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My husband is not feeling well and I'm getting really concerned. It started with joint ache after working too hard, then he had a fever for a few days, his ankles were swollen too, I got him to go to doctors, no heart issues, negative Lyme, they gave him steroids, he got better, got another fever, lasted about 24 hours. He went for a recheck, I don't think he told the doctors about the fever, I wasn't happy, but didn't want to argue about it. He looked pretty good, I had hoped what ever it was passed. Then yesterday he got his fever back again. Now I'm pretty freaked out. I don't think I'll be able to get him to doctors today while he is sick. I got ahold of a good friend that he respects a lot, see if he can talk him into going to docs, will see.
Anyways, I really haven't liked the way he looks the last few month, and I worry about cancer , he worked in a chemical mill, and worked in waist management for like 20 years, extremely high rate of cancer.
I started an antidepressants 4 days ago, because I just have this bad gut feeling, and haven't been sleeping. There is not much anyone can help with or advice, I'm doing the best I can with a stubborn old fool. That's about it, really not any advice needed. Just explaining what's been going on . Thanks, for listening

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Daisy, that sounds so good! I am happy for you both. It's great that the dentist will call his doc and that they work together. Holidays are always good and I'm glad you feel confident about going to Ireland. Sounds like he turned a corner towards healing. These old farmers are pretty tough.
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Hubs is doing fantastic 😊 😍, I haven't seen him this good are cruise!!

Dentist is going to call his doctor, and making reservations for Ireland!!
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Alva, I don't know what's going to happen, seems around me, the farmer type, are going to the doctors, tell the doctors what's wrong and no questions asked.

I begged, pleaded, yelled begged hubby to go to docs, and asked him to get tested for Lyme, so I was on the right track, but he walked in told the PA he over worked himself, doc gave him steroids. I'm still not sure if hubs even got tested for Lyme that day, like I told him too. I was in the right area of tick, just not enough knowledge of them. His stubbornnesss once in a while for somethings can be extreme!!! I was just blindly trusting the PA.

Probably eventually we will just be talking to AI at the doctors.

The little vacation, is just what doctor Daisy ordered. 😂 We both need something to think about, and look forward to without much stress.
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They are saying AI is better at diagnosing then doctors now. It has more information and more time and more often gets it right. Just had this happen with daughter who did 7 miles by her exercise watch on one day last week, ended with swollen legs, rash over both. Went to urgent care who hadn't a clue. When she went home and looked it up it was clearly "Exercise Vasculitis" which happens so often to women over 50 visiting Disneyland in the heat that it is called Disneyland rash or Golfers rash (for the same reason). Her electrolytes were a mess, too. She works as a teacher's aid with small ones, four of them, all with behavioral and mental disorders, and her body constantly in motion, then walked all lunch hour to try to wind down. She's retiring this year, than God. But real point for this discussion is how often doctors mis diagnose or miss the diagnosis. In the case of Daisy's love this could have been disasterous, even deadly, giving steroids when the problem was tick borne disease. In daughter's her own research found the answer it would seem.

I have every admiration for modern medicine, it has been my life, but it seems to me we are now getting universal health care care for western costs. That is our care is deteriorating. We can't get appointments with real doctors, who are fleeing or not staying in our country or not wanting to finish their educations to practice here. We see a PA and often have to WAIT to see that person. Everyone is flooding Urgent Care Clinics and ERs. I wonder where Western Medicine is going. I have been really happy and lucky in my care so far, and just see really tough things out there for some others. Worrisome for this fan of Western Medicine.

Daisy. Am jelly of planned trip which sounds wonderful.
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No it is not the same doctor, that was a PA that he has never seen before, and honestly it was hubbys own gosh darn fault, because I know he didn't explain his symptoms

I never met his doctor, she is really nice, we go to different doctors in the same place. I kinda had issues, with my ex husband telling my doctor, that we were both seeing that I was crazy. Honestly I was crazy, lol but he was making me crazy. Anyways I've always wanted different doctors, just because.

His doctor seems really nice really concerned, and asked him to bring me more often, because I know what I talking about.
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Daisy, question; is this the same doctor that gave him steroids and missed this all together?

I ask because my husband had a doctor that told him to put his injured foot up for 3 days, that resulted in pulmonary embolisms, nearly killing him, and the doctor was so full of drama about it. I felt it was a diversion tactic because he almost killed my husband with his medical advice. Every doctor that has known about this is shocked that he would have been given such dangerous medical advice. Just a thought.
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Daisy, I totally get the keeping up with the buddies, it's a man thing!

Perhaps a talk with him about rebuilding his stamina and NOT tearing himself apart by over doing it? Maybe talk to his buddies and get them on board to butt in and tell him to take it easy?

My husband is very much a "nothing serious just a severed limb" kinda guy. I just keep an eye on signals how he is doing, then offer him whatever I think will help keep him healthy. He is a big boy and knows what his body is telling him, I try to give him soft landings when needed. It's an art form you will soon have mastered :-)
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(((((Daisy))))) so many decisions!!!! Sounds like he has a good doctor. I think you are wise to inform the dentist well and see what he and the doc say. Your hub is not used to what he would think as "coddling" himself, but that's probably what he needs to do - for a while anyway.

You are doing a great job! You know him and the situation best. His doc is concerned and giving you sound advice. It's good you can email her with questions. I'm sure you both will figure it out.

Moderation in everything!
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That's Alva and isthisrealllyreal, my issue with boccie is him pacing himself with his buddies, and the heat. But your all right, just a little freaked out at how upset and worried his doctor was yesterday.
She cares and that's nice!!

Nurse called and said his blood work yesterday came back really well! I asked her about the dentist, they said they kinda would rather him wait till like September, but it should be ok , anyways Monday he is getting forms done, I'm gonna go, explain it all too dentist, see if he sees any immediate red flags, and go from there, between, dentist, doctors, and so on.
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Daisy, not being slightly exposed to the current bacteria and germs is a sure fire way to have no immunity when you are exposed.

I would encourage both of you to be out and about but, bolster your immune system with vitamin C, B complex, zinc, magnesium and probiotics, as well as good nutritious food. Hand washing and not touching your face when out and about goes a long ways protecting us from bugs. Oh and getting sufficient rest to recover.

As far as the doctor saying, should be...they can't say for certain how anyone will recover. Lots of people ignore the steps for optimal recovery, doctors can't know so won't commit, hence should be.

I would encourage you to make sure that he is able to cool off by having wet rags in a baggy when out and about, cool, damp rag on your neck cools you down. I also take an insulated cup with ice cubes, those on your wrists will cool your body. Oh, and always have something cool for him to sip and get those electrolytes replaced, there are lots of products that you can add to water or take a pill.

I want to encourage you to NOT buy trouble. You had a scare but living in fear is not living. We all have an appointed time to meet our maker, worrying and not living won't change that but, it can change us and not for the better.

He is okay, he is recovering. You are okay. Be balanced!

Hugs, I do understand wanting to wrap him up and protect him.
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Daisy,

Knowing what hubby has been through I hope this is a good oral surgeon as regards the teeth and I want you to be CERTAIN he has a good antibiotic on board that his own doctor and this dental specialist AGREE upon given this diagnosis. Pulling teeth especially when there are problems with them is EXCEPTIONALLY dangerous for elders. This is a direct access to blood, to sepsis, to the brain. THIS IS MAJOR and you need a good understanding consult with the oral surgeon before it is done, and yes, build hubby up now with good healing foods.

Try not to take things from him he loves, esp. the Bocci. He can sit out a few tosses. Should be protected from heat and sun and ready to leave when they get too much, but you don't want to make him an invalid. That can happen after a scare like this. My N. is a bit overprotective of me now as I am moving out into the world alone for my silly little trips. Wants to "drive me" everywhere. It's good, however, for me to get back to the walking, the bus trips I like, and etc. You will remember last year when I went to the annual Bougets to Art at the DeYoung Museum here in SF? I knocked down a perfectly good octogenarian MD (or we bumped into each another and he happened to be the one to go down). It's on this week (google it; it's so beautiful) and I AM missing that one with its crowds. But I am pretty determined to get back up and running. One tends to go a bit agoraphobic staying in.

I think you are thinking it all out and making great decisions. Just remember, nothing wrong with going and leaving early.
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So I went to the doctors with hubs yesterday.

First of all the heat absolutely is not good for him, went to docs then out for breakfast home and inside the rest of the day.

Docs said it could a month or 2 , he was surprised, of course I was hoping not to hear that, but expected it. I think because of the heat it's gonna be even worse. She wants him to eat lots of chicken, to build his protein back up, that's not a problem.

One thing I didn't think of is how important it is right now for him to not catch anything else. So Im kinda remembering are covid little bubble. Which is fine for a few months, we have 2 parties in 2 weeks to go to, one is an outside after wedding party, that, if it's warm he won't be able to go to any ways. The other indoors, we aren't going, why chance anything these next two months!!!

Getting him to not push himself is not an easy task. I'm really thinking he shouldn't play Boccie, I'm not sure how to break it to him. I wouldnt mind if he was the type to say, hey I'm done, someone else take over for me, but that gosh darn male ego, among his friends, he will never do!

The other thing is us going to Ireland in September, she said "it Should, be ok" I'm not liking the should or the questionable look on her face, so absolutely no clue what I'm gonna do about that!!

Next I forgot to ask, and I will email her today, about his dental work in July, he is getting his top teeth pulled. I do know how important this is but I also think it's too soon, so I'm going to email her.

She told us, someone about his age in are little town died from this exactly same thing last year, she had other health issues though.
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I echo Cwillie, I somehow missed this thread.. but hugs hugs hugs Daisy!

I just read the rough ride from high temps to sepsis to ticks. The ride is clearly not over yet but I do like your positive energy that every OTHER part of his body is healthy!
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There was a warning on the news last night about all the tick born illnesses that are becoming a problem. We have been warned there will be an increase of these nasty critters.

I have to say, if our dry climate is problematic then everyone living in humid, warm climates should take extra precautions when out and about. As daisy's husband's journey has proven.

Stay safe everyone!
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Can you go on the portal and compare them to previous results ( when in the hospital ) to see if they have improved ?
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Way, oh I did Google it, I'm not to trusting of doctors after they gave him the steroids. I'm like triple checking everything.
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The doctor’s office would call if they were worried about it . I’m with Alva , hubs has been through the wringer and those are slight deviations . For all you know they could be much improved from samples taken when he was very ill .

BTW you could google any blood test now. It gives the normal ranges and the possible reasons for highs and lows.

And finally , hubs is getting up there in years , slight deviations are not rare . Also if he smokes that is a factor .
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It makes physiological sense to me that values vary a bit even beyond the normal range especially after a serious illness, Surely his doc would let you know if there is a problem. However, I do understand checking and double checking things especially after what he has been through. I don't trust docs a great deal myself.
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Thanks Alva, I assumed all that. I just want to turn every rock over , so to speak
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Daisy, I am the last to ask, quite honestly. I am so long out of nursing I am lucky to remember the norms of a simple H&H (Hemoglobin and Hematocrit). Your doc will give a buzz if he's worried about any of these numbers, but if the are minimally changed, after all he's going through I wouldn't worry. Give their office a buzz if you ARE worried, or if you have a portal ask them "Anything to worry about in recent bloodwork?"

I think you can expect minor fluctuations after any illness, and he was just through the wringer. Again, your doc will be alerted if there's anything out of the norm enough to worry about. Hoping he continues to feel great.
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Just going over hubs blood work, that he has yesterday and wanted to run it by Alva or anyone.

MCHC is low by .1

MPV is high by .7

Everything else is in normal range.

I'm thinking this is pretty good, considering, but would love others opinion
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Thanks Alva,
Lots happened but that is another long story.
Just read your update re big C. Hope all is well.
Daisy,
Follow your intuition. You know H better.
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Evamar, it's so good to see you. I know you are dealing with hubby's pain and problems still. Miss you when you're gone!

Daisy, so glad healing continues for your hubby!
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Joann, I know, he is truly doing amazing 😍, for what he went through.

Eva, my heart goes out to you, I now know how hard this truly is. 🙏🙂‍↕️💞
Yes he is 11 years older. Try to take care of yourself, somedays that feels next to impossible.
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Daisy.
I am sorry to hear about your husband. Hope he will improve, it will take time.
If I remember correctly he is little older than you? In his 70s?
I know how you feel I am going thru hard times as well.
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I was told by a nurse, for every day in the hospital, it takes 3 days of PT to get back to normal.

Your husband almost died. You said he hadn't been right for 2 months. Its going to take a while to get back to snuff. His age will have something to do with it too.
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Isthisrealllyreal, I know, I keep telling him that, on top of that he is recovering from sepsis and anaplasmosis, and he needs to limit his time in the sun, because of the meds.

We went for a short ride yesterday, to get flowers, and stopped at a local fish fry food truck. He sat and kept me company while I potted some of the flowers. Then he came in, took a nap, and watched more TV.

I have him drinking a boost in the morning, and he really is craving healthier foods. So that's great
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Daisy, hubby is still recovering from a serious illness. Hopefully, he understands that it takes time to rebuild stamina after being bedbound. I was told 1 24 hour period of inactivity takes away all our stamina and it needs to be rebuilt, so days definitely have a bigger impact and longer recovery period.

It's good he is working and napping, best way I know to rebuild our strength. Oh and nutritious food.

I hope your friend listens, nothing wrong with being cautious and getting a 2nd opinion. I have to say that the doctors in your area are different from ours, here they only hand out steroids when absolutely needed and give warnings about the dire consequences of taking them. Scares you enough to not want them for sure.
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So we ran into a good friend of ours yesterday at a food truck. He has a cold, and his knee is swelled up, he just came from the doctors and his doctor gave him steroids!!

Husband is on the phone with him, trying to talk him into getting blood test for tick disease, he lives alone so I can't tell his wife. Honestly I don't think there is any getting through to him. He is the type to say, "a rattle snake bites me and he runs away to die.

What is up with Doctors giving out steroids like candy. If he doesn't get tested I guess when his steroids run out, I'm just going to call him everyday.
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Hubbys doing great, but I think he is going to get frustrated because he can't do the things he use to do. He does a little, like mows the lawn, on a rider, then has to come in and take a break. Then by 3 he has to nap for an hour or so.

Blood work Monday, doctors appointments Thursday, that I'm going to insist I go to with him.
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