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Leena, as sad and unfortunate as it is, your grandpa has become a burden to your grandma.

I would ask your parents to get grandma some help, even if she says she doesn't want or need it. Her behavior shows she does.

Taking care of another human being is hard. It is more than one person can handle and grandma is slipping her knot and being abusive. Time for their child to intervene.

Please speak with your parents about getting her some help and getting grandpa some meds to help him be more emotionally stable.

Losing our elder loved ones is part of life but, it is really hard to experience, especially the 1st time.

Love him the best way you can, he probably understands more then he can tell you.
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Hi Leena. Thank you for sharing your experience. Your question is a difficult one to answer and truly tugs at the heart. It sounds like you love your grandpa very much and he must be very proud of you being a full-time university student and working part-time.

Losing someone you love dearly is never easy. Sometimes, we lose loved ones unexpectedly, leaving no opportunity to spend time with them to do all of the things we wish we had did, if we knew they would be gone.

As difficult as it is for you to see your grandfather in his current state, you have the opportunity to just hold his hands, be with him, and talk with him before it's too late. Make him laugh, share stories with him that reminds him how special you are and how much you love him as your grandfather. Your love for him is strong and of course you do not wish to see him suffering, but you will certainly regret not spending time with him at this time. Showing your grandmother your love for him might also help her understand that his conditions were not his choice.

Ultimately, you have to decide if you want to be by his side or not for the remainder of his life . But no matter what you decide to do, your decision will always be the right one, as it is yours and only yours to make.

Be strong.
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Before everyone keeps piling on Leena remember, we were all young once too and I doubt any of us were as perfect as we seem to believe we were. I get that this post pushes buttons for a lot of us, but let's be careful not to project our own negative family history onto the OP.
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Tagtae Dec 2022
I agree with you and I'm afraid I answered too fast and harsh. Our own history and experience is how we have suggestions and opinions. I'm not saying she is wrong for these feelings I too didn't want to be in the hospital room with hubby at first. Too much overwhelming emotions.

My cousins was not much older than this young lady as they watched their father fight and suffer for 5 yrs with bladder cancer, in and out of hospitals monthly. Lots of pain. This was their first experience with the death side of life. They were there. Yes, they went about their life job school but they were there. They held their father's hand as he took his last breath and their mother was holding him in her arms. What's cool she got a tattoo on her side where he was laying as he past. A flower that represented him.

Im proud of this young lady for reaching out for guidance. It's very scary to ask to help. She is not running or hiding her emotions and she knows she is having trouble. I certainly hope she finds something that gives her strength and peace.
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Ask yourself "Is this about me and my feelings, or about making Grandpa happy to have some company and taking some of the burden of his care off Grandma?"

Imagine how hard it must be for him to know how much he's declined and that his own family can't bear to be around and resents him. The best thing you can do is show him that you love him no matter what state he's in.
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Leena13 Dec 2022
He knows I would never resent him and neither will my family. My grandma however has grown to resent him due to her own life having to be changed and I can’t blame her for that. We have tried to get them both some in home care which they have declined which just makes it harder to help. Thank you for your reply!
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Ok, I am struggling to answer this question in a calm way and that is helpful. As humans I believe we are suppose to build each other up not tear each other down. I will never devalue the pain in watching a love one decline. Watching hubby decline from stroke is heart wrenching. And yes the first time dealing with this part of life is very hard. Thank you reaching out for guidance, it was the best thing you could do.

(Ok, the question what should you do?
Put on your big girl panties, pull yourself by your boot straps and get in there!)


you grandma is old and tired and as hard as it is for you to see grandpa she is seeing the same thing and her pain is worse. This is her husband, her life mate. This is source of her cruel behavior. Help her out! With more help she just might get nicer. What about your parents are they helping? They should be if not and tell them so, loudly. Imagine what your grandfather is thinking. Why doesn’t my grand daughter want to see me?

when hubby had stroke I begged his youngest daughter to visit even offered to pay plane ticket. I thought me and her had good relationship, she had an CNA, worked in nursing home/rehab and ERs. She told me one of the reasons for not visiting was cause she didn’t want to see daddy like that. The words I wanted to tell her is not allow on this forum. I’ll never forget or forgive her for that. It’s been 10 yrs since we seen her all because the stroke that destroyed her father was too hard on her. Completely selfish and cruel.
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Leena13 Dec 2022
thank you so much for your reply! As someone who is also in the medical field i can see why your daughter may have been scared to see her father that way. I have worked with paramedics before and shadowed some nurses and as much as I could be there for the patients we would encounter if it was my family I would completely break down. I can’t say I agree with her choice to not come and see her father but I can somewhat see why she may have been afraid. I think for me as I mentioned above it was a hard hit as my grandpa is my hero. He had all the answers and knew how to fix everything from any toy I broke and spent hours crying over to any math problem I couldn’t solve. I think seeing him this way forces me to acknowledge what I’ve been in denial about. I am sorry you went through all that and I’m sure your daughter has her regrets too. Your feelings towards her are very valid too I don’t know how I’d react if my kid did that. Just thought I’d share how my thought process has been in hopes maybe you could see her side even if you’re not ready to forgive her. Thank you once again for your reply I really appreciate it.
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Leena,

I understand that this is the hard stuff of life, but it's time to cowgirl up and spend the time with your grandpa that you may later regret not spending with him. I recall that when I lost the first of my beloved grandparents, it was my granddad, dying of cancer; I had a very hard time facing his mortality. And I was a nurse and an aid before that, still had a hard time of it.

One thing that may help you is to talk to your parent(s) about the behaviors of your grandmother - whose brain is also 'broken' from the ravages of aging and dementia. It may be that their POA needs to step in and get her some help or even see that it's time to have them both placed in an elder care facility. She is suffering and none of us come into any difficult stage of life with the full set of tools required to pass through these life stages with complete grace.

Maybe you can make some family inquiries and facilitate some positive changes for both of your grandparents.

Regardless, spend the time with your grandpa that you are able to and tell him all of the ways that you love and honor him. Do not be afraid of speaking with him about his mortality; he's staring it in the face every day. He may be able to guide you and help you because he's lived long and gained the wisdom to share this with you.

You might also wish to spend some time online exploring the grieving process - that is what you're experiencing: anticipatory grief, and insight is helpful.

Take the time now to say everything that you wish your grandpa to know about your love and appreciation of him, tell him how much he means to you and don't hide your tears from him. He already knows.

*Hugs*
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Leena13 Dec 2022
Thank you so much! I have tried to get them some at home care as I’m worried for their health. As my grandma cannot handle lifting and taking care of my grandpa alone and I’m worried both of them will get hurt. However unfortunately my grandma and grandpa do not want a nurse around. I’m trying to help from afar but in this case my hands are tied. I will look into anticipatory grief for sure thank you so much! Coming from a family that sees me as the strong one I’m afraid to break down in front of them as I worry about how that’ll affect the others. I do want to show him how much he means to me but I think I just struggle to convey that.
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Guess what, it breaks everyone else's hearts to see their loved ones "that way" too, but maturity means sometimes we end up doing stuff that is difficult and painful. Figure out things you can still do together, get some oversized cards and play some games, bring him a special treat (coffee and a doughnut?) and share it with him, or bring in a take out meal for all of you to enjoy. If he can't be left alone and needs a sitter do your studying there so your grandmother can go out - no need to make conversation at all. Just little things that can make a big difference.
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Leena13 Dec 2022
Thank you for your reply I really appreciate it!
I realized I can’t edit my original post but I also wanted to add that I am also suggested to stay away from him due to the fear of passing on any illnesses as my job does require me to interact with hundreds of people everyday. Due to that the past few years I did have to only say hi from the door to his room. I do try to do little activities with him here and there unfortunately he has gotten to the point of very low mobility and is not able to participate in much I still get him little treats every time I go out. I know he is also very sad about his situation as he cries about the past a lot. I think my hardest part is seeing the grandpa I grew up looking at as very stern and strong break down. But you’re right it’s not just me who is struggling to see a loved one suffering. Thank you for your reply I really did need to hear this.
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Dear Leena, it’s hard to cope with this when you are young and very busy, but here are some suggestions – practical but I hope not too harsh.

You are thinking too much about yourself, your emotions, your past experiences, your own sorrow, and your ‘guilt’. Stop. Just view this as something you need to do, for a reason – like organising your time to do an assignment, and getting it in on time. Your reason to visit is to feel that you have done the right thing, and that if possible it has given a little pleasure to your grandfather.

Decide how much time you can give – 15 minutes once a week? Just ‘spending time with him’ is not the point, and it won’t relive the past good times.

My suggestion (based on experience) is to go, sit in a chair beside his bed, hold his hand (stroke or little squeezes too), and talk to him so he hears your voice. Don’t expect him to answer, just hope he knows you are there. You can talk about your own life, or your memories of things you did with him in the past. At one point with my FIL, I read to him poetry that he learned in school. It was an old six bed ward, and some of the other old guys were straining to hear it too, because it was also part of their own childhoods! Then give him a kiss on the cheek, and walk out. Feel good that you have done what you could to help, as well as feeling the sadness of it all. It's hard, but you can cope!

Very best wishes, Margaret
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MargaretMcKen Dec 2022
I've read the posts suggesting that you take a hand in organising care for your grandfather. Don't. You are too young, too busy, have no rights or power to intervene, and will get up everyone else's nose if you try to.
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I'm sorry you're in such a difficult position Leena, my heart goes out to you. I'm not sure dealing with the death of a loved one ever gets easy, but the first time we have to encounter such a thing is definitely VERY hard. I don't think you should feel selfish or horrible that you don't want to spend all your spare time with grandpa, especially since it's stressful watching grandma mistreat him. Perhaps you can offer to relieve grandma for a little while and take over FOR her; sit with grandpa and give her a rest once in a while. That will allow you to sit with him, undisturbed by her ugly behavior, and also give her a bit of a break. Just hold his hand and even if he's not very responsive, chances are good he'll know you're there.

Is hospice on board to help grandpa stay comfortable during his end of life journey? I know that helps ME when hospice is there to keep my loved ones pain free and anxiety free so I know they're not suffering.

Remember that you've already spent a lot of quality time with your grandfather since you've been living together, and those are the moments you should focus on. If it upsets you to see him in this deteriorated condition, limit the time you DO spend with him and read him a book so you can focus on the words on the page instead of on his face. I know how hard this whole scenario is, so I'm sending you a hug and a prayer for you to find acceptance with his ultimate passing. It has always helped me to know that once my parents passed, they were free of their wheelchairs and bodily limitations and able to run and dance free again w/o pain or misery of any kind.
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Leena13 Dec 2022
The last part really helped. I really hope he is able to go feel free from this because I know how much it has impacted him to be tied down to a wheelchair so suddenly. Thank you so much for your reply that means a lot.
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I feel for you and your family. My first thought is that your grandmother seems to be burnt out, and could use a break herself. Maybe talk with your parents about getting grandmother some help or looking into other arrangements? This arrangement doesnt seem to be working for her. As for your grandfather, spending time with him doesn't have to be lengthy. If you feel up to it perhaps a hello, a hand on the shoulder. Let him know you're there, so he feels loved. Since you live in the same house you are in a position where you can spend just a couple minutes here and there, in small doses. You've got a busy life and more power to you for attending university and working! You can feel proud of yourself! Your feelings about grandfather seem like grief to me, seeing him change right before your eyes is hard to watch. I think I would feel the same way. Take heart and just know that grandfather may not even remember you visited him, but will remember how you make him feel, even if just for a few minutes at a time. Best wishes.
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