Finding in-home care and who is responsible for paying the bills: health care proxy, poa, or any family members volunteers private funding?

Yes, you always sign you name and POA afterwards. The POA means that you are Moms representative and no way responsible for payments, mom is. And her Financial POA will pay that bill if she is incompetent to do so.

Glad you are getting some help. It can be difficult to navigate but try looking back at previous responses and refer to what attorney told you. Hopefully you took notes!

Financial POA would sign admission forms and checks. Medical POA would sign "consent to treat". Either way, you sign as POA, not as yourself and I would not expect to be held financially responsible. I would not pay, no way.

Are you in the middle of having someone placed? Are you POA?

This i am discovering is a great question to ask potential places when researching them and ask if you can review the forms prior as well as seek confirmation with your attorney. One place I really like told me the POA signs admission forms.

A second told me the POA signs the admission forms related to finances and the HCP signs the form "consent to treat." I asked the second place to send me a copy of the forms to reivew prior. They refused to but told me they might in the future if a bed opens up. To me, this is bad sign they will not allow me to review forms well in advanced. Has anyone else had similiar experiences and also asked this question?

I pulled up an online generic "consent to treat form." It however also contains a statement holding the signer accountable for any treatments insurance does not pay. In the past, when signing admission form for short-term physical rehab, I crossed it out and stated something to the effect "does not approve any treatments medical insurance does not cover and is not medically necessary." The rehab place was ok with this.

I have an elder attorney. Unfortunately, during the holidays we keep missing each other. She is now out sick. Thank you to all the people who respond kindly for serving as backup during this time.

When my mom had private in home care privately paid for, the POA signed the checks.

We all (family members with HC POA)found the agency.

I am sorry that we are being so blunt but we have explained this to you and you saw a lawyer. You are responsible for nothing but making sure Moms wishes in her MPOA are carried out. Its you who talks to her doctors and nurses. If a situation comes up that is not covered in the POA you make the decision on the info given, what u think Mom would want or her age.

The FPOA pays the bills out of the principles money. If there is no money then Medicaid is applied for. The FPOA nor the MPO pay out of their own pockets. No family members should be asked to foot the bill. If principle is placed in care with Medicaid paying, their SS and pension will go towards their care. A Personal Needs Acct will be set up with a small amt of their SS deposited. This can be used for personal items needed.

Until the principle is incompetent to have no say anyway. As Alva says, FPOA trumps a MPOA. Their responsibilities are much broader.

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You asked a somewhat similar question back in October and got a lot of answers.

As you were told then, the person with POA pays the bills out of the principle's assets/income. If many hours of in-home care are needed, it's generally way more costly than facility care and the funds will run out much faster unless the person is very wealthy.

The FPoA is responsible (once the criteria for activating that authority has been met, and this is outlined in the PoA documents themselves).

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A legal guardian (assigned through the courts or a pre-need guardianship procedure).

The money for paying the bills comes out of the agent's (principle's) finances. It should never come from "family members volunteers private funding" unless those people have millions of dollars because care is expensive and who knows how long the person in need will actually live.

As I have told you many more times than once, D., the POA as in GENERAL POA who is the "bill payer, if you will and the decision maker about placement if you will, is under most circumstances what George Bush would call "the decider". His or her POA usually "trumps" a MPOA.

We have told you also, since you seem still to hold the MPOA, that we suggest you consult an attorney as regards your rights and duties.

We love you, but the reposting of this question every week isn't going to help you.

I think few of us here have a relative who made such bad decisions as to have ONE sibling created General POA and the OTHER sibling created MPOA. So I would bet asking us once again "What is your experience " won't find any of us who have had that experience.

Happy New Year out to you. Continued wishes for the year ongoing.