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Recalling how short my answers used to be....when I was younger.
This thread is great because what's ON MY MIND is different than what is on everybody else's mind.
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cwillie, I think the fear of not being able to work played in the migrant workers here too. They really seemed surprised to find out they could stay in the migrant worker quarters and the community would provide food and other supplies until they are CV negative. One farm lost a fair amount of money when they had to shutdown strawberry harvesting but others were planting tomatoes and other veggies . No farmer likes planting delays but delaying one planting by a few days doesn't cause too many problems.
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The commentary I've read/heard implies that some of the workers hid symptoms because they were afraid of being excluded from travelling here or being sent home after they arrived, since there is very low community spread in those regions that makes sense to me. I wish we treated these people better, but that is a whole other topic.
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cw - I read that in the news. I'm not convinced that 14 days is always enough. All it takes is one of a group to incubate longer than that and you can get a flare up of infections, That's one of the hallmarks of this virus. It is so very infectious.

I had a property maintenance guy come to assess my gardens for a job, I said right away "6' " but had to keep backing up as he didn't observe it, nor did he seem the least bit concerned about maintaining it. I think I will give the company some feedback. I know outdoors is safer but...

Add to the heat and warmer climate, sunlight doesn't do it either. The wavelength UV-C (which does kill most viruses etc) emitted by the sun is stopped by the ozone later before it gets to us.
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We have had major outbreaks among migrant farm workers here as well (Ont Canada), this despite them having been quarantined for two weeks after their arrival and efforts made to increase personal space and safety in their bunkhouses. The horrifying thing is that some of these reasonably healthy men have become severely ill and even died, a stark reminder that it's not always the old and frail who suffer the worst effects.
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From NE TN, travel still seems to be the major threat here. After weeks of 0-2 cases a week in the 8 county area, we experienced 46 new cases in one week across 2 counties, all related to migrant farm workers. Farms have started requiring workers to get a free CV testing now before starting to work. We're expecting more infections as the college kids come back into town in the fall.

Some of us are very concerned about CV spread from the protesters who don't seem to care about social distancing or good hygiene at all. Although most of the crowd here is local (90-95%) there are or have been out of town organizers.

After a week of completely peaceful protests, the outside organizers came up from Nashville to encourage blocking approaches to the area trauma center and were apparently surprised to be arrested when they refused to obey law enforcement directions to move to the sidewalks or parking lots. After bricks were placed at corners in the downtown, the outsiders were uncomfortable with downtown business owners sitting at a table in their window displays with a firearm and coffee cup visible on the table top. LE advised the outsiders' stated intention to take their bricks out of the downtown and business districts (where LE maintained a over-watch presence) to more rural areas would probably not work out well since our area is highly populated with armed homeowners and former military who would call for LE but could be counted on to handle any threat to their families promptly. The outsiders moved on (back to Nashville?) and the protests have continued peacefully without any additional arrests. Never more than at any time in my life, I thank the Lord I am living in a rural community without major crime or racial problems. Where even if we don't like what you're saying/doing, if you're not harming anyone we let it go.

I'm praying the violence ends while peaceful protests and police reform talks return to our country soon. I feel such sorrow for the defender deaths, property owners with looted or burned out shells, and people who must now live in destroyed areas without basics like grocery stores and pharmacies. If a mob has looted and burned your local CVS, how safe can you feel in your nearby home? It's hard not to feel 2020 is (to paraphrase the Queen) a horrible year - and its not even half over yet.
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Ah, I see. I was kind of surprised to see it coming from you...
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We are all living in one big Petri dish.

CW, it was a cynical question.
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Nobody credible ever said covid19 was killed by heat or a warmer climate, the virus has already spread rapidly in every corner of the world regardless of the climate or season.
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If covid is killed by heat, then why the sudden surges in Florida, Arizona and Houston? Result of protests?
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I think as with most things it will not be all or nothing with police funding, policing policies etc. Things will change.....for a while.

Remember after 9 11? It was mayhem and then it wasn't. Until the next terrorist attack. Same with this. Some changes will be made and then something else big will happen. I mean look how fast the covid headlines became police protests headlines.
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We will finally get to see our daughter and SIL on Father's Day when they come over with crabs! Haven't seen them since February 29! 💞
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Our Governor announced today LTC facilities here in TN can restart limited visitation on Jun 15. The county has to have a low infection rate, the facility cannot have had an infection among staff or residents in the last 28 days, facility must be complying with weekly testing requirements, visits only by appointment only in either (a) open window or an outdoor area with social distancing, (b) an indoor visitation room (isolated from resident rooms) with social distancing, or (c) in room visits only for residents physically unable to visit in a or b. Visitors must be screened and are encouraged to have been tested; facilities are allowed to require visitors to have had recent testing but the state is not.

I hope this kind of opening comes to your state soon! I'm also praying no one schedules a visit knowing they are at high risk of infection. I think the guidelines are a good balance between keeping residents safe and allowing visitors - just sorry it took so long to get here!
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Lilhelp, I agree. I feel that the ultimate goal of the current movement is to defund the police in the name of justice and equality. It will be scary if that happens. I support equality and accountability, but I don't believe underneath the mob rhetoric that that's even what it's about...and I also believe that lots of people are blindly following not even knowing what they're fighting for.
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Things have obviously reached a new level of absurdity to hear defund or abolish the police as their new rant, demand.  A few bad actors in any area does not mean all are bad.  If companies, government, others keep caving into these idiotic mob demands, we're all in for the worst things we may ever see.  God help us ...
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Isthisrealyreal, It's not your bad.  I didn't mean to fault anything you said.  Agree with you!  They are acting like animals ~ worse!  Hogs! great one!  Yeah!  :)

I just thought 'most' animals are above these criminals because most animals don't know any better.   

What a shame to have to impose a curfew because of that insanity.  I hope it's not too bad in your city.
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Lilhelp, I was thinking of hogs that devour anything that is in front of them when I made the animal reference. My bad, I was trying to be less offensive in my description.

We get to enjoy a curfew in our city because of the crazy nonsense.

I agree with you. I think that any excuse works when you are looking for one, whether it has any merit or not.
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Isthisrealyreal, I hear you.  I believe animals more often behave better, so wouldn't say these criminals deserve that distinction. 
Rebuilding, however, should never happen! on anyone's dime, but those that destroyed them!  Every business, police station, police cars, etc. in any of those areas destroyed should remain as they are now ~ Gone!  in ashes, burnt to the ground, broken windows, graffiti, trash everywhere, emptied out, boarded up and all those communities live in the disasters they created with their own hideous actions!  All have gone through more than enough with corona ~ and now this?!  No.

We're always hearing the whining that no one should be painted with a broad brush, yet that's what we're seeing much of the time!  I.e., All police are bad, racist; all whites are racists; all laws are against one group of color, 'they did that cause of my color/gender,' etc. and on and on ~ No!  We have to say No.  No one's boo boo ever gets well if one keeps tearing the long old scap off and picking at it.  And no one learns to behave as an adult in civilized society if they're constantly indulged and given excuses for bad behavior.  It's way past time for all these people to Grow Up, put their big girl/boy pants on, stop making excuses for their own bad, uncivilized, criminal behavior, and either be a part of and contributing positive things to our society or face the same consequences we all do.  Otherwise, it will never end.  We have to say ~ Enough!
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Lilhelp, the crazy thing is that the looters and arsonists will have brand new neighborhoods as a result of their out of control behavior. A lot of it paid by the rest of us through taxes because many insurance policies have disclaimers that void coverage for vandalism.

I lived through the Rodney king riots in west Hollywood, it was the most insane thing that you can imagine. It was like living in a war zone. I couldn't leave my office without an armed escort. National guard posted on every corner, windows boarded up, buildings burnt to the ground, and that's just what I saw on the trip home.

I am sorry but ALL LIVES matter and when anyone starts justifying complete destruction of another to prove a point they are complete and total animals. Since when do we, as HUMAN BEINGS, run like wild dogs with no reasoning believe that this is the most effective way to be heard? It causes more problems than it has ever solved. Unfortunate this is what a nation without God looks like.

May HE protect us all.
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Rioting, looting, burning communities down (your own communities!) do not equal protesting.  And why Natonwide riots?  It didn't happen everywhere!  I'm sick of seeing wall to wall, 24/7 coverage of this on the news.  Pull the plug on this sordid publicity stain to stop the madness of criminals making the news in pretense of protesting, and start arresting in masse!  That man's death is far overshadowed by the repulsive actions of all that followed.

All were fired; the man was arrested, charged so why continue protesting anyway?  Will their happiness only be achieved to immediately erect gallows, skip the jury, and hang him in a public street?  Or tied to the back of a car and dragged to death?
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NY Post and Washington post are biased and opinionated. Not real news and can not be trusted.
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I always thought the New York Times was a legitimate news source.
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The NY Times is trash and that story isn’t a headline which is what my point was—

Missing here https://www.nytimes.com/topic/subject/police

and of course here https://www.nytimes.com/

you also won’t see the good things the protestors are doing making headlines. Abolish the media
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https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/05/30/us/ap-us-federal-officer-killed.html?searchResultPosition=6

I'm hoping you think the NY Times is a legitimate news source.
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The protestors in Oakland CA killed a federal police officer overnight but it’s not making the news.

Elaine those reporters were not arrested. They were briefly detained while it was confirmed they were the media. The media intentionally chose to use the incorrect word.

When will people wake up and realize that corporate liberal media is a danger to this country too?
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I agree, Glad. There's a difference between peaceful protesting and vandalizing and stealing. Two wrongs don't make a right. The news stations do need to stop giving the protests all the attention, but then again, they are in it for the ratings.
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One of the CNN crew got arrested on live tv.
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Terrible what happened in Minneapolis. But, the protest all around the country and televising it live, too much! Take them all to the jails where there are outbreaks. Media needs to stop giving it live tv coverage. If people want to watch it is streaming everywhere, stop taking regular tv shows away!

And was really hoping for coffee shop visit tomorrow. They opened based on governor's order. But, not open on Saturday.
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