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Thanks to the people responding about US media and alphabet issues. I think my conclusion is that the media ride the wave of something new. The first stories get interest, largely for novelty. The computers tell the media company that there are a lot of hits on the stories. The journalists do more stories because it’s a current interest. Then from the sound of it, the novelty and the interest eventually wear out, and the wave subsides. I can hardly wait for it to happen here!

I’m very glad that harassing gay men is off the police to-do list, and I hope that ‘look at me, I’m different’ disappears as well. I don’t need to hear any more about how transgenders suffer if they can’t go into women’s toilets, or how awful they feel if they can’t compete in women’s sports. And Burnt, I quite agree about getting back to a focus on the fundamentals of rights and oppression, affecting half the population – women. I wonder if pulpit orators realise that they too are saying 'your body, my choice'?
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@Margaret

I think the "alphabet people" have been so over-emphasized that people here in the U.S. are exhausted of all the 'wokeness' aka nonsense over it. It's unfortunate that it's been shoved dwn everyone's throats so much that actual important issues get forgotten about and ignored by people.

Yes, American women and girls are losing the most basic, fundamental right guaranteed by the 4th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. The right to Privacy under the law. Also women are losing the most basic of human rights. The power to make decisions concerning our own bodies. Evidently, to the majority of the American people saving a nickel on a gallon of gas and not having unisex restrooms was worth sacrificing the most basic human rights of all American women and girls.

@Anxietynacy

An abandoned toilet paper factory is asking for a bunch of teens to light TP on fire and jump over it with skateboards. I'm 50 years old and this would tempt me.

It was up to the owners of the factory to secure the place and have some security on it so kids can't get up to lighting toilet paper fires on the premesis.
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Ana, it’s a problem any time anyone is being told what they should lose their mind over. It’s also a problem when they believe it and obey.
Remember the OLD tv show Dragnet? “Just the facts, ma’am.”
That kind of reporting is just a memory.
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Two words in Peasuep’s post are very important . Perception and Perspective.
For this reason I’m not confident there would be consistent answers to Margaret’s question .

It’s difficult to decipher at times if changing beliefs are the cause of what is in the media or the other way around .

The whole chicken or the egg , which is first thing ,
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Didn’t it seem odd that people were told to lose their minds over a trans face on a beer can but nobody mentions the detrimental influence of the Koch brothers? Child abuse fabrications about a pizza parlour and an online retailer, while clergy (where there is evidence, with victims calling out to be heard) are excused?

It’s as if we’re being told to hate the colour of our neighbour’s house while ignoring that our own is on fire.
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Margaret,
I’m trying to focus on your specific question as to whether the US media emphasis on, for lack of a better term, ‘LGBTQ+ rights’ is surging at this moment in time in the US as you perceive it to be in Australia.
From my limited perception, the answer is no. I believe the reason is that the ‘movement’ has been WAY over promoted in the media for the last few years, even in the opinion of some within that particular community.

That over promotion made public some very epic fails in business, sports and public policy in the US recently, and as a result I think the pendulum, for better or worse depending on one’s perspective, has reached its peak and is beginning to swing the other way, hopefully toward more balance.
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I assume it would depend on which media people are looking at ….., including network news , fringe media , podcasts, influencers , social media etc. It seems many media sources pick what they want to exaggerate , slant , and some even lie to push rhetoric or for monetary gain .
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I live in Canada, and my homes have all been close to the US border. Friends and family in both countries. Our media is a mix from both countries.

It certainly disturbed me that Title VII, enacted in 2014, was reversed in 2017. That action was solely for the purpose of taking away rights for the trans community. I think about 1/4 of states offer zero protection against harassment and firing of LGBTQ+ employees, hence the need for federal laws.

Empathy seems in short supply. Imagine your life if, because you are a woman, or your employer believes you to be a woman, your rights are gone. Walking on eggshells every day at work. The economic uncertainty knowing you’re a no-fault fire. The first to go, in spite of your record, because you have no recourse. The insult of being considered less of a human.

So I protest at the erosion of women’s and LGTBQ+’s rights. Canada tends to follow US social trends to some degree. We are seeing more socially conservative rhetoric, when really, people should wise up to the ‘divide and conquer’ lies and fear-mongering, used to distract us from serious issues. (climbing down off my soapbox now)
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Margaret - Our proximity to America means many Canadians get the vast majority of their news and opinions from American sources, so much so that some of the clowns arrested for ignoring pandemic rules spouted they were protecting their "constitutional" rights. It doesn't help that much of our media is owned by an American hedge fund.
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This is a new general topic, and I hope it’s not seen as ‘political’. Australian media have had a strong emphasis in past months on what are sometimes known collectively as ‘alphabet people’ (LGBTQIA+), their rights to choose their gender, their perceived oppression etc. Following the US election I read some really awful far right comments dumping on women’s rights (eg your body, my choice), which I am NOT blaming on any political party.

While I support rights for everyone, I would prefer to think first about correcting the common gender oppression for the last few thousand years, rather than for small minorities who are recently making a lot of 'look at me' noise. On the site we still see a lot of female posters (not only from migrant backgrounds) who are still picking a lot of the worst responsibilities in aged care, because it's 'clearly' a job for women - wives, daughters and daughters-in-law.

What I would be interested to hear from my friends on the Forum is whether you too in the US have had this strong emphasis on very vocal ‘alphabet people’. A lot of people here are blaming it on our own media, perhaps with their own 'alphabet' component. People on the site ought to know. Any clues?
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It’s nuts, isn’t it? Years ago I worked in a specialist clinic associated with the Adventist system. When I started there, individual people were actually ‘seen’. Then, about 8 years in, a big management company took over and the whole system took a dive. It was awful to watch; worse to be part of. 2 years later I left that system never to return.

When I was diagnosed with cancer I paid out of network costs to see an oncologist I knew was ‘old-school’ and actually treated his patients as whole people. He retired early because the system would not allow him to provide primary care along with cancer care for his patients. He was the last of a dying breed.

This should probably be under a Whine!
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Psue - sounds like close to a big fat zero for the appointment. You wonder how much something like that costs the system, never mind what it costs you in time, effort and money. I am sure the pacemaker co would contact you if something was off.

Enjoy the plateau. Though the waiting for the next shoe to drop is hard. Hopefully the neuropsych appointment will be useful/enlightening.

For me the quote especially applies to family members. 🙄
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Oh Golden, I really like that! Most of the time I don’t mind being misunderstood but once in awhile I get caught off guard, especially if it’s with a family member.

Cardiology appointment was pretty worthless. This is a new doctor - DH’s previous cardiologist left the system so we needed to start all over again. Apparently there hasn’t been any change in his level of heart failure because follow-up is in one year. DH was taken off one blood thinner which I appreciate. The tech required to check his pacemaker/defibrillator canceled at the last minute so I have no idea if things are stable there. It is monitored, so I assume the company would contact me if there was a problem. Thank you for asking!

Onward to neuro-psyche next month. Things have plateaued around here, which is nice, but as always I’m waiting for the next shoe to drop.
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Found this bit of wisdom this morning and it resonated with me. - posted by Laddie Mae f/b

"I don't have the energy to debate. I'm at at peace with being misunderstood."

Oh, boy, am I!!!!

Psue - how did the cardiology appointment go?
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Nacy, Its cardiology this time so I won’t know anything until tomorrow. Sweet of you to ask!
Neuro-psyche is next month.
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Same thing happened to DH and me. We were very close with a couple for several years. We went through some very difficult times together and our friends dealt with it all by becoming involved in an evangelical church. It helped them immensely and we were so happy for them. Unfortunately for us, it also taught them that with every encounter, they had not only an opportunity but a duty to try to bring us into the flock. We told them how we felt and asked to be allowed to just observe the positive changes their beliefs had made in their lives but their belief that they would not be good Christians if they did not push was foremost, and we drifted apart. It was sad but they didn’t see that they were being disrespectful even when we pointed it out.
I want to know what people believe because their beliefs make them who they are. But I can love who they are without believing the same things they do.
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In my previous neighborhood I was 1 of 5 women who, somehow, ended up very close over 25 years. We were like pearls on a string of political beliefs from extremely conservative to extremely liberal, also from traditionally religious, to atheist. Really, we were different in every possible way except gender and proximity. It is miraculous that we ended up together and how much we learned from each other. We enriched each other’s lives in so many ways.

I’m not saying there weren’t rough patches and I have no doubt the string would have broken if we hadn’t been able to see beyond (not ignore) our political or religious beliefs. But we learned to give ourselves and each other grace. None of us would be who we are if hadn't learned to embrace each other as whole people rather than put each other in ideological boxes.

A person who shows their beliefs to you is just showing you a part of themself. A person who tries to force their beliefs onto you is not showing respect for who you are. You have to be able to distinguish the difference. The first is a friend; the second is just a person that is easy to walk, or scroll, away from.
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If you’re truly interested in people, you’re interested in politics and religion. Neither of those things make a person more or less interesting if you look at the world with a macro view. Evangelism of any belief can be annoying if you don’t share it but it really isn’t threatening. My DH absolutely must have pineapple on his pizza and I absolutely will not eat raw tomato on mine but somehow we’re still together.
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No politics please, it's too triggering for many people.
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After a week away from FB, I found out that a FB friend removed me because of the Election Day post I made right after the first polls closed. Apparently, telling people to pray for the country regardless of who won and to stay off of social media was apparently triggering enough for her to unfriend me.

And when it comes to political activity on FB, 2024 as a whole has been the most quiet I've been on there since early in college and for the few political posts I've shared on my page, I fixed it to where she was among those who didn't see any of them to avoid trouble. And I never once went after her for her beliefs.

Btw, she was involved with campus ministry up until a few years ago.
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Glad: Thanks for letting us know the sad news of Jeanne's passing. Good to see you.
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I'm sorry to hear that😔
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Jeanne was a major contributor here. I knew she had a stroke a few years ago.
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Thanks, Glad. Happy to see you here. Barb let us know the sad news as well.
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Long time contributor to our group, Jeanne has passed last night.
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The Pogo scrabble game that I like to waste time with isn't loading on either of my browsers, that leaves me with just the Microsoft Solitaire suite.

Pop ups and ads are for people who don't know how to block those things (although admittedly doing so on a phone is much more complicated than on a PC)
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I do facebook and avoid news as well. My facebook is images like scenery that I post, some art, funny quotes, photography I like and a little I/we do, animals...You can set it up as you want it to be. Re news, I figure if it is that earth shaking I'll hear about it anyway from R. He follows it but he is an optimistic person so it doesn't get him down much. He has other things to think about like pastures for the colts.

My "third place" would be anywhere in the condo buildings outside of our unit - in the elevator, getting the mail, walking in the parkade, doing the jigsaw in the second floor lounge. People are friendly but not intrusive. I don't need a lot of company.

Alva, sorry you took a tumble. Hope you heal soon.
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Oh, the third place.
How did I not know that?
My dH knew it.

News:
I sometimes rely on my friends to inform me of important news.
Otherwise, I am busy with ADL's.
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Now you REALLY have my sympathy. I avoid news like the plague. Quite honestly it has zero to do with my life as I live it unless a quake is here.
N. loves news and is a true junky and to tell you the truth it simply is NOT making him happier in his dotage.
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The "third place" is a thing in sociology Send, home and work are the first and second place, the third place encompasses the place "where you relax in public, where you encounter familiar faces and make new acquaintances" (wikipedia)

I'm a news junkie and I think I'm going to have to totally eliminate that from my life and live in wilful, blissful ignorance if I want to survive.
Oh I'm just coming back to add - things don't have to be overt and in your face to be toxic, just the constant repetition of gloom and doom negativity can be poisonous.
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