for telling us your experience.

All this week, I was torturing myself about 9/11 events. Mulling it over in my mind.
Grieving. And afterwards.....did I do enough?

My dH and I were camphosts in a State Park on the West Coast. About two nights before that dreadful day, there was a large gathering. In a private campsite.
We heard whooping and hollering and went to investigate. Men dressed in red/white tablecloth-type headdress, long white robes. Late at night, small groups were leaving, going into the hills.

Our job was to report to the Park Rangers, and we did. It still bothered me, and I was told by others (Park staff), that it was ok, they were Israeli's, not terrorists.
I even recall the name the group registered under. It was in the camphost notes on the computer.

Since then, I have learned it is the dress of others who may have been terrorists.

No one would listen. I was ignored, shut up, dismissed, and belittled. It still weighs heavily on my mind. I ask myself, were the terrorists having a rally?
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So what I'm really wanting to tell y'all here;

On 9/11, a few moments after the first plane hit, my (well trained) eldest child who had just started a job on Wall Street called to tell me that she was fine, not in Lower Manhattan and had talked to her dad (my ex) and that he was fine too. The second plane hit a few moments later; I knew she was okay; ex called several hours later, weeping, to tell me what he'd seen (he WAS in lower Manhattan), and that he was fine. Ironically, one of his brothers saw the plane that hit the Pentagon.

A few minutes later, my middle child, who was at home from college, because it was primary day in NYC, called to say that she had called the Department of elections; while the clerk was on the phone with her, the second plane hit the tower and word went out in the office "run, run for your lives". My daughter was beside herself. She was home alone. I believe she still has some PTSD from this experience.

I spent the rest of the day trying to get in touch with my son, at that time a student at a NYC HS near Lincoln Center. He was in class/rehearsal and news about the attacks did not get to them until late in the afternoon. A friend of Middle Daughter walked down from the upper west side to the HS, found my son and said "dude, call your parents". Which he did.

I called my mom early in the day and told her that all my kids were accounted for and fine. Hardest lie I ever told. But what I needed to do.

Thank you all for listening.
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WILL NOT FORGET
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Oooh ooh ooh....there is a new little icon (widget handle) or button to click before I post a private message. Asking dH what is this? He signed me up for the grammer.com app.

Correction: ooh, not oooh
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Oh Barb - if you've learned Y'all . . . .you are ready for the plural of it ~ "all y'all" LOL
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lose and loose
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Advice and Advise.....
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Just in case anyone is wondering why I need distraction today, it's September 11 in NYC. You'all are keeping me sane....

A good friend from college (and from Georgia) explained "y'all" to me; English has no second person plural, which leads to much confusion. Y'all solves that problem neatly.
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