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David was perfectly good and eating day before yesterday but today the police i called to the board and care said tgat its right to give him it noow that he is hospi e. I dont beleive thats true because hw is not in constant pain
I guess everyone just pieced your two posts together to figure what is going on. So if they are right David has a POA. That means that person is incharge if he can't make decisions for himself. Others feel he is on hospice and if so in a hospital, I would also saying he is dying. Hospitals don't bring in Hospice unless the person is actively dying. Its also called comfort care.
Your problem here is that you have no say in David's care. For whatever reason, he has assigned someone other than you as POA. You can't talk to the Doctors or the staff or make any demands. If you want to be able to visit, you have to stop what you are doing. If not, the POA can keep you away from him because you are doing more harm than good.
Morphine is primarily a pain killed, and quite a powerful one, but it is also a medication that can help enormously with other conditions. It is especially a powerful aid in cases of shortness of breath. It may be given for agitation in which the level of pain cannot be adequately assessed.
You have a loved one in Hospice. Hospice will provide you a counselor who will answer your questions. Please make use of access to clergy and social workers and please ask the counselors and nurses for help before calling the police. Your loved one is receiving end of life care. Please allow your loved one to pass in comfort and allow those expert in end of life care to give this care; they are trained. They will be happy to discuss things with you.
Morphine is given to help with pain and in most cases it is given because it makes breathing easier for the patient in hospice.
Please stop making scenes with the staff and don't call the police. Your friend is entering the dying process at this point. Dying is a personal experience. Please be respectful of your friend and the staff who is taking care of him.
Can you sit with him quietly and hold his hand? Enjoy these last moments you have with your loved one.
There should be a chapel in the facility. What was your friend's religious background? If he is Catholic, have a priest issue his last rites before time. Talk with someone such as a minister or priest to calm you down. Dying is not only about the physical but it is a spiritual process as well. The soul is preparing to be released from the physical world to go back into the spiritual realm.
Elisabeth Kubler Ross and David Kessler had written an excellent book called Grief and Grieving. This focused more on the grief experiences of family members, spouses and friends of the people who are in the process of passing or for those who have already done so. This book gives actual accounts of people's personal experiences before and after their love ones have gone on.
Morphine makes a person more comfortable. Also, you have absolutely no idea how David is feeling. People sometimes tell us they're fine and not in pain, so as not to upset us. I doubt very much, if this is end of life, that your friend is not in pain. However, morphine is more than just a painkiller. You need to stop interfering with your friend's care. It isn't helping him. He certainly doesn't need the drama of you calling the police, etc. I might add that if he were strong enough, he would be advocating for himself. As he isn't, this means that he needs the care professionals to act in his best interests for him. I think you should back off, or you might find yourself banned from visiting, which would be very sad for both you and your friend.
Morphine has a number of uses, one is to make breathing easier for those struggling to get breath. That’s a kindness, has nothing to do with pain. Consider you may not know the entire story
You are not the POA here so stop trying to cause so much aggravation to a dying man! Do you understand how hospice works? And that morphine does not "hasten" death? When I was 7.5 months pregnant with my first child, I was given a morphine IV drip for 8 hours continuously to stop early labor. I didn't die, my labor stopped, and my son was born healthy at term.
Doctors have examined your friend and found him to be dying and in need of hospice care. The doctors have also determined that morphine will not “hasten” his death as you were concerned about in your earlier post. Why are you so adamant that you’re calling the police and getting in altercations with staff and trying to remove a dying man from a place that is taking care of him and a hospice team that is making sure he doesn’t suffer?
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Your problem here is that you have no say in David's care. For whatever reason, he has assigned someone other than you as POA. You can't talk to the Doctors or the staff or make any demands. If you want to be able to visit, you have to stop what you are doing. If not, the POA can keep you away from him because you are doing more harm than good.
You have a loved one in Hospice. Hospice will provide you a counselor who will answer your questions. Please make use of access to clergy and social workers and please ask the counselors and nurses for help before calling the police. Your loved one is receiving end of life care. Please allow your loved one to pass in comfort and allow those expert in end of life care to give this care; they are trained. They will be happy to discuss things with you.
My heart goes out to you in your loss.
All you are doing is disrupting his peace and well-being.
You have no idea whether he is in constant pain or not, your observations really mean nothing at this point, he most likely is transitioning.
Please stop making scenes with the staff and don't call the police. Your friend is entering the dying process at this point. Dying is a personal experience. Please be respectful of your friend and the staff who is taking care of him.
Can you sit with him quietly and hold his hand? Enjoy these last moments you have with your loved one.
There should be a chapel in the facility. What was your friend's religious background? If he is Catholic, have a priest issue his last rites before time. Talk with someone such as a minister or priest to calm you down. Dying is not only about the physical but it is a spiritual process as well. The soul is preparing to be released from the physical world to go back into the spiritual realm.
Elisabeth Kubler Ross and David Kessler had written an excellent book called Grief and Grieving. This focused more on the grief experiences of family members, spouses and friends of the people who are in the process of passing or for those who have already done so. This book gives actual accounts of people's personal experiences before and after their love ones have gone on.
Also, you have absolutely no idea how David is feeling. People sometimes tell us they're fine and not in pain, so as not to upset us.
I doubt very much, if this is end of life, that your friend is not in pain.
However, morphine is more than just a painkiller.
You need to stop interfering with your friend's care. It isn't helping him. He certainly doesn't need the drama of you calling the police, etc.
I might add that if he were strong enough, he would be advocating for himself. As he isn't, this means that he needs the care professionals to act in his best interests for him.
I think you should back off, or you might find yourself banned from visiting, which would be very sad for both you and your friend.
Let the doctors and hospice do their jobs.