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Joan, sorry to hear about your flashback and am glad that you figured out where those feelings were coming from. I have a friend who is dealing with PTSD from being in the Vietnam War. His therapist wanted him to picture in his mind being an observer of the war instead of a participant in the war. I'm not sure what purpose that was to accomplish. Maybe her point was for him to objectify his experience of the war like we do when we watch a movie? I don't know. I do know that my therapist had me to chose a very pleasant scene in my mind to be able to escape to when trauma would take place. (I chose one of my favorite and most peaceful places to be is on the ocean shore.) I would google Rapid Eye Movement Therapy for PTSD. There is a good site with that title which might give you further ideas. Love, Prayers and Hugs for all. Good nite!
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I love all you wonderful women. Each of you are so strong, special and compassionate. I am just honored to be in your presence.

Love you, Cat
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Thanks, jeanne. It is amazing, and I agree that memory is awesome and myaterious. I have good memories too, from childhood, but not many from my family. Yes, Lisa's charges will remember her kindness. The adults in our childhoods leave lasting impressions. I may look up a PTSD specialist. It would be good to get rid of them, if I can.

Leading the service? Way to go, Jeanne! You are many good things, and one of those is courageous. My prayers are with you and will continue, especially for Sunday afternoon. This is a very special time for you and for all your family. I know you will do an excellent job, as you have all along. Breaking down is OK.
diavalon -sounds like it was lovely
cat - I know and thanks :)
sharyn - this time it was the feelings triggered by G walking past me in the hotel to respond to a coworker. His company discourages partners from coming along. He had already asked his boss, who was not in favour, but G decided that we would take the chance, as his hours have been so long and we have had little time together. but play it safe, so I mostly stayed out of the way. However this happened and it brought up all the feelings of rejection I had that summer. I am glad I realised. I had my bags packed and was ready to get a room of my own before it clicked. I knew he had to do what he did, and in no way does he reject me, and I knew I was overeacting - that is the symptom - overreaction. I think what you experienced was the same kind of thing, otherwise you would be able to brush off your picky supervisor more easily. Other times, I can almost hear mother's voice, but I wouldn;t say I have ever completely relived an episode with her, though I can recall scenes. With Gordie, I get flashbacks of scenes and feelings.
Lisa, it is sad and scary. Hope ray is OK,
austin - I can imagine your emotions are all over the place. Glad no one came up saying how wonderful she was. Talking with someone may help. It was what it was, and it is what it is. You still have the experiences/memories to deal with, and the harm from her lifetime. It doesn't go away when they die. I am sorry you had such flashbacks and nightmares after your husband died.

On a light note, I had something I wanted to tell G when he was at breakfast with his team the first morning, so I wrote it in a note and asked the head waitress to give it to him. It was a compliment, so he read it and smiled (I hid behind a post and watched, and felt like a teenager). later he told me he got teased by the guys who said he had ony been there over night and someone was sending him notes already. The waitresses were intrigued, so I had to tell them and they were very friendly, and one asked if i was coming back, and made note of my name. The hostess and I talked clothes and what else but -nail pollish!!!!!

We are at my friends now, had a lovely supper - trout fillets covered with walnuts and banana!!! and a great veggie stir fry. Niagara Falls tomorrow, a "block party" Saturday, and home Sunday. Hopefully a slide show of Barbados sometme, and a game of bridge. Great having a little holiday with my man.
Love and ((((((((hugs)))))))) to all Joan
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Joan -my sister and I talked about what us sibs could of become if our Mon did not take out her anger and disappointment on us growing while thinking she was a good mother -I just tried to survivie and get the hell away from home-she was easier on our brothers-my emotions are all over the place since she died-the social worker at our senior center said she would talk to me if I wanted to do that-I might someday but it is or was what it was-I have no real knowledge why she behaived as she did-at least at the funeral noone came up to me telling me how wonderful a person she was-which I was afraid might have happened so I did not have to deal with all of that which I had to endure when my husband died-not my friends but people who lived in the town he grew up in-I just did not say anything but I know some people rewrite history as my sister said about my aunt and my mother did that also-I almost fainted when she said that she must have been a good mother because we all turned out ok-but that was because we were strong and turned out ok in spite of how she treated us and I think we had people in our lives who believed in us. I don't hav flashbacks or nightmares like I did after my husband died but I did learn from you and others how a narcisic person can effect us greatly and I know she was narcisic and the way she acted is what they do and how much they harm their children.
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Jeannegibbs! Girl you rock!!!! You will make coy proud!!!!

Still sitiing here with ray. I was able to hook up to the dr office wifi. Whoda thunk??? They just took him back for the fourth time. called Mary to let her know dr still hasn't gotten all the cancer. Need more tissue. She proceeded to tell me how sorry she is and she hopes I'm ok. Still makes me catch my breath. It took a few minutes talking, then she remembered to ask about ray. So I just repeated what we talked about. This is so dam scary. Love to all!!!!
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Joan~Are you experiencing the feelings or do you actually relive the event as though it is happening now? I know the feelings are intense enough to cause emotional stress without having to virtually relive it. I worked on Thanksgiving Day and my boss was on me all day long. Everything she saw me do she criticized how I was not using my time effectively and so on. It brought back those feelings of my mother constantly criticizing me and I was weepy for a few days after. I don't know if it is the same thing as what you are talking about or not. I am sending you Hugs as my heart goes out to you!!

Jeanne~The service will be a beautiful tribute to your husband's life and your marriage. Sending you and your family hugs and will be thinking of you!!
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Jeanne: I will be holding you in white light on Sunday. Wis we could all be there with you.

Lisa: Hope things go well for Ray this morning. Let us know.

Joan: I've got your back too. Hugs!!!!!
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Jeanne--My SIL and the Girls did this for my brother and it was beautiful. The granddaughters sang a song to grandpa as well. Yes a break down is possible but
this is your final farwell. God bless and do what you feel is best.
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Hugs to you Joan. Isn't it amazing that something that happened so long ago can still be so vivid today? Fortunately that works for good things as well as bad. Some day Lisa's little lost-tooth bus rider will be an elderly woman and she'll suddenly remember that kindness and smile. Memory is an awesome and mysterious part of human makeup. I hope your memories of abuse are less and less frequent and that you can cope with them to minimize the pain.
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I just talked to the funeral home person. She asked who will be conducting the memorial service. I told her I would. She said, "No, I mean who will do the speaking?" I assured her that I would lead the service and that other family members would share memories. She tried to talk me out of that. She reminded me that this will be a very emotional time and that I might break down. Yup, could happen. But I'm doing it.

Be thinking of me on Sunday afternoon, please!
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Thanks, Lisa. I wish u could too. I can feel it. At least I figured out last night where the feelings were coming from. It was all part of one of the summers from h*ll, and came after a couple of months of being raged at daily. Never could figure out for what. It was in the middle of my university years, and I will never know how I finished my degree, and in fact did quite well. I have wondered how much better I would have done had I not been subjected to that abuse - not that I was held back from anything I went for. I know you must have some bad memories too. I wish I could distance myself from them more. The more I distance myself from my mother, and sister, the better it is for me. On the one hand, it doesn't seem right to distance myself from a 100 yr old, yet, on the other hand it feels necessary for my survival. She may be the next 116 yr old, and I can't afford to give up the next 16 yrs of my life. I have lost too much to her and sis already. (((((((hugs)))))) to you, cyber-sister, and all the others out there. It helps knowing you have my back. Much love Joan
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Joan: sorry bout your flashback. Wish I could give you a hug when it happens!!!
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((((((Lisa))))))) what a difficult situation and heartbreaking when thinking of the kids. maybe the forces of nature were better than a crazy woman, So glad they have you and your friend.

Hope Rays surgery goes well, Good for all of you staying there to see him through the bandage changing. I will pray for no skin grafts too,

cat -she is a mail lady and I wouldn't jump her in anything -the first decent mailperson we have had in a long time.

I got hit by a flashback to my mother and my sister walking past me in the street and refusing to acknowledge me - still haven't caught my breath. This PTSD stuff is hard to get rid of. Anyone got any ideas how to do that? Wish life was less complicated sometimes. (((((hugs))) to all
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Sharyn, so sorry your feeling bad! Take care of yourself. Love, Lisa
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Hi everyone! Tomorrow I take ray to have the skin cancer removed from his face. As I've said, five month delay because of chemo. We are praying no skin grafts are needed this time. We were there nearly 15 hours last time. I get a knot in my stomach thinking of the pain he was in, and marys confusion trying to take his bandages off to change them in the middle of the night. But we have that covered. Doug stays tomorrow night, I'll take Friday, and sil will take sat.
Went into work this morning and was put on a route with a new driver. We have a woman who we have all suspected is unstable. Her behavior has escalated over the last year. She was out of control screaming at the kids yesterday afternoon. Our new driver came in after the run and told our boss most were crying when they exited the bus. She has been grounded pending an investigation. This is not the first time I've been taken from another run to ride with the children she's treated so badly. I know all of these children, and they poured their hearts out to me. So I could only go in and recommend that this is beyond my expertise and they need to get the counsellor at school to have them all together with her and discuss their fears. These kids love me, and I saw the complete trust in their eyes when I told them she will never treat them this way again. Lord, what a shitty day. My friend will ride in my place tomorrow who the kids also love and trust. Can't wait to see them Friday. So hey, send a little prayer rays way that this procedure is fast and no skin grafts? Love you all!!!!
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cat, i got the giggles last night in bed, i was posting here in the dark, G was snoring in harmony with himself, his head hits the pillow and he is out cold, This bunch are in the go all the time, and they discourage partners from coming so I have to stay under wraps. Today I had a couple of phone calls G needed to take care of, by tonight, and saw him in the lobby, but he wouldn't stop. Aaaargh!!!! His work cell won't receive calls, He is supposed to get a new one. Now, I am not digesting my supper well. Maybe I will go out for a walk. Next time I come I maybe will get my own room!!!! Leaving to stay with my friend tomorrow thankfully.
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Glad you enjoyed it Sharyn. I do in the retelling, but at the time it was awful. Please take care -bronchitis/sinus will knock the dickens out of you. Chicken soup sounds good, and a good laugh always boosts the immune system. Enjoy the new 'puter.
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Sharynmarie: Get your rest and feel better soon.
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Joan: You are so funny. I hope you didn't jump the postman in your leopard patterned earrings and negligent. "Would you like to try some chutney, big boy?"

Glad you have recovered and enjoying your time in Toronto. Keep having fun!!!!

Love you, Cat
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Emjo~You made me laugh so hard I coughed up a lung, I am glad I bought some poise when I went to the store, Lol!!

Keeping away from mom this week cuz I have bronchitis/sinus infection and while my new computer was delivered today, I am as excited as I can be but my energy level is like a wet paper bag stuck to the side walk on a windy day...no chance it will fly in the wind, Lol!! Gonna go have some chicken noodle soup and take a nap. Have a good day everyone!!
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cat - great story!!! The church I went to as a child has a pump organ. Yes, glad for those who have a great bus driver - and great stories from the others -austin, jude... Dave my middle son knew the bus drivers so well, Once one of our dogs escaped- a husky cross who was the friendliest dog and an escape artist. The bus driver saw him (Mooch) around the block, picked him up and dropped him at our house telling me he knew it was Dave's dog. Once the bylaw officer, rather than giving us a ticket for Mooch digging under the fence and lying in the alley on the end of his chain, left us a note saying what a nice dog he was and would we please keep him in the yard.

jeanne so good to see you posting still. You have such valuable contributions,
austin you too, where's kimbee, book? pam, judy - u maniac! - punch, sharyn and everyone I have forgotten but not intentionally
I have been on another trip - 5 HTP which is supposed to help fibro, suppress appetite and help you be calm and sleep better - I wanted to eat everything that wasn't moving, became very emotional and anxious, and it did not help me sleep -sent G about 20 texts, and nearly broke up with him, and then got extremely horney -OMG u have no idea, and at my age!!! Almost worth it for that, though G was stuck off in the boondocks somewhere. Apparently I have no shame lol. As he said - "Timing is everything". I stopped taking them and within 24 hrs suddenly realised I had not been in my right mind, but was again. One benefit thoug, it did, in fact, bring up some feelings I needed to deal with, and I have. I apologised profusely to G who said he is going to burn all my pills. Toronto is snow-less thankfully, the pool and whirlpool are good, and I am relaxing. having a good time, Who ever thought 75 was going to be like this? Not me!
have a good one everyone - if I am giving TMI just let me know! Gotta have a little fun in life. ;)
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Emjo: Reminds me of my dad as a child in Wales. His father was a deacon in the church and on Sunday's my dad, age 7, would have to go to the church at 5 am to get the coal fire going to warm up the building. Then he would have to work the foot peddles to pump air into the organ during the service. One morning he fell asleep and the music stopped. My Uncle Trevor told me this over coffee and cookies when I visited him in Wales. Yep, not everyone had a beloved bus driver. Glad for those who do.
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I'm here in Toronto and I walked to school -wind, sleet, hail or snow -no days off, walked home for lunch, back again, sometimes crawled over the railway bridge (we walked to school along an old railway track) when it was too icy and looked between the ties seeing the cold cold water raging below. They made us tough in thse days! It was before the days of school buses, and no parents drove their kids to school -pardon me -once when it was 35 below

Lisa you are a marvel. love how u helped that little girl and her mother.

typing the the dark here - G has an early morning - ,more tomorrow Love and hugs J
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Thanks girls!
Austin, great memory. I love it when I see students thru ele and they see me at their middle school and holler, hey ms Lisa!! The feeling is indescribable.

Judy: boring? You????? Snicker snicker snort snort

Jeanne!!! Wonderful to hear your voice. I so love hearing wonderful memories from others who have lost loved ones. There dosen't one family gathering that I can remember that someone dosen't bring up memories of granny ford and grandma rose. So imma gonna share one bout granny ford. Doug and I went to the family reunion for the first time as a married couple. Granny ford used to walk the food line so she knew she had talked to and held the hand of every family member. She came to Doug and I and put a hand on each side of my face and said "honey, when will my next great grandchild be here?" my first reaction was embarrassment. Oh lord, my stomachs fat. Then dougs cousins started laughing and congratulating us. I just kept trying to explain to everyone thru the day. IM NOT PREGNANT. Went home, made the appt. I WAS PREGNANT. 7 weeks. We went to ray and marys that evening to tell them. Rays reaction? Well girl, mom told you a baby was coming. Still gives me the chills when I think of it.

There's my rambling thought. So glad yur here Jeanne. I hope you are doing well. Love all of you!!

Joan and everyone, where are you????
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Lisa you are making a great impression on your charges.
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Back in the early days of his dementia when Coy often couldn't remember how to find the bathroom or what we did last week he could remember events from childhood well. And one of the people he talked about was his kind school bus driver. Lisa, know that you are making an impression on these kids!
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Lisa: I'm so happy for Dallas. Awww, I can just see her little face beaming. Good job, Miss Lisa. Keep working your magic.

Austin: What a sweet and touching memory. That you remember their names says it all. Glad you had them in your life.

Judy: Blue eyes are never boring and neither are you.

Cat
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I took a city bus to school. Never had the opportunity to have a schoolbus driver. I did have one city bus driver though who always waited for me, if he saw me running to make the bus from down the street - he wouldn't just take off, or he'd wait if he didn't see me board, and ask other kids where "bright eyes" was. Sweet. I have no idea why he said that because I have boring blue eyes, but I loved it. Made me feel special. So, Lisa, you WILL be part of this little girl's nice memories. Lucky you.
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Lisa you are such a good person-way back when I was a kid we had a husband and wife bus driver team-only needed one bus then and I remember them so well for their kindness in those days there were no snow days and times when the buss got stuck in the snow we never were afraid because Mr. and Mrs. Latansey would take good care of us-Dallas will always remember you and your tender heart.
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Tooth fairy update: thank goodness I had the same run today. Sweet little Dallas face was shining this morning as she ran to the bus. WEARING HER TOOTH FAIRY NECKLACE!!! look ms Lisa. Then went on to tell me the tooth fairy broke it, but she fixed it and brought it back. Each and every child she showed it to had a look of relief on their faces.
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Lisa that was such a kind loving answer to the Mom-you rock girlfriend.
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