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My father was transferred to a SNF about 2.5 hours from me. I contacted the Administrator by phone and email, letting them know to contact me for any reason. The SNF I finally found out on day 6 will not recognize my DPOA. I couldn't believe it. They tested my father with the BIM's and decided he did NOT have alzheimers and he could leave if he wanted too. I explained to them that the BIMS test is for assessment, not meant to override the Neuropsychologist reports and diagnosis. That definitely got me flagged. My father has been there 2 weeks. I still don't have a care plan, they refuse to involve me. I have sent my DPOA to them 5 times. Now the National heart institute called and reported to me that the SNF missed his follow up appt and the SNF told them they didn't know he had one. Well its on his discharge papers. They are still refusing to transport him to the new appointment. Even if they don't do it themselves they are suppose to set up transport for his appointments outside of the facility. I decided to do more research on this facility, but honestly it never occurred to me that a social worker at a hospital would send him to a bad SNF. I started research and discovered this Facility only rates a 1, has been fine $140,000 for neglect, abuse, stolen money, not enough food, not enough pharmaceuticals. I started my search with medicare.gov, this is all public record. This facility had me pay 3 months upfront, I have never heard of that before. The amount was ridiculous! So I got the cashier check and signed him in at the hospital. So how they can say I don't have DPOA its not logical. My father is VA so he had to be self pay at this SNF. But the place he was to transfer next , the social worker arranged , is just as horrid as the one he is in now.I am currently searching and calling for a new facility. At this point I don't know how to fix this as fast as I think it should be handled. I have worked at a lot of facilities, this one stinks, and dirty , and the food had no color , not one resident had on clean clothes or hair brushed. I'm disgusted. I did report it with state dept and Ombudsman. Has anyone gone through this?? Thanks 😊

You should not need to obtain guardianship. The DPOA should give you all the authority you need. I would seek assistance from an aggressive knowledgeable attorney. To sue, you must show harm. Start making a detailed list of all the harm they have caused, from failing to respect the legal authority of the DPOA to bouncing him from place to place and failing to provide necessary medical care. Sue the pants off them. $ is all they care about and understand.
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Slopez1973: Retain an attorney.
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SNF don’t pay enough to keep good help. The bottom line (money) is the main things so patients lose out to anything that can be cut like care, food, transports, cleanliness, safety, sanitary conditions, upkeep of building, record keeping, laundry, etc……….I would try to find a full time care giver to live in with her in a small apt. It could not cost any more and would be so much better.
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Did you tour SNF's in your area before placing him?
Yes, unfortunately, some can be really bad. Many SNF's are owned by a group of investors just looking for a profit - at any cost - not enough care assistants, not enough nurses, over-worked bare bones staff, old equipment, anywhere they can cut corners to improve their profit.

There are some well-run care facilities, but you have to tour before choosing one, preferably closer to you so you can check in on him often. Please don't do this by phone, or on the referral of someone else! If you have to take vacation days off work to do this, you really must see the places in person and meet with an admissions director before hand!
Observe the staff; do they seem harried, stressed, unhappy? How do the patients look? Are they clean, safe? Is someone keeping an eye on them?
Are there snacks available, what does the food look like?
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I truly feel for you . I saw Many Horror shows at the Skilled Nursing Facilities I Visited for My Mother and Bother . I was horrified . Most Of them are on Cape cod and are in it for the Money Only and could care less about the Patients . One Place Looked terrific next to the Church the Kennedys go to In Centerville. One Lady was Punched In the face , another elderly man thrown Out of His bed so One staff Member could sleep at Night. They did Not help people go to the Bathroom But put them In Diapers. Other Ladies I Know Our Mothers suffered neglect at this Place . Looked great on the Outside inside was another Matter. Patients running around stealing other Patients belongings . No One ever answered the Phones either when I called . Then My brothers rehab again No One answered the Phones, His bathroom was filthy , the food rotten , a Diaper Filled with Poop In His drawer . I wa sho Happy when he got Out of there . I could go on and on about several More Places . There was Only One In Jamaica Plain In Boston where they actually cared about their Carribean Patients and elders - that is where my brother spent the Last 4 Months of His Life and was well take care of . If you can Prove neglect get a consultation from a Personal Injury Lawyer and sue the Place . These Places are getting away with Too Much . I have several More Hour stories such as Lice Infested rooms and bedding . This Place should Have been shut down years ago .
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I am sorry for the stress you are dealing with. It is time to look into hiring an Elder Care Attorney. The doctor obviously was a quack. Your dad should not be living alone.
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You mention that your dad is a Veteran.
Does he have a "Service Connected Disability %" that has been assigned?
You might want to try to get the VA involved here as well.
Depending on if he has a % rating he may qualify for one of the VA facilities.
Also you might want to check to see if there are any VA Medical Foster Homes in his area . These are homes that a family (or person) goes through a process and is background checked, the home inspected, people trained to take in Veterans that wish to remain in a more home like environment but can not remain at home as they need care. The Veteran pays the homeowner but it will be less than a facility.
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DPoA

D = Durable which means it is in effect as soon as it is signed. You need one each for financial and medical.

Is your Dad telling them something different? Does he believe he needs your intervention?

You shouldn't need guardianship, but maybe a discussion with your Dad and a consult with a certified elder law attorney.
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Ombudsman, asap.

"I explained to them that the BIMS test is for assessment, not meant to override the Neuropsychologist reports and diagnosis".

THAT above as #1.

But I would also be looking to move him (closer if possible) to a much more professional facility.
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This sounds so tough. I heard someone had the same issue with a SNF refusing DPOA, and they had to go for guardianship before the facility finally listened. In the meantime, they kept records of every missed appointment and complaint, which helped when the Ombudsman got involved. It’s a lot, but you’re not alone — others have walked this road too.
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I’m so sorry you are going through this, dealing with government is truly a nightmare. We’ve had a horrific experience with the SW/court system, people put too much trust in what’s a money making business (SW/guardian ad litem, etc). I’d suggest seeing an elder law attorney to find out what your rights are, they can also address applying for guardianship, your DPOA, etc. 🙏🏻❤️
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You need an elder lawyer using Dads money. You need to get him transferred and the money not used, back. Really, there was no place closer than 2.5 hours away?
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