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Mom has just started using a walker, and as I said I ordered her a "bag" for it.. but I have to laugh at your description! Because I I see whats coming... When we take my 85 LB mom to the casino.. she wears a huge fanny pack with her money, IDs, who knows what else. Then ON top of that she wears a dangling clutch with 2 packs of cigs and 2 lighters... I swear it weighs 10 LBS. I get by with a tiny 5 x 5 thing that goes over my shoulder.. LOL. Save me now!
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Personal opinion here but...
Walkers are poorly designed. They are designed to make one bend over. I have seen one on TV recently, you know those ad that come on on the "odd" channel, or late at night. Anyway this was for an upright walker. The handles were more forward, the handles were up higher. Looks like it would be better posture and being able to focus on what is in front of you rather than what is almost under your feet.
Look for Up Right walker or Walker with Forearm support I am sure you will find what I am talking about. Makes more sense to me to be in a good standing position.
About the "stuff" in the basket or pockets...isn't that one of the reasons women carry purses? I do not carry one, if it will not fit in a wallet I don't need it! But I see some of the stuff friends pull out of theirs and it boggles my mind. Not to mention how heavy a purse is.
A hint for you about the touching up of doors, walls...I gave up on that figured it was a lost cause. What I did do is got Pool Noodles and I also picked up some Pipe Insulation. I used pool noodles on the back support bars on the wheelchair so my Husband would not feel the bar across his back. I used a pool noodle on the under edge of the table so he would not bump his legs into the skirt on the table. I used pipe insulation on the legs of the walker so if he bumped into anything it would be cushioned a bit, I could have used the pool noodle there as well but the pipe insulation was black so it did not stand out. I also used pool noodles on the edge of the over the bed table so he could easily grasp it but it would also prevent him from pulling things off the table easily, I could grab what he was pulling in case of spillage.
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If person has ALZ they lose their peheriphal vision so they keep looking down with their arms outstretched to see the ground; or they can have other vision issues.  My Mom also picks hers up instead of using it on the ground but more often than not, she tries to get away with not using walker at all - says she doesn't want to depend on it, doesn't need it, doesn't want to look old by using it, etc. She has 2 rollators but physical therapist said she would be more steady with plain walker. I don't know how to answer about the cath bag hanging, maybe can make something to cover it up.
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Thanks, all who responded.

I am fully aware this is not a problem I can solve, nor even help with. I think for me, it's the decline in mother and her crazy desire for constant attention that gets to me. Walking along with her cath bag "on display" is gross to anyone. B/C, wow, does it get the sympathy vote. It's embarassing when in a restaurant and other diners ask to be seated elsewhere b/c, really? they shouldn't have to sit 5 feet from a half filled stinky catheter bag. She's never noticed that this happens, thank goodness.

She's chronically messy, just a little hoarder--always has been, she just needs to carry her whole world everywhere she goes.

7again-I did not mean to offend anyone. I KNOW how much mother hurts and how hard it is for her to get through a day, and I am not hard hearted about this. It's just so messy looking and NOT organized--that's my bugaboo. She'll carry several totes that are almost carbon copies of each other. If she would let me clean just a little--it wouldn't smell so awful and she wouldn't be complaining of how hard it is to get the walker moving. She's dragging 30 lbs of junk everywhere she goes.

My daughter can make the decision if she wants to take the kids to see mother. Mother hasn't seen her baby yet, but quite honestly, she doesn't even know the names of all the great grands....K could skip a visit and mom wouldn't even care.
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LOL MidKid,

Hang in there! My mom is the same age - this generation who were so young in the depression years seem programmed to hang on to every little thing. Those of us raised with relative abundance (or overabundance in some ways) seem more inclined to avoid accumulation. But it is HARD to watch it, especially when a catheter bag is involved OMG!

Jane
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MidKid,

All I have to say is, DITTO here with the walker and my mom! So funny! Thanks for the laugh.
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Interesting perspectives from the other side of the fence. Now one from my side of the fence: Legs don't function well anymore, so every step is hard work. Even getting into bed and getting out of bed is a workout. Not having something at hand means an exhausting and painful trip to get it and get back. Trash is put wherever convenient so as to avoid extra trips. Walker is out in front of me, so of course I lean forward to balance. Balancing is extremely hard work, so of course I run into things. Our house is full of scrapes from my wheelchair, which I use to get around when I'm really tired. I rounded off the corners of our coffee table to the point we had to get rid of it. I don't have a colostomy bag, but even just the thought of having one would put me over the edge. I could go on and on, but you get the point. It is very very hard to get old, so give your loved ones some credit for what they are going through.
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MidKid, what a great vent post! It’s so hard to want better for someone than they want for themselves. I’m replying to represent the man with rollator. My dad’s rollator is his constant companion. It started as an aide and has morphed into something he’s literally never away from unless in bed. We had it adjusted at the medical supply store so he wouldn’t hunch over, and he didn’t for a long time, but now he’s doing it. He calls the storage compartment his “filing cabinet” It holds cough drops, mints, and whatever list or paperwork he’s currently using. Nowhere near like the mess you and others describe and he does clean it out. So I’ll count my blessings on that
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I’m laughing and empathizing at the same time! I’m a caregiver for my mom (89) and I have the same issue with her bed. Full of napkins, and bags with the same things on them—pencils, Kleenex, wet wipes, books, magazines, etc. , etc. she says she’s using the bags to “stay organized and have everything close at hand.” The problem is she forgets she has the bag of stuff and she starts a new bag. I get it. I swipe napkins and kleenexes when she’s not looking, or asleep or taking a shower.

I think to some extent you you need to let the chips fall—as you said. Kids are often scared of older people, I found. I know when we’d go to visit my great aunt in assisted living, everyone kept trying to touch my little girl’s curly hair. Your mom’s bags and catheter bag is not a reflection of the care she’s getting or of you. That being said, I’ll bet there are some cute printed catheter bag covers on Etsy.

Take me a breath. Good luck. (:
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I'm feeling better finding others out there with the same thing going on.

I like the concept that she might feel like she's carrying her "comfort zone" around with her. She's a bit of a hoarder, so that mentality is there in full force.

My biggest "ick" issue is the cath bag. She smells very strongly of old urine..despite the best that can be done with her laundry (she still does her own and has ruined my SIL's washer/dryer a couple of times simply due to the smell--) I know she's not using appropriate soap and rinses..and she also doesn't take the bathroom trash out but once a week--so the sopping wet pads and depends get pretty rank. The actual cath bag--she isn't capable of cleaning that properly, so she has almost constant UTI's. WHY she walks around with that thing either dragging on the floor behind her or hanging off her walker is beyond me.

I wish she'd use the rollator more, but she says that's for "laundry". It's a LOT more stable than the aluminum one, for sure.

She lives in an apt. in my brother's home. He chose to keep her there and along with that he feels that he is her guardian, so he doesn't even like people to visit her. I go when I KNOW he's at work. I am not really "allowed" to do anything for her, he gets so angry.

I'm really thinking of creating a wraparound type of bag that would have small pockets for specific things, like her phone (joke is, she cannot use it) ONE place for new tissues and ONE place for used. A plastic lined pocket for the inevitable doggy bag from the restaurant, a small purse she can just lift off....my mind's whirling.

Why does stuff like that BOTHER me so? Probably b/c I see myself in 30 years being exactly the same and my kids hassling me about the same things.
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When the Viking was trying to escape her facility early on, she would tie her shoes to her walker, and pile whatever clothes she could atop the center bar

prior to that, many a earring got tossed out in that wadded up piece of Kleenex in her purse and forgetting to check her pockets for tissue before washing was always a fun mess to clean up after the spin cycle
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To begin with I love reading your posts. You always have a great and funny remark to the situation.

Men have not been in the habit of spending years carrying a purse. Therefore the stash of useless paraphernalia is not programmed in them.

My mother too has the mentioned lots of Kleenex in various forms but never in a pack. My theory is that a Kleenex is often needed and there isn't the memory of all that exist in the purse or walker. And that piece of gum might want to be re chewed!!

I think of the Walker as an aged, over sized security blanket. Their mini home away from home. Sort of a large lovey with lots of pockets. My mother has it down after I've seen her. Anything that fits in the seated compartment goes in there. A large package of incontinent briefs go on top. Clean laundry, magazines etc. Are hung in a bag on the side. Why would this efficient mode of transporting items want to be given up. On those occasions the support it provides is secondary.

Regarding the posture I make sure it is set at the right height and have her test it out. My mother had been a dancer many years ago (though it's hard to imagine that now from her appearance) so she has a memory still to a degree of it.

Sadly my mother was doing well using a cane before a fall last summer. Now the Walker is always present. And of course there is no place with a cane for endless tissues!
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I was going to comment with "useful" suggestions but as you all just described me with my walker. I might just keep my mouth shut.
At least I don't hoard garbage in mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ah, I knew I wasn't alone.

She has seen a couple of pics of herself. Always shocks her. But not enough to continue her PT and making the effort to work at being upright. I do not want to make her feel bad, not at all. I actually really want to help her to live a much cleaner, better life. Failing on all counts.

Taking her out to eat is a sight. Poor thing, her chin is resting practically on the table. I can get her to cover the cath bag when we go out in public, pretty much. I am not her primary chauffeur anyway, so that's good. Weirdly, she seems proud of the fact she's got that permanent catheter. Not that you can't smell it from 30 feet away--maybe she wants people to have sympathy or something. I don't know.

Maybe I will work on some kind of one piece wraparound "holder" that could incorporate all the stuff she "needs" and in an organized fashion. AND it MUST be washable.

I'm pretty craft--wonder what I could create? Someday I'll be on Shark Tank trying to sell my amazing catheter carrier :) Gotta smile, b/c being upset is not helping.

Again--WHY DO I SEE ZERO MEN HAULING THEIR WHOLE LIVES AROUND WITH THEM IN A WALKER? Maybe their wives are doing it. I am baffled.
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No, Cwillie, Just no.. you are a bad bad friend... LOL
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Pamz, some of these definitely look like they could handle a wine glass:

https://www.amazon.com/cup-holder-walkers/s?k=cup+holder+for+walkers
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Now you tell me,, I literally just ordered my mom a bag for her walker... she wants it to carry her book in... No Mom, they don't make wine glass holders..
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Same with my mom. I keep telling her to step in close but two steps on she's all bent over again.

You can try getting a smaller walker. That helped with grandma. A shorter walker will naturally force them to stand closer since even stand in it, there hands are pretty far down. Many adult sized walkers are too big for shorter people.
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My mom always has the Walker way out in front of her despite lots of PT showing her how to use it safely. She also lifts it into the air if she wants to turn round. As for the caddy on the front that’s full of used hankies, half sucked sweets, and heaven knows what else. Gross!
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Midkid,
You have my full support.
o m g . Can you take a picture and show her?
Or would that be cruel, even if that would not be your intention?
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