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My wife of 55+ years began her long journey at least 13 years ago. She has now lost all ADLs and can no longer communicate any thoughts she may have. I have in-home caretakers 8-13 hours per day. I’ve researched and considered MC but am always dissuaded by her caretakers who insist that her life expectancy could be reduced to a few months, which I’m not sure is so bad at this stage.
Is this likely or do they just have a conflict of interest in that they’d lose a good customer. I’m not sure whose benefit such a move would be for, but probably for me.

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It's a conflict of interest imo. My mother lasted just under 3 yrs in Memory Care Assisted Living, but I prayed daily for God to take her sooner. The caregivers at MC doted on her and sat with her after their shifts had ended, in fact.

You matter too Harry. Not only is your wife's life destroyed by Alzheimer's, but so is yours. Its fine to place her, after 13 yrs, and to take back some of your own life in the process! You can visit her anytime, and have some peace back in your home as well.

Best of luck to you.
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Harry, I believe that her caregivers are trying to stay employed. The truth is that none of us know with certainty how long we can expect to live. By insisting that they actually know, your caregivers are giving themselves away. They are manipulating you for their own purposes by playing to your emotions. In logic class, it was called "pathos" or "appealing to emotions." Using a fallacy that has no basis in fact makes logical reasoning difficult, if not impossible. So you keep them on.

My parents both had dementia; they were kept at home due to family pressure and died there. It was a miserable long death. My dear husband is in late-stage dementia in a memory care facility now. He's been there for 9 months. He suffers from aphasia. Can't do any ADLs. Very much like your wife. However, the positives of his being in memory care, where he is surrounded by a team of kind and loving caregivers as well as new friends, are many. Sometimes he and his friends hold hands across the table. Sometimes they make silent jokes using funny expressions, and they all laugh whether they know what it's about or not. Often they give a friend treats from their plate at lunch. A Cheeto. A cookie. A green bean. DH is much better off than when he was at home.

DH had begun to develop a sign language before he went there. That was how he tried to communicate with me and staff in a hospital. His friends in MC began to mimic him. Now at least 3 of them communicate with him and the caregivers using signs. The method is fluid and changes with each person, but they all know that someone's trying to express himself and they try to understand. Needless to say, they are all highly intelligent. Even so, because of memory deficits, their signing is very limited to their present needs.

Examples: Friend A saw my DH getting his med in a cup of pudding. Friend A (Lewy body dementia) signed to the CG that he wanted some too. She brought it. When someone wasn't at the table, DH pointed to the empty space and made a rolling motion with his hands (person had left in a wheelchair), and facial expression showed that DH missed Friend B and wondered where he was. Only one of DH's friends was communicating anything at home before MC, and it wasn't much.

This shows that they are curious, understand more than previously thought, and have ability and the will to still be members of a society. It's unusual but has happened elsewhere, according to my research. The CGs at MC are delighted; they don't teach any sign language (they don't have time), but they are eager to respond in kind if confronted with it.

MC would be best for wife and you. She would have more to hold her interest and cause her brain to keep working. You would have your life back.
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They surely DO have a conflict of interest, Harry. And they may well be right. She may thrive and love it. She may not. You can't know.

I think at this time you should give yourself some relief. You have done a heroic job in my humble opinion. I would tell them that you truly don't wish to discuss plans further with them; saying something once is enough. That you appreciate them and all they have done and will give them wonderful references but that it is time now that it is about YOU yourself. My very best to you and your wife.
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These caretakers want to keep their job .
Do what you need to do . The fact that you say they have to “ dissuade “ you , indicates that you already know what you feel is needed at this time , which is MC .
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Harry, I think that you also need to consider how you are going to live and cope after your wife has passed away.
Right now, you are her caregiver (even though you have carers coming in). Your life and identity are entwined with your wife's - how she is now.

If you and your wife aren't together all the time, you can reclaim your life, including who you were when your wife was herself.
Perhaps you can already remember your wife clearly how she was before this illness robbed her, but if you can't then some distance might help you, so you're not seeing her constantly as a shell of the person she was.

Also, I think that you will find it harder to live and sleep in your home after your wife dies, whereas if she goes to live in memory care you will be able to transition and get used to her not being there without also having to deal with losing her. (Although, we all know about the long, drawn out grief process of losing our loved ones to dementia.)

Whichever decision you make, I wish you comfort and peace.
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I think there is a little conflict of interest hear. Of course they don't want to lose their jobs. And yes the change might hasten your wifes passing but what quality of life does she have now? IMO, what do you need? Are you tired and burned out. Do you want to have your home back. Your feelings and health are important too.

If you can afford MC, go tour a few. I placed my Mom into LTC. I walked into the facility and knew it was the place for Mom. The staff was so nice and the residents seemed clean and happy.
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The fact that your wife is now in the very late stages of her dementia journey means that she doesn't have much time left on this earth anyway, so only you can decide how you want her to live out her days.
And there are no wrong answers here, but what is best for the 2 of you.
Regardless of what you decide I would most certainly bring hospice on board, as they will have a nurse come to your home or the facility once a week to start to check on your wife, and aides will come at least twice a week to bathe her. They will also supply any and all needed equipment, supplies and medications all covered 100% under your wife's Medicare. Plus you'll have access to their social worker, chaplain and volunteers.
I wish you the very best as you take this final journey with your wife.
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I think you would both benefit from having her in MC. She would have continued care and they would maintain all her prescriptions. How serious is this that caregivers recommend not to? Are you looking at end of life care? You say that a few months isn't going to make any difference so maybe it's time to look at in-house hospice? Seems communication is hard for her,do you think she would accept a change of environment and people or just get totally confused? I hear you, you've reached the point where you just can't do this anymore, otherwise you wouldn't be here. You can go visit MC facilities by yourself and talk to them about her needs. If this is not end of life, it's probably a good thing for you both. You are a very dedicated spouse, kudos for your strength!
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Sorry, but your wife belongs in memory care.
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Harrylcnm: Your wife belongs in a managed care facility.
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