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Hi. I’d posted a few days ago about mother,77, getting off Norco and on suboxone for her chronic back pain. It’s been rough.Her new PCP kept just saying her increased pain was opiate withdrawal. But over last weekend she became just about unable to walk. The PCP had seen this in his office On Friday. Her 02 sat in there was 88-90. He has no comment about that.Sunday evening I went to check her. She’d been a little confused. Her sat was 86, I said enough of this. They admitted her.Did back MRIs. They suspect osteomyelitis at L4-5, plus all the usual degenerative changes. Atypical pneumonia. So far the plan is for 6 weeks of IV antibiotics for the bone infection. Her urine and blood cultures are so far negative, but that happens sometimes is what Google says. But her pain is already a little better .
They were going to set up outpatient IVs. I told the dr about her hoarded house, that it’s unsafe for maintaining a PICC line. It can’t be kept clean and dry with how she lives. She’s a rolling disaster and will have that dressing ruined in a heartbeat. I told the doctor I had pictures to prove it. He didn’t bat and eye and said we will set it up for a facility.i’m still a bit on pins and needles that they are going to decide this is not the problem and send her home. They told me they were looking at her other labs for correlation. And so far her other labs don’t look bad. But the MRI report looks bad. she also had an episode of urinary retention her first day in there which seems to match up with this. I know a long facility stay is not good for her in the long-term. She’s getting delirium. But I cannot manage this at her home. Also of know is that her house is 10 miles away from mine. So to get her to the infusion center for a daily med, which is here where I live, it would end up being 40 miles of driving for me. Every single day for six weeks. But the true driver in the facility decision is her living conditions. I question whether she’ll ever live at home after this. She is walking a bit better just in these few days. So they might get her walking to a point where she could live at home again. But I see a long facility stay as very bad for her mental status.

Stay strong.
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Hoping for the best here, Oedgar. Keep us posted. 😊
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An update. We spoke to the same hospitalist as we did yesterday. Talked about her going to a facility. She seemed agreeable. Mother is a little bit mentally altered today really has been the whole hospital. Stay. OK we’ve got a plan. Six weeks of IV antibiotics at a facility. I leave for lunch and she calls me and says the same. Dr came in her room and sat down and talk to her. And said they could make various arrangements either at a facility or at her house. And I had a big freak out and got off the phone with her quick. And called her nurse. And I got very intense with her nurse and said under no circumstances is she to be discharged home. That it is unsafe due to germs and hoarding. Plus her decreased mobility. I said I’m not doing it and if you discharge her home, I will not come pick her up. I said spread that word to whatever Dr. I’m happy to talk to social work. I’m happy to send pictures. You name it. Strangely, my mother didn’t seem very angry. When I told her we were not doing this at her house. She asked why not. I plainly told her because her house is filthy and she can’t manage a PICC line there.
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casole Jun 25, 2025
Good for you! Stick to your guns and continue to be simply "just the facts" with your mom. 🙏🙏🙏
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Oedgar, you sure have your plate full with your mom and her health challenges.

Well done on getting the doc to get her placed for the best care possible in this terrible situation and well done for your advocacy getting her to the hospital to get a diagnosis. Neither of those are easy to do in situations like this. So, WELL DONE!

My understanding is that bone infection is terribly painful, I am happy that you fought for her right to medical care, now things can move forward, whatever that might look like.

May The Lord give your mom healing mercies and give you strength, guidance and wisdom for this new crisis.
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I’m glad you spoke up. Keep using the words unsafe and unclean.

Your mom really does need to go to SNF or something like that for this.

Hang in there.
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O, I forget. Is your mom on Hospice yet?
At this point and without adequate pain medications for certain, this spinal condition means that any life left to her is going to be sheer torture and torment. No move, including breathing, is possible without pain when there is this sort of spinal condition. Many who have it do VSED (Voluntary Stopping Eating and Drinking) in order to have a final exit, and in the New York Times some years ago a daughter wrote of her mother's journey ending her own life in this manner.
Living in this constant pain is agony; I don't quite see the reason for worrying about addiction to pain medications at this point. I honestly don't.
I would explore palliative care at the least, and Hospice as soon as possible.
I just am so sorry for all this for your mom.
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Oedgar23 Jun 25, 2025
Alva deer, we kept asking about palliative care and her former quack of a PCP said she could not get just that. And that he was not ready to certify her for hospice. But I’ve been thinking a lot about this pain, especially since she had this terrible increase in pain. I hope when she moves to the next facility, we can get some better answers for pain management. What I would like to see happen is she moves to a facility with palliative care or hospice. And again right now the plan is to treat the infection, but I was reading last night that there is a risk of recurrence, especially with her comorbidities, osteoporosis, spinal hardware already present. We just live in a place with absolute minimal medical care. But I am completely ready to entertain palliative care or hospice. And I think she is also.
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You don't have to have Dementia to go to a facility. For you, if you can get her into LTC do it. Hoarding is a mental condition. She can jo longer care for herself. You really did not want to do this, now is the time to place her and back off.
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Oh, believe me, I had already made a decision that in someway, her living situation must change. I plan to raise a red flag with every social worker Case manager discharge planner that I interact with.
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Drivingdaisy Jun 25, 2025
Oedgar Just wanted to say how sorry I am, and to not forget to take care of yourself.
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"But I see a long facility stay as very bad for her mental status", yet you don't think that your mom living in very unhealthy hoarded conditions at home are bad for her mental status? Really???
Please DO NOT allow the hospital or any rehab facility send your mom home ever again. She now requires 24/7 care in a facility where she will be kept safe and looked after, and where you can just be her loving child and advocate and not her overwhelmed caregiver.
This is now what I like to call a no brainer. Your mom will adjust over time.
It's time now to do what is best for your mom and her well being, and you already know in your heart of hearts that placing her in a facility is what is best.
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Oedgar23 Jun 25, 2025
I was not sure if the change in living status was going to be another house cleanup with some hired Help that she pays for, or a selling of the house and moving to a senior apartment near my house, or a facility, but in someway a change has to happen. But if she never gets over this delirium and being confused, there is our answer. It must be a facility. I’d still prefer a facility, but you must keep in mind, the person has to also medically qualify for a long-term care, Medicaid. She’s really good at presenting normal mentally even when she’s not. As far as being oriented etc. And if she can halfway walk with a walker, I don’t trust them not to decide that she is A-OK to live at home. And we’d have to again meet Medicaid long-term care medical requirements. But I plan to raise the red flag every step of the way.
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