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Yes, Ali, that's exactly right. It's an old handyman's trick. He had a drop ceiling in the garage and attached baby food jars, mayo jars and old peanut butter jars to the ceiling by mounting wooden strips to the ceiling and then screwing the lids of the jars to the wood strips. Then you just put the jars in place. It's pretty cool.
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Susan, I got all of it except "attacked to the ceiling by their lids." He nailed or screwed or glued the lids to ceiling, then he can turn the jar in and out for storage and access? That's kind of ingenious, actually. Am I picturing this right?
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cwillie - I could go into business outfitting elder's shoes with those screws. I'm sure my dad has about a billion of them in the garage. All neatly stored away in plastic trays and labeled, too, or in old mayo and peanut butter jars attached to the ceiling by their lids.
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I've got a tip I want to share with anyone who has to walk on icy sidewalks, add hex screws to the bottom of your shoes/boots.
When I first read about this on runner's forums I thought they were nuts, drive screws into the bottom of my shoes? I bought the recommended #8 1/2" sheet metal screws but left them tucked away unused. When I got new shoes this spring I figured I had nothing to lose by trying it out on my oldest pair, well guess what, it works! I might add a few more since I wasn't too sure about the best placement, but they really do add traction and I don't have to worry about them falling off like those over the shoe cleats they sell. Cheap too. If you want to see a demo go to youtube and search "screws in shoes".
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Well, that's good Susan cause here in Vancouver there have been a few heartbreaking stories of couples that had been married for years and were separated into two different nursing homes because of lack of availability. They showed them crying with each other. Simply devastating to watch.
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Pretty sure the male/female patient acceptance is determined by room availability. If they don't have a male roommate for your male loved one, then they won't accept him. NH's usually don't allow male/female roommates unless they are married or in a long-term relationship of sorts and want to be placed together. Mom's NH had a specific room they kept available for married couples who came in together.
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Maybe the nursing home has a certain quota they have to fill for male vrs. female patients and the male side is filled already. It could be something as simple as that. No comfort when you are desperate to get a loved one in but ..........if that is the case they should at the very least explain that to you.
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About the caregiver's support group. One man comes in packing heat. He carries a gun in a holster. It makes me feel uneasy. He is a caregiver of his wife who has AD. I complained to the management, a hospital but they said he was within his rights. Yikes I sure don't like this arrangement.
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Brandywine...I don't think that's OK.Maybe they have no openings for a man at a certain NH right now.I don't know but Good for you to go to the caregivers group.I go to a group but I get anxious about going in but once I'm there I'm always glad I went and Iv'e learned a lot from other caregivers so hopefully you will find help also.Take care.................
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Brandy, it could simply be that they just don't have any beds available for men in their dementia wing, and the waiting list is probably long.
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Went to the caregivers support group. One woman there said her husband had dementia and they are looking for a place for him. She said she tried the local NH. They were told that they are not taking male dementia patients. Can they do this? The NH is supported by tax payers. Isn't that discrimination?
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"What do we want?" - No idea.
"When do we want it?" - When do we want what..?

I think it was Matt who did a cartoon of an Age Concern protest in Parliament Square with one protester saying to another "I came on this demo but I can't for the life of me remember why."

He did another of a doctors' march with all the placards covered in illegible slogans.
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MsMadge can you imagine the demonstration? Like herding cats. Would they remember why they were there...
And what would chants or theme song be? "you can Depends on me"?
please don't be offended but as long as commercials feature happy clean cognizant elders people are convinced it's fine.
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Demented lives matter
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Its been three days since anyone posted on this thread. As creator of thread it is my responsibility to keep it moving. So this is me keeping it moving.....................................................still moving.....................still moving.....................ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ oops.......nodded off there.
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Thank you, Gershun and freqflyer... I really hope he gets acquainted with some of the residents I know there. This is all becoming so clear to me that I'm doing the right thing. He will also continue to get physical therapy which I am thankful. So, the next big step will be transporting him from Tn to Ok.
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Thanks Veronica -
I did pick up the Icy Hot with Lidocaine the other night. Giving that a try, and have thought of the patches and tens units too....anything to get through this until I can get in to the doc.
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Also Signart if your Dad is in a facility the stress and burden of having to be sole giver will be eliminated and perhaps you will find that your relationship with him will be enhanced because he will so appreciate your visits and knowing that he is getting the care he needs you will be able to discuss other things with him besides his care etc.
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SignArt, oh my gosh your Dad is so young. Try not to feel guilty having Dad move to a continuing care facility.... think of it was being the case where your Dad needs a higher level of care then you can give as you can't be awake 24 hours a day to help Dad with so many different things.

Plus Dad would be around people close to his own age group and probably make some new friends. When my Dad moved to Assisted Living he was so happy there, he wished he had moved there years ago :) Yes, I felt guilt about not caring for Dad at my home, but my house had too many stairs and no place to create a bedroom on the main floor. Plus I was a lousy cook, so I knew Dad was getting meals at Assisted Living that he really enjoyed.
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Susan there are OTC pain patches now which may help. I have used the prescription Lidocaine patches and they did help. There is also a 4%local anesthetic OTC gel which may also be useful. i also like the Gold Bond pain reliever. It is not a good idea to overuse tylenol but you can take Motrim as well unless there is a reason not to take it (if you are on Blood thinners) If you are trying to ease out the pain pills try taking a half and some tylenol ( still don't exceed the max dose of tylenol.) Most of the pain pills also contain it. Some people also find a TENS unit helpful which can be mail ordered fairly inexpensively.
Look up the max dose of Motrin and try that it is quite a lot.
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Thank you, Veronica91! After much deliberation and touring facilities in my area, I decided on one in my hometown. It isn't skilled, but I know almost everyone that works there. Yes, this has been a strain on finances and marriage! I tried to play SuperWoman and handle everything myself and it has left me depressed, drained and overweight!! Ready for things to settle down!
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Thank you, JessieBelle! Yes, I need to give it a chance. We are waiting on PEG tube removal as the new facility will not accept those. The transition is and transfer is scaring me a little, but I need to trust the journey! I appreciate the kind words!
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SignArt time to think of a place to put dad. your siblings won't help and hubby clearly does not want you to bring him home. perhaps a solution would be to find a facility close to your home where you could at least visit frequently and supervise his care. if you have had to spend your own money to care for him he will probably be able to get medicaid. Look into all this. the way this is going you will not only exhaust yourself but your marriage too and that comes before dad. it sounds as though he will continue to decline even though he is still young. So make other arrangements as soon as possible. You will still have responsibilities you may wish to avoid but you will not be managing on your own.
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SignArt, your husband sounds like a wise man. You are going to feel guilty no matter what. I think it is a woman's burden in life to feel guilty about this type of thing. There's only so much we can do, though. If you find a good place, you may find that he enjoys it more than he would enjoy living with your family. It would give him a chance to strike up new relationships with people. That would be a good thing. Give him a while to settle in to his new place and see how it goes. You might not be doing hands-on care, but you'll be caring for him just the same.
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Hi! I'm new here and am very thankful for this site!!! This has given me some comfort as I have been looking after my 71 years young father who suffered a stroke/wreck in April 2016. By looking after him, I mean staying with him in Trauma Unit and from there, in and out of rehabs and hospitals. I've been in Memphis, TN with him now for almost 8 months! I live in the panhandle of Oklahoma. He can't walk, barely talks and is finally starting to eat purée foods. He has a little dementia that seems to be getting worse. It is so frustrating as I am the only one looking after him. I have 2 half brothers and two full brothers and none of them have a relationship with him. I want to bring him home with me, but my husband fears it will take a toll on me and I will lose my health. So, reluctantly, I'm looking at putting him in a facility in my small town so I can keep an eye on him. I am overcome with guilt and cry everyday because I am totally alone in this. My husband says that I deserve to have a life as well, but I can't stop feeling guilty. When does this subside? I need to go home and go back to work as we have exhausted our savings in order for me to be here along side my dad. Thanks in advance for reading! Any thoughts?
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JessieBelle,

I am only 645 days, 15496 hours in for having Mom live with me and it seems like a lifetime already.
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FF,

Glad to hear that. She is one of my favorites. I thought
I saw a news story about her dying the other day but I guess not.
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Actually Betty White is alive and well, and will be in a new comedy series next year. She will be 95 the middle of January.
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Mom2Mom, I read what you wrote after I submitted my message. You and I are going through the same thing. I find myself wondering how a parent could expect this of a child and how other people can turn away. We're left wrestling with all the decisions about what to do. My mother only says no to every option and that she is going to die in her home.
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Day 2,546 of caregiving. Not that I'm counting. My brother flew across the country and I didn't even know about it until I saw the pictures on Facebook. Hall of Shame is all I can say. Feeling depressed today.
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