Are people with Alzheimer's responsible for credit card debt?

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Q: My mom has a lot of credit card debt. Are people who get in debt because of Alzheimer's disease liable?

A: Your question raises a difficult issue. A person who incurs a debt is considered legally responsible for the debt unless you can prove that she was not competent when she signed up for whatever it was that cost so much.

I would immediately seek legal advice as to whether you can get the debt waived, based on her inability to understand what she was doing when she got into this debt. It is possible to do so, but it will cost money for attorney's fees to help you. There may be reduced-fee attorneys available for this kind of matter through your county bar association, AARP's list of lower cost attorneys and through various other legal services organizations serving the elderly.

I suggest that you get moving immediately. There may be other problems besides the credit card debt. A review of all of mom's financial records is in order, and now.

A larger question is how the problem happened in the first place. If mom was developing dementia, it did not happen overnight. Family members must have known that mom had memory problems for quite some time before the debt issue came up. When any adult child notices that a parent has memory loss, it is important to persuade the elder to get to a doctor as soon as possible.

A diagnosis can be a warning that everyone needs to step up and take protective measures to prevent mom from doing foolish things with money, especially if finances are limited. Loss of the ability to understand money, do math or realize the consequences of placing orders or giving money to others can occur in the earliest stages of dementia. The elder may be able to live independently and seem pretty well, but dementia is a tragic and sneaky thief that steals ability invisibly. A person with dementia absolutely needs to plan ahead and appoint an agent on a durable power of attorney (DPOA) for finances to prevent the kind of nightmare debt you now have to deal with in the situation you describe.


Carolyn Rosenblatt is a registered nurse and attorney who has 40 years of experience. She is the author of "The Boomer's Guide to Aging Parents." Read her full biography

 
 

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KZ

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Jun 23, 2010

I'm in a mess with my mother's debts as she's on Medicaid and currently resides in a nursing facility. She was unable to pay her outstanding debts and low and behold, 2 judgments were placed on our property (the house is in my name with mom listed as Life Estate of the house). I've paid large attorney fees to get this resolved, but to date, it still hasn't as I ran out of money. I don't know if I should wait it out until mom passes (she is 91) and her name is taken off the house and hopefully, the judments removed. What a mess!

KZ

 
 

TheFixer

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Jun 23, 2010

Could your Mom file for bankruptcy? My mother-in -law did and was able to keep her home and car.

 
 

Eddie

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Jun 23, 2010

KZ:

Are the credit cards "unsecured" or did she put the house as collateral? If it's unsecured, she can file for bankruptcy and keep her home (and be credit-less for 7 years). You might want to file yourself or find someone in one of those community papers at train and/or bus stations who won't charge an arm and a leg.

-- ED

 
 

KZ

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Jun 23, 2010

I believe the credit cards are "unsecured". The home is actually under my name and she is just listed as life estate of the house meaning she has a place to live if she ever left the nursing which is never going to happen. Bankruptcy was an option; however, I don't think she can file for it since she is a Medicaid recipient. I'm hoping after mom passes, her name will come off the deed and then the judgments will be removed. I can only wish!

KZ

 
 

195Austin

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Jun 23, 2010

A debt does not gp away when she dies-my husband's debts are now owned by me even though other widows do not have to pay off credit cards in their late husbands name I got in trouble by just asking if I was responsible and agreed to continue paying it off and had to pay the balance at once just for asking the question-so if her debts are yours now they will still be yours when she dies.

 
 

beachedpage

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Jun 23, 2010

So what happens to credit card debt after death? My mother has no property, no estate. In fact, when her Social Security starts going towards Hospice care, there will be no money to pay her bills before she passes. I have researched and can't find out any answers.

 
 

gmbyacht

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Jun 24, 2010

This is both a financial and legal question. I am not being sarcastic, but I would write to Suze Orman. You need professional advice from someone that is not going to put YOU into debt. Good Luck.

 
 

robert888

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Jun 24, 2010

SCOTT FREE - I think many of the persons responding are wrong. Kids or spouses are not responsible for a parent or spouses debts. When they pass away, the debt goes "poof."

The only exceptions to this are when contracts and purchases were done in both person's names. Or for example, if you co-sign something as a guarantor. If the credit card is in only one spouse's name, any debts on it, are to that person only.

Collection agencies WILL tell you that as a spouse or child you have a moral obligation to pay off the debt. That is up to each person to decide however. Legally, the debt a person takes on, goes with them to the grave. If it were any other way, we'd go back to serfdom and family debt thru the generations!

 
 

robert888

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Jun 24, 2010

ABOUT ALZHEIMER'S - When I realized that my dad couldn't handle paying bills anymore, and when I had him sign the checks and by the third check he asked me, "Hey, I can't remember how to sign my name," it was time to transition.

When he knew that I was taking care of the bills, he let it go pretty easily.

Legally, a person is responsible for any contracts or purchases they make, even with Alzheimer's. Since it is a disease that has so many gradations, it does not automatically make one incompetent in the eyes of the court.

If the debts/purchases so far are minimal, I would recommend focusing on transitioning to someone who can act "to take care of his finances." If it is already a big mess, then you'll have a ton of work and expense to have him evaluated, declared incompetent and for a conservator to be appointed. With that in hand, you could then challenge the previous debts.


 
 

kcandrick

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Aug 11, 2010

responding to 195Austin....not neccessarily!!! If the unsecrued debt is in her name only (you didn't ask to have them put your name on the account) then you would not be responsible for the debt if there was no probate involved. The lender would have to file for a probate on the estate, which many won't bother doing due to their own costs for attorneys and court. The problem Austin had was that she agreed to pay it off. I would suggest you see a good attorney that specializes in estate planning and elder care. Mine has given me a wealth of advice! One thing I never knew and is a negative to life estates, is that medicare can now go after the "value" of a life estate. So be careful and get a good attorney!

 
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