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Our local history theater put on The Buddy Holly Story and Coy absolutely adored it. We saw it twice! I hope you and G enjoy it that much, Joan!
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Joan, so glad you enjoyed your trip and were able to meet with your friends. I think Jeanne gave the perfect advice. You'll figure it out.
As you and cat saw on Facebook, I took Doug and Jen wine tasting. I learned a valuable lesson. Take them straight home and never stop at walmart first. Good grief! They had people laughing in the grocery aisles. Even explained to a few people they went wine tasting. They had such I fit of the giggles it was contagious. Then, oh good grief! Doug let fly with a fart. That caused even more laughter and he had to sit on the bottom shelf of the bake aisle. I was never so glad to get those two home. We brought the groceries in and the two of them were out on the couches within an hour.

Doug takes ray to get his stitches out tomorrow and have his forehead done. Dr assured us this one will be a piece of cake. One of the aunts called me around noon and asked me to come see her tomorrow. She's downsizing because her health is failing she feels. She wants me to have something of hers. I can't tell you how honored I feel to be included along with my sil's. She's 87 and as active as ray is. First we've heard she's in bad health. We see her at pil's at least once a week. So much death in the family in the last 3 years. So I'm going to get off here and call her daughter. Hope my Doug and jens antics put a smile on your faces. Be back in a while. Love ya, Lisa
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Jeanne - just waiting on G to figure out the best time. He doesn't know when holidays are at work and we want to make the best use of the time he has. The theatre is in Edmonton, so a 5 - 6 hr drive away. I have enjoyed every show I have been to at this dinner theatre. We will think of you and Coy when we go. ((((((hugs))))))))
Lisa - too funny about Jen and Doug! Love the scene in Walmart!!! Now you know! I'll tell you my grocery store fart story one day. Re wine tasting - we were very moderate - sipped a wine, bought a bottle for our hosts, sipped a little ice wine, and left. Never had it before, but it was good. We don't drink much. I like my calories in other forms. ;) Glad Ray's surgery etc. is going OK. Nice of the aunt to include you, but then why wouldn't she? You are so much part of that family. Yes, it put a smile on my face - thx. :-D Love ya too Joan
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Joan: I would love to be in your house and at the table when you are cooking!!!
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thx cat. You are welcome any time you want to brave the elements. Most of the time I do pretty well. The gluten and dairy free is a challenge when it comes to baking, but I made an acceptable pie the other day. Cakes are easier, and cookies and biscuits, but I wouldn't try bread. I think the moose will end up as stew, and maybe some soup. One great way to serve the more tender pieces of moose is to stir fry -with onions, green peppers and mushrooms, and a little white wine if you have it. G loves bean soup, and pea soup, and that is what I will use the ham bone for. I put lots of veg in bean or pea soup, and chunks of ham so it makes a meal. The cloves from the ham ( I glaze hams - cloves, mustard, brown sugar, pineapple juice and decorate with pineapple rings and cherries) give it a nice fragrance. Most of it is pretty basic G's mum is a good baker, but I gather she is not as good a meat cook. The first time i served G stew, he got a dreamy look in his eyes, and declared it was the best gravy he had ever tasted, A little red wine helps. Maybe time to try those dumplings. or make some latkes (potato pancakes) again. Does anyone make them?
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We often had potato pancakes for Sunday night supper, watching Lassie on tv, if I recall. I can remember Ma grating all those potatoes by hand. I make them sometimes and a food processor sure beats a hand grater! I don't think these are latkes, though. Latkes are my son's favorite item in a local deli and I've tasted his, but I don't like them as well as Ma's or mine. For one thing they are thicker.
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Jeanne, they sound like latkes to me. I hand grated them too, till I got a food processor, but hadn't made them in years. Grated potatoes, a little onion, some flour and an egg to hold them together, and fry in oil.till crispy outside. I was taught to soak up the moisture from the grated potatoes with an old tea towel kept for that purpose, before mixing with the other ingredients. G's family leave the moisture in. I do it my way. Serve with apple sauce, and/or sour cream. Watching Lassie sounds like fun too. G loves them. Maybe I'll make him some tomorrow night. Mine are fairly thin - sort of lacey even when fried.
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I read that the original latkes were made from root veg like turnip - may try it sometime. I press mine down when frying so they are thinner, and only use enough flour (cornstarch these days) and egg to hold the shredded potato together. Crispy on the outside, soft on the inside - yum!!! I think other variations are possible.
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Lisa I recently found this thread and have spent several days reading it. I was just fascinated how you have grown since the first thread just a few months ago. What a great bunch of ladies you have found on this thread, warm and supportive. I laughed out loud at times, especially at the KAW. At other times I had to quit reading while I had a quiet cry.
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I love potato pancakes!! My version is a little different but same results. I boil 1 large potato with jacket on. Cool it...then peel. I put it in the mixer with one grated raw potato, grated onion, salt, pepper and fresh rosemary. Mix it together. It makes about 6-7 pancakes. By cooking the potatoes with the jackets on, they are very starchy so no need for flour or egg. We like to top with a mixture of mayo and mustard...yummy!!!
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Vista bluffer, welcome new friend. Your right. Wonderful friends I have found here. I still have to sit back and just think of how far Doug myself and our girls have come. How at peace we are. I know there's another shit storm around the corner. With DQ it can't be any other way. So what brought you to this site?

KAW: ray had his forehead cancer recovered today. Piece of cake. Out by noon. So he asked Doug if he would take him to shop for marys Xmas. Soooo, more gifts here to wrap. I need to get started or I'll have to give them the bags they were packed in. I'm trying to plan Xmas eve where all my nieces and nephews will be out of here by 6 so we can bring ray and Mary over. No way can Mary handle that many. Last year she was okay with the crowd. I thought of having our day started earlier this year with a Xmas eve breakfast and we can all make the snacks together. It's been rough these past few years making sure they have plenty of gifts under the tree. One niece will take her teenage daughters to their dads and I'll have her come back over. Same with a nephew that comes for dinner every Thursday. They have absolutely no family to go to except us. The family has been kind enough to have us extend the surprise Xmas morning breakfast at ray and marys to include them. I'll get it figured out. I always do. I have that gut feeling again that mom is about to pull a shit storm blizzard by Xmas to ruin it for me. Last 2 I darn near packed all and headed to pil's. Hmmmm...not my problem, not my problem... Love you guys!
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Vista, welcome and please do tell us your story. It has been, and still is, quite a ride
sharyn - your potato pancake version sounds yummy too
(((((Lisa))))) another shit storm coming - you know it. As long as DQ is on this earth there will be another one. Glad Ray's surgery went well and he got to go shopping. One year I used red and white plastic Safeways bags, put the gifts in, tied them up and, literally, threw them under the tree. No one minded. I was exhausted that year and couldn't face the wrapping. I am old now so I just send money!.I am sure you will plan everything well. Sounds like quite a three ring circus. It is good of you to make special arrangements for Mary -she does need them. Xmas Eve breakfast sounds good. Great that your niece and nephew are included.
I know what you mean about that gut feeling that your mum is about to start flinging it around again, and Xmas would be the time. - For people like her - anything to get attention on her, and upset everyone else. .I think that is what got me yesterday - mother is just too calm about this upcoming move. I know the shit will hit the fan sometime, and Christmas will likely be one of the times. Today, she did give me her friend's phone number, so I can find out what is going on. Prepare yourself to keep your distance no matter what happens. At least she is not in your home now, so you can enjoy that.
cat - so much for my cooking. G called and has an evening meeting, so I haven't done much more to the moose, or the ham bone. They are well cooked, and will keep. I will do up some stew with the moose tonight so he has some to take with him tomorrow. Good enough!

Everyone -let us know how you are

Love and ((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))) Joan
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About wrapping presents: One year I shopped early and wrapped early. I wanted the pretty packages under the tree. But I didn't want the 4 kids to go poking around too much so instead of names I put number codes on the packages. Come Christmas Eve when it was time to put the real name tags on the presents I couldn't find the list of codes! The teenage girls are twins and the young boys are a year-and-a-half apart in age. So in many cases there were two identical gifts under the tree. I unwrapped a package to see who it was for. Well, it was for one of the boys but which one? Open another package. It was also a duplicate and didn't help be decode the numbers. Open another. Definitely a girl but it could be either. After several more tries I finally opened one that was for the older boy. Whew! So I now knew that code 321 was for Ian and code 863 was for Patrick, and I could rewrap the ones I opened and put the names on those numbered packages. A few more tries and I figured out that Bev was 437 and Barb was 912.

Do I need to say that I've never coded my gift packages again? Ho-ho-ho!
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Oh Jeanne - that made me laugh!
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My mother in law who was crippled and walked with a crutch, moved in with my family for several years when my sons were in high school. She was not mean or abusive, but she was a difficult person. Looking back it is even hard to name any of the things that she did that wore us all down so. It was never anything big, it was just a constant series of small irritating things that seemed petty to even mention. My husband was not supportive at all. When she annoyed him, he just walked out or ignored her. It was not that easy for me.

After she was with us a couple of years, we found out she had a brain tumor, and she passed away a year or so later. Of course then we all felt guilty about not being more understanding.

Years later, I had to assume responsibility for both my parents who had to go into the nursing home. They shared a room. Mother was bedridden and blind. Dad was more mobile but rather frail. They were great parents and once they turned things over to me, they never questioned a decision I made. Dad lived two and Mother five years after they went into the nursing home. During the last year of my mother's life, my older brother became ill and was in and out of the hospital and the nursing home. He had never been married so I had to assume his affairs also. While I never had to care for them physically, I had to take care of their financial affairs and make all their medical decisions. Some of those were very trying. I could have used a site like this at that time. I could have used a KAW group during that time.

My husband had asked for a divorce after 42 years of marriage and so I often felt very alone. My only sister had passed away years before and before my brother became ill, he was no help at all. But all that is for another time.

Thanks for letting me tell my story. It is mild compared to what some of you have gone through, but I know a caregiver's life is like minor surgery. Something is only minor when it happens to someone else.
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Jeannie, I originally thought you were on to something with the coding, however after reading your entire post I think I will not try it. We only buy for the Grandkids now as our own children made this decission so my husband and I live by their own decission, but there are times I wish I was still buying for my kids who are way past children. My baby just turned 30 this year. I think I will stop talking now.
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Hey Lisa, hope you're doing well. That deal about the nurse that got pranked is weird and sad. I'm watching the news right now about the shooting today. What a horrible and senseless tragedy. May all those beautful innocents RIP, and prayers and help for all the families and other people affected. It's just too sad for words to really express.
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Beanie: I agree, there are no words to express our grief at such another mass shooting and the little babies that were killed. The adults too. It's beyond horror.
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I am overwhelmed at the grief, collective and individual, that the families, friends, and colleagues affected by the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School are experiencing. They are at the beginning of a very difficult, and painful journey which will last the rest of their lives. God be with them, and may they feel His comfort.
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Very well said Joan!!
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That shooting was not far from us in CT it is so sad and especially for those little kids who witnessed it all-it is too sad for words-did not feel like going to a party today but I am on the kitchen crew so had to go and it was hard to listen to grips about us running out of coffee or the piece of cake did not have enough frosting on it after all those people were murdured-give me a break.
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wow..this is a great forum...my father, too , has always hated me..and yet i've always tried..now as a christian..i tried again...but after another abusive visit...i said enough is enough..now..my problem, as posted is...we cannot get him out of my mother's home..have had police 4 times this week; protective services..and they keep dumping him back in her home..she, of course at 80 ..won't leave..despite the abuse..2 days ago, he was out in his underwear screaming help...no one will help us...no one...so i'm grateful for everyone out there...God bless you all....
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thx sharyn

((((((((austin))))))) that would be hard -very hard

marylee - welcome - I am Christian too, and do not believe we have to stay and take abuse. Sounds like a very difficult situation. Have you contacted Social Services, and/or been able to talk to their doctor(s)? It sounds like something has to change. It does sound like APS is failing in their duty. Can you go up a level or two? Could you contact a lawyer who specializes in seniors issues - especially senior abuse? Wishing you some progress in this very difficult matter. ((((((hugs)))))
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thanks so much!! just had another call..ems there..everyday someone..and my mother is hysterical..my brother meets with the lawyer this week...as a christian..i have to say..this man..who has the name..father..is evil...thank God i've found him...i appreciate your answer..for your being there..for understanding..God bless you my friend..you put a light in my heart tonight..after crying again..trying to overcome the darkness
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((((((hugs)))))) marylee. There is a solution. This is heart breaking for you, know. I am glad your brother is going to a lawyer. Meanwhile know that you are right to separate yourself from your father. Be sure to look after yourself - you will be best able to help your mum if you are in good shape. Have you sought any counseling? A counsellor may have some ideas of how to best help your mum too. Your mum is a victim of abuse, and many find it hard to separate themselves from it. There is lots of information on the internet as to how to help someone leave an abusive situation. It may give you something positive toi concentrate on. I understand your feelings of helpessness. When I was young I used to separate my parents when they were fighting. It was horrible, and way too much for a child to do, but it did put an end to that session, though more always followed. In my case my mother was the more unbalanced one, though both bore responsibility for the fighting. Hang in there, keep looking for professionals to help, and let us know what happens. Prayers going your way. Joan
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thanks joan...i know..i can finally say abuse...i sought therapy for years..i know what i saw was wrong..i guess i enabled my mom..by always coming back to the house..to "save" her from him. last night ems and police did take him away..i was hysterical..but as of last month..i said ..i'm finished..and he never tried to call me...joan, i'm heading to church..to seek peace..and to pray this situation comes to an end..i'll say a prayer for you my friend..marylee
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(((((((marylee)))))) Don't you dare torment yourself for what you did or didn't do in the past - just learn from it. You have lived with abuse all your life, from the sound of it. I know that scene well. Therapy will still help. I go periodically, as things resurface, or new situations arise with my mother. Work on healing yourself. The situation can come to an end, Your mother can have a safe home. The healthier you get, the better you can deal with all of this, and be of help to her, and in the situation altogether. Thanks for the prayers. They are always welcome. More ((((((hugs))))) and prayers going your way. Breathe deep, Joan
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Hey, Marylee, I'm reading along, not really lurking, but not knowing what to say that would help either. (And, emjo always has such well thought out, comforting advice - I just love you, emjo!). But, I wanted you to know that you're on my mind and I'm hoping that you all find some peace. xx
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(((((((judy))))) love u 2
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Stay strong marylee. You can do this!!!!!
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