My cousin went to detox for alcohol. He has liver cancer and an infection he had in his face from a motorcycle wreck and finally after a long search a doctor finally got an appointment to have surgery to fix his face issue. He went to detox and was looking forward to having his face fixed. When they transported him to the hospital from detox for the infection, he got combative because he wanted to make sure he went to the appointment to have his face fixed. He pulled his tubes out and they sedated him. At that time, they called his mother a day later and said they lost her information, and she needed come and get him. they then transported to hospice and now they are keeping him sedated and he has not been able to come out of that state since the first sedation. He was fine and coherent and up with life and wanting to do what was best for himself prior to the sedation. I am appalled at this time since my cousin is not the type to just want to end his life and now, he has no say in whether to go through with the suggested hospice care or not. He has not come out of their 24-hour sedation because every time he starts to come to, they administer more morphine and advocate. This is beyond belief, and I disagree totally with it all. I am hoping to get any feedback as to what I can do to handle this. as I believe the person who has power of attorney is not competent enough to decide any decisions for him as well as she may be trying to cause his death. I hope anyone who can help will respond quickly because I'm running out of time to help him live if it’s possible, please help! I’m scared for him.
My first husband was an alcoholic who died from alcohol related complications when he was a young man.
Your cousin's face infection had to be treated with antibiotics and cleared up before surgery for it could even be a possibility.
My first husband had extensive liver damage like your cousin and also had an infection that required antibiotics. His live was too far gone to be able to process the medication and he died.
Hospice is keeping your cousin sedated as an act of mercy. Anyone will pull at the tubes and get agitated. That is why there is sedation.
Your cousin has cancer and is an alcoholic. His cancer could have spread very fast. He likely also has cirrhosis and aeschites as well. These are painful conditions that require morphine and other drugs to help a person's suffering. These conditions can get very bad very quick. He may have been coherent and seeming fine to you, but he wasn't. He was having a good day.
The day before my former husband went into the hospital to die he seemed almost like his old self. Like he could rally and get better. He couldn't. He had to be sedated (a drug-induced coma) and then he went to God's mercy in peace.
I think the same for your cousin too. Go and be with your cousin in his last days. Ask his doctor to explain what's happening.
If the cancer has metastasized (that means it's spread) to his liver, it can be deadly. And horribly painful.
His body can not absorb nutrients which is why he isn't being fed.
There is a patient advocate at the hospital. Also social workers and chaplains. That’s who you want to talk to in the morning.
Wishing you well.
PSA: if you sincerely believe someone is being “murdered“, call the police. Don’t go on an anonymous internet forum to complain about a potential murder. Sheesh!
Let me also say that hospice is only called in when a person has a life expectancy of 6 months or less. There are certain exceptions, but that it the norm. So if he has gone into hospice, you need to understand that it is not likely that they are just keeping him sedated because he is combative and needed care until his mother could come get him. Had they just needed someone to take care of him until someone picked him up - they would have discharged him to a rehab facility or something similar.
Hospice is end of life care.
They are sedating him and giving him Ativan - an anti-anxiety medication. Hospice care is explicitly for "comfort" care or compassionate care for people in the advanced stages of terminal illnesses. They don't typically do anything to prolong life, but they also don't do anything to bring on death. They do what they can to make patients comfortable.
They are there for both the patient, and their family and friends. To offer comfort and to keep the patient comfortable and ease their last days. They are not causing death. The person is already dying.
For some family and friends that is incredibly hard to process. That is another reason hospice is typically brought in, to offer comfort and respite for the family.
I know this is difficult. It was very hard on our family when hospice was brought in for my dad, and we knew it was coming. I can't imagine if you didn't know it was coming.
Liver cancer can be pretty aggressive. Is it possible that it has progressed and you aren't aware of how far? Are you allowed to get information from the hospice nurses? Will they update you on your cousin's situation?
It doesn't sound like your aunt is a very nice person. But your cousin did choose her as his POA. Typically people choose someone as their POA that will make the choices for them that they themselves would make if they were able to do so. It's unusual for someone to choose a POA that will not act in their best interest. If you think that she is actively acting against his best interest I suppose you could bring that up with the hospice nurses.
But honestly it is better for you to understand the entire picture about your cousin's health before you try to intervene. If you are unaware of his current cancer prognosis and he is genuinely end of life, maybe it is better to understand that first. This is such a difficult time for all of you. If they bring him out of sedation to make decisions, what does that look like? Is he in pain? Would he be able to make sound choices? Or would he be in too much pain? Or become combative again? Keep his ENTIRE best interests in mind as you move forward. Gather all of the information before you proceed. I know you have his best interests at heart and you love him and only want to do what is right. But you need the full story before you make any moves.
Sometimes even those we love and think we know well don't tell us everything. Take a deep breath. Reacting in panic sometimes leads us to do the wrong thing even for the right reasons.
Best of luck.
I have a feeling his situation is considerably worse than you realize. I understand your agony, as I had it, too, but please don't second-guess the very difficult decision his POA (mom?) had to make.
And no, hospice does not murder people. They're solely focused on quality of life -- in your cousin's case, managing his anxiety and pain, not dancing a jig.
It sounds like he lived hard, and now his body is giving out. I'm very sorry.
Liver cancer is 100% fatal. Period. Unless the person qualifies for a liver transplant, which, based on your comments, your cousin would not qualify.
My SIL is a liver transplant doc and also a hepatologist. Most of his patients die. It's sad, but true. You cannot live without a liver.
The infection is a side issue, unrelated to the cancer. Looks doubtful that he can have any kind of surgery as he is so sick with the cancer.
Perhaps you can get someone to talk to you about what is going on with your cousin's body? The things that Hospice are doing are simply keeping him comfortable, they arent' killing him. The cancer will do that.
The POA can and should make the hard decisions. Take a step back and ask yourself IF your cousin could have chosen you as POA, why didn't he? This person is who he chose. I'm sure they are not enjoying this experience at all. It's awful to have to see someone suffer and Hospice can keep them from the excruciating pain of all his myriad health issues.
He's proven to be combative-and while you want him to get his face fixed, he may simply never be healthy enoough to do that. I'm so sorry.
Go visit him and be supportive of the POA, who probably feels as awful as you do, or more.
And, BTW, if he is 'fresh' out of detox, it would be hard to find a dr who would want to perform surgery on him.
Sorry--that's just the facts. Please take care of yourself during this time.
I posted earlier but I just want to say that I understand how you feel. I have addiction in my family. My oldest (deceased) brother was an opioid addict an had liver issues, Hep C.
My brother also had a horrific motorcycle accident and nearly died.
You cousin has many complexities in his life. All of these things may have caught up with him and there isn’t a way for him to survive.
My brother’s lifestyle eventually caught up with him and he died in a hospice facility.
It’s truly unfortunate that your aunt has mistreated your cousin. Obviously, she has her own issues with addiction.
I can understand why your cousin reached out to alcohol for comfort. Plus, you can’t overlook the fact that he was following his mother’s example. People will either follow their frame of reference or they avoid it.
Addiction is a disease. I have enormous empathy for people who are struggling with addiction.
I found Al-Anon and Nar-Anon to be very helpful to me. It helps to meet with others who have similar experiences in dealing with family members who are addicts.
No one wakes up in the morning and says, ‘Hey, I want to be an addict today.’ Addicts are human beings just like anyone else.
Some people are able to go into recovery and others struggle to make it to that point. Some make it and they go back and forth between recovery and addiction.
My brother was a great guy when he wasn’t using. He successfully ran his own business. Sadly, for one reason or another he kept slipping back into his addiction. Addiction will steal everything from a person, even their very life.
Again, I am extremely sorry that you are suffering. I spent many years crying over my brother’s pain. He accepted death when he entered his hospice facility and his restless soul is finally at peace. I take comfort in knowing that.
I hope and pray that you will find peace. I don’t think there is a way for you to help your cousin now. If you pray, now is the time to offer up a few prayers for him like I did at my brother’s bedside for him.
It’s hard to say goodbye to people that we love. I was the last person to see my brother. He died the second that I left his room.
Wishing you peace. I know that it probably isn’t what you want to hear but, for what it’s worth, I will say a prayer for your cousin and for you. I know that you would rather know that your cousin will pull through. I’m so sorry that I can’t tell you that he’s going to be okay.
Al-Anon was very helpful to me too. Your brother sounds a lot like my first husband. He was a great guy. He had the biggest heart and he would help anyone. He was a hard worker too. Never drank on the job and never missed a day of work for being drunk. He wasn't mean or abusive either.
He tried so hard to give up the booze. He'd get sober for a while then fall of the wagon again and again.
It wasn't his fault. He was an alcoholic. Most of his family were alcoholics. Leaving him broke my heart, but I couldn't live with a drunk anymore.
When he was sick I helped take care of him. I was married to my second husband at the time and he understood why I had to and was cool with it.
My first husband knew he wasn't going to recover. Addiction killed him like so many others.
Maybe you don't have all the medical facts, especially as you are not the MPOA.
I read your cousin has liver cancer - maybe it is more advanced than you believed?
He can’t be in hospice unless he is dying. There is no way to get him in hospice without that— Medicare, Medicaid and or his insurance won’t pay for it unless he has medical records showing he is dying.
What you are saying is his mother is trying to kill him. Ok go to the police then. she might be every terrible thing you say she is, but none of that means he isn’t dying from liver cancer.
Dave, your cousin made many decisions in the past that didn't serve him well. His lifestyle has led him to this point. At the time he thought he was living his best life, but all of those decisions have come home to roost and put him into this present circumstance.
I understand that liver cancer is very painful and the survival rate is low. Hospice is there to help, not kill him. Cancer and infection are killing him, not hospice and his mother. Hospice is trying to keep him from the agony of the excruciating pain that goes along with his condition. If you were to witness such pain, you'd probably be even more upset than you are now with his being sedated.
You need to talk to his hospice team so you can better understand what's happening. I wish you peace.
People can get cancer and other illnesses and it's not because of their life choices.
No one ever has to hear that a person they love made bad choices and their lifestyle put them where they are.
No one in grief ever has to hear that because it's cruel and completely unnecessary.
~BC 8/12/23