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My Mom had talked about making an apple cake for our holiday get together. She was unable to do anything regarding the food.



Three days ago she started to make an apple cake. She got as far as measuring the flour and everything else has sat on her counter for three days. She swears she will make this cake but I am wondering when. Next month? When the flour is too old? She keeps saying she is going to make this cake but I am skeptical. She is 92 years old and the flour, etc. has been sitting on her kitchen countertop for three days. The apples are going bad and I don't know what to do. My question is this: How do you make a family member realize that they are in denial with the things they want to do? They will not be able to do what they want to do? I am tired of this.

I think you just gently sidle up & make the cake together.
Or if cake making is not your thing, head to the shops & buy one together instead.

It was a nice gesture that Mom wanted to make you a cake. The idea just outstripped her skills.

Thank her for the gesture 🤗

PS If you can get the old TV series Mother and Son, have a look. S6. ep 5 'The Lamingtons' has just this problem!

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0651477/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk
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Your mother is not going to make the cake and you should put the ingredients away now. Her baking days are behind her. If you want to bake the apple cake with her, do that. Let her mix it and pour it in the cake pans. You will have to do the prep work and cleaning up though.

It sounds to me like she has dementia. Trying to make her realize that she's in denial about her independence level changing is not going to happen.
She needs help now. So get her some. If she lives alone get her some homecare that can help her cook and feel independent. The right home aide/companion can make all the difference in her life.

I worked in homecare for a long time. I remember with distinction one old Italian lady I worked for. She was about 90 and lived with her daughter's family. She had some dementia and mobility issues. She couldn't cook anymore like she did but she wanted to have things made when everyone got home from work and school.

I spent three afternoons a week "cooking" with her. I knew how to make the dishes and I'd do about 98% of the work and clean up while we drank coffee and spoke in Italian.
The right homecare aide can make all the difference. Try getting one for your mother. They will take her out too.
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Beatty Feb 7, 2024
So nicely described. This is exactly the description of what an 'Active Support Worker' does & how to do it well. Recognisong the person as an individual & assisting them with their goals.
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Don't try to make her understand. That would just be kind of hurtful and unnecessary. My mom has dementia and there are so many things she can't do but I just accept them. I would clear the ingredients - 3 days it a long time.

So, either start over and do it together or take her shopping to get a nice one from a bakery.
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Summernole Jan 30, 2024
She insist she is going to make it. If I put everything away she WILL know and will confront me.

I don't like to bake and the recipe is lengthy and I don't want to have to peel, core and shred three large apples. Sorry that this sounds selfish but that is the way it is with me. She is not fond of bakery cakes. She is old fashioned and feels they should be home made.
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Why don’t you suggest that she help you by selecting a dessert from a bakery?

Everything on your menu doesn’t have to be homemade. She doesn’t want to be left out. So give her choices that she can handle.

Perhaps, she was used to being needed by others and is grieving her loss of being able to participate.

Validate her feelings and don’t stress over these things. Look for compromises whenever you can. When they aren’t possible, suit yourself by making your own decisions.

Wishing you and your family all the best.
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I note you end above with "I am tired of this." It sounds as though things are getting quite a difficult for you and I think you'll get some good advice and support here.
As we age, I am 81, it can be very difficult to come to the terms with things that we can no longer do. Very, very difficult especially with regard to our families and kids. If you can help your mom with a slow, gentle realization of the things that she still *can* do, I think it will be very beneficial to her. If you haven't realized this already, it takes an immense amount of patience to deal with a parent as they age.
I'm not even going to talk about the patience required of ourselves as we age with bodies and brains rebelling and no longer following orders! :-)
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Summernole Jan 30, 2024
Well stated, Moondancer.
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How about asking her if she can "teach" you how to make the cake?
You do not give any info about mom. Does she have dementia? Or physical limitations? If she does have dementia you will not be able to convince her that she can no longer do cooking or cleaning like she did in the past.
You can help her navigate what she CAN do rather than focusing on what she can NOT do.
Give her tasks that she can do and things that if they get done, great but if they don't get done it is not a big deal. Like folding washcloths, pairing socks, cutting recipes out of the paper or a magazine.
If you are dealing with dementia it will not get better or easier.
Have you thought about hiring a caregiver to help out? Mom pays for the caregiver.
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Summernole Jan 30, 2024
I would say no to dementia but she does have memory problems. Physical problems with her back - absolutely. She does her own laundry for the most part. I don't think we are at a point where we need a caregiver. I am here. This is about the things she wants to do and then finds she cannot.
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She's obviously forgotten how to make her beloved apple cake, and I guess who can blame her? I mean she is 92. I'm sure her intentions were/are good but right now that's all they are....intentions.
So give your poor mom a break and either assist her in finishing the apple cake or tell her that next time you'll just take her to a nice bakery where she can just buy one.
She may never accept or understand that she can no longer do the things she used to, so it will be up to you now, to be the understanding and patient one, and just enjoy whatever time you may have left with your mom.
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At 92 it is amazing that she still wants to try.

She is beyond the understanding mindset, she is old and tired. You are expecting more than she has left to give.

I like Funky's idea let her buy a cake next time. I wouldn't make a big deal out of this, clean up the counter and forget about it.
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Summernole Jan 30, 2024
I'm not expecting more than she has left to give. SHE is expecting it. She doesn't like "store bought" cakes and wants to make it herself - but can't.
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I'll betcha SHE'S more tired of this than you are! Either go over there and help the woman make this Apple cake or help her clean up the counter. And next time she offers to make something for a get together, say no thank you, we have more food than we can possibly ever eat, rather than remind her what she's no longer capable of doing.
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If you clear away the ingredients without her seeing, she may not even remember there was a cake in progress.

Christmas 2022 was the last time I let my Mom make the Panettone without my close supervision. Her judgement is very off and a long ingredient and instruction list just messes her up. This year I made sure her grandson was there and he ran interference for me when she wound up about how to proof the yeast (she was totally wrong). Mostly I asked her to chop and cut and measure. It's bittersweet that she needs so much help now. It is what it is.

If your Mom mentions making the cake, find a reason to do it together.
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