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Yeah. It's crazymaking. Mom's next door to brother, but its like around a corner next door. She knows and understands how i feel about him, but before any visit I'll clarify that our visits will need to be the two of us only.
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Tinkster, you know the donkey character in Animal Farm, Benjamin I think his name is... And whatever revolutionary changes happen, when all the other animals are getting excited and enthusiastic about them, all he ever says is: "donkeys live a long time."

I really hope your mother will be happy, safe and well cared for. I hope her new home works out for her, I really do.

Does this mean it's likely to be the beginning of a new and beautiful relationship between you and her, or for the family as a whole?

You've lived with this family a long time...
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I drafted my POA resignation letter today.

My mom is making a game out of draining her bank accounts of cash and opening new accounts at other banks. She lies about it, accuses my good brother of using her credit cards (which he isn't, of course, and doesn't have access to them), can't remember what she wrote checks for, and on and on.

Bad brother and wife finally have what they wanted. I wash my hands of it all. They all deserve one another.
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I mean to include that I pay all of her bills and get her taxes done. These games she's playing is making it difficult and, potentially, impossible for me to execute my duties as her agent.

She can't even tell me what her lot # is where she is living now, but I need to find out so that I can get her addresses changed on her accounts and initiate paper statements for her.

I am so done with all of this. I tip my hat to those of you who knew this was coming.
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I'm sorry to hear it.

Are you sure she's conscious of what she's doing? If it were me, I'd go right ahead with that resignation letter but I'd also copy in APS, just in case it isn't she who's opening the new accounts if you see what I mean...

You tried so hard. This is so unfair. Hugs x
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((((((tinkster)))))) There comes a time to pull the plug. I do think it is here. Your mum is reveling in playing games which make your life difficult and your job as POA impossible. No doubt bad bro is part of the picture. And there is nothing you can do to stop this train wreck in progress. How frustrating.

CM had a good point - inform the APS about your concerns and resignation.

You are a good daughter and have done what you should and more. This must be so disheartening. My heart goes out to you. ((((((((hugs))))))
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Just ((((((hugs))))))), Tinkster. Yes, inform APS about what is going on. That's the best you can do.
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I'm sure what she's doing makes sense to her in the moment. Bad brother and wife have evil venom instead of blood, and they feed into my mom's love of pitting one person against another. Purely for the drama because of her boredom or something, I guess.

The reason I am her POA to begin with is that my mom hasn't taken care of bills or written checks or anything in over 30 years. I don't believe she is capable of managing that stuff, as she can't remember anything from one moment to the next. She was going nuts on the phone with me today over $2000 that she saw "someone" had taken out of her account a month or so ago. I told her she told me, when I asked, that it was to buy appliances.

She has about $9k left in savings and $2K in checking. I have kept her credit cards paid down to $0. The bulk of her money is with a financial management firm, and I am well acquainted with the man who handles her account. We've gotten to know one another pretty well over the past year and a half, and he KNOWS me. We have confidence in one another. He knows about mom's move and what my concerns are, and there is a flag on her account. If money starts flying out, the firm will be looking into potential financial abuse.

Those of you who have followed my story from the beginning might recall that instead of being a loving mother, she was jealous of me and resented anything she felt I had/attained/acquired that she hadn't. I figure this new crap is just her attempt to sabotage my wedding two weeks from today. It's just a simple ceremony that includes my BFF and Good Brother. No big deal. But I'm sure it must be eating her up inside.

I believe that she doesn't think I would walk away from the POA. Surprise, Mom.

Her attorney is aware of Bad Brother AND Good Brother having very poor money management skills. Mom sat right there and said to her attorney when my niece (subordinate POA after me) that if either of my brothers were in charge of her money she would "be living on the street within months".

I am getting three copies of the POA Resignation notarized: One is going to mom via certified mail, one is staying with me, one is going to mom's attorney, and a non-notarized copy is going to the guy who is my mom's account manager where the bulk of her money is held.

Yes, Churchmouse, I really did try hard. I just can't do it anymore. And even though I have a tendency to beat myself up about "failing" at things, in this case I'm not even beating myself up. I can't even say, "How can you abandon her altogether? She was such a good mom to you all those years."

Well, she wasn't. She didn't protect me from my dad's violence. She didn't love and nurture me -- she envied me and was nasty to me. She has always lied to me about things, both big and small. I've gone above and beyond what someone else in my shoes probably would have done. I'm sad about it, but not sad that I'm walking away. Sad that things with her have always been so bad.

Interesting footnote that I don't think I've mentioned here: I've grown up thinking I was allergic to penicillin. My mom always told me I was. One of the illnesses I've been battling the last year or so would have been taken care of much more simply with penicillin, but we had to try other things due to my allergy. My mom recently told me that I wasn't allergic to it at all. She just told me that so that I wouldn't take it. Her words.
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Will contacting APS open a can of worms? Would they think it was weird that I sent them my resignation?

Also, before anyone asks, my niece who is the subordinate agent on the POA is resigning too. She wants no part of it.
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Golden23, thank you for saying I'm a good daughter. I know I have tried really, really hard to be.
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((((((tinkster)))))) It sounds to me like your mother has a personality disorder - the chaos, the pitting people against one another, the jealousy... You are probably right about the sabotage. That is typical too.

She has been very fortunate having you look after her finances so long. I am glad the financial managers will keep and eye on things and act if necessary. I am sure your niece does not want or need this burden.

As the the penicillin story, it makes me sick that a mother would do that to her daughter. Do you think it is true? You wouldn't want to take it and get a reaction.

As for APS, I think it is responsible of you to let them know. She is living near one of her children who are "happy" to be involved. You have done it for years and need a break. You have done a great job for her.

Time now for you. Many congratulations re your upcoming wedding. Don't let her spoil it. A typical narcissist needs to be the centre of attention all the time and will pull al kinds of antics to achieve that. Be aware.

Hope your QOL improves. You deserve it. Keep your boundaries strong, More (((((hugs))))
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My heart soars like a hawk, reading this. You are WELL out of it, and go- GO! Get married and live what years you have left without this stinking albatross around your neck. .... She doesn't have much money left, so let her p*ss it away, let her and bad brother marinate in their dysfunction for as long as she lives her miserable life. You have done your part, and way beyond. Do keep us informed, though, we anticipate the ending to this story someday...
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We found a nice assisted living location where there were nice little apartments for my dad. He didn't want to move, but had no choice. Once there, though, he loved caring for himself as much as he could, and when he couldn't he had strangers being paid to help and not having to rely on family. Try moving your mom to one of these and sell the house so she has no where to go. It will be best for all of you to not have her right next door to worry about I'd think.
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Ok...I really do need to make myself read the dates! Dang!
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I chuckled when I read your first post, Dustien :-) Particularly because one of the last things my mom said to me before our call ended to was a reference to the "old folks home" that I "threw her in". Not going to dredge all that up again, but it was her idea, and it was a fabulous place and she did very well there.

Lassie, she has about $11K in checking and savings, but about $200K in an investment portfolio. She is young, relatively speaking: 76 years old. Only 16 years older than me. She has a lot of years ahead of her, and will need that money eventually for care and housing. Mark my words. Like I told her today, her current situation is her last chance to be cared for by family, as she has destroyed everyone else.
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Oh, I thought she had only $11K altogether. Because that wouldn't last very long in the best most frugal circumstances!

Well, good luck to all of you. I will always wonder how this worked out for your mom and brother.
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Tinkster, i want to thank you for this thread. Our situations regarding our mothers are very simular. My mother died last July and i felt lots of relief. You helped me tremendously in setting my mind straight and i feel less guilty over everything now. Thanks again, Sandra
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Tinkster, You have gone so far above and beyond what most people would that I am at a loss for words to describe your "goodness".
I would not trust a word that your mother said about penicillin. She has moved from spite into cognitive impairment. Knowing your health problems in the last year, she only now "remembers" that she told you that? Do not trust; verify with your doctor. I'm allergic to penicillin - I react to moldy bread in the house, much less meds. One doesn't want to think that she would try to derail wedding but....
Your mother's personality, as golden noted, is broken. You cannot fix her. I agree with YOU that the wedding which is not centered around her and will be your happy moment is likely the trigger event for the latest meltdown. Again, not your problem. Your mother has a financial manager and the golden child and his wife. There are many avenues for your mother to get care, paid or unpaid, that do not include you.
When people actively refuse to give you the tools to help them and undermine your efforts to provide aid, it's time to stop. There are professionals that can pay your mother's bills or file taxes. I had to tell my husband this year that if his parents want to appoint him a Financial Power of Attorney and provide NO information directly, that I am not obligated, CPA or not, to take care of any and all messes they have created. Paraphrase Maya Angelou: People show us what they are, and we should believe them. You are a good person deserving of a great ceremony and happy life. A toast to the happy couple!
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That penicillin allergy business may not be entirely your mother's fault - I know she said she wanted to stop you taking them, but she doesn't strike me as a person who's all that clear about the facts of a matter in any case.

My younger daughter has 'allergic to penicillin' plastered in block capitals all over her health record and it's a matter of extreme irritation to me because I suspect she actually isn't. Can I get anyone to take this seriously and conduct a proper trial? - can I heck as like. And now she's 29 and it's out of my hands and given that she hasn't even been to the dentist or the optician in crikey knows how long what are the chances... It's, as I say, *very* unsatisfactory.

So, it's possible that the idea originally got put about for other reasons and not by Mother, that's all I mean. I blame big pharma myself, for seizing on the opportunity to market their hugely expensive synthetics.
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guestshopadmin: Your post made me cry. Thank you. I've been holding in the tears brought on by this whole situation, and I guess I got to the point where I couldn't do that any longer. Which is a good thing, as I know we need to shed tears sometimes. Thank you for providing my "tipping point"...

I had nightmares about this all night long. I'm sure you can all guess what they consisted of: Me being horrible and so on. I woke up actually considering continuing to manage her finances. But I talked to my SO about it, and he was able to talk me down. He is a kind, gentle, wonderful human being, and I am so lucky to have him in my life.

So I took a deep breath and continued to prepare for the severing of ties. I have my "resignation letter" prepared (I found good examples online) and will be getting several copies notarized. My mom's will go to her via Certified Mail.

I made a list of all of the places that need her new address, as my home has been her mailing address for over a year. She didn't want to even see the bills/statements, so everything came right to me. As soon as I make my way through this list, everything will be going to her. She, my brother and his wife can pick up where I leave off.

All of her bills are paid. All of her credit cards have zero balances. There is nothing due anywhere. I do have some of her bills set up to be paid automatically, and I will leave them set up that way. They can change it if they want.

I think I should send her a simple list of her bills and how they are paid or something. I certainly don't want to make things difficult for anyone.

I'd been thinking I should include a letter or something with the notarized POA resignation letter, explaining why I'm not going to do it anymore. I've decided not to. I've told her I'm done and I told her why on that last phone call. Enough said.

I need to remember to also go to the USPS website and initiate a change of address for her there, too.

Anyway, I've put my resignation date as 12/15. That will give me time, hopefully, to get her contact information changed, including address and phone number, for all these places before my right to do so goes away.

I'm so saddened by this whole situation, but I'm wise enough to realize that at the core of it all, what I'm truly mourning here is that the severing of ties will mean no more chances for me to prove that I'm good enough for her to love me. I'm mourning the loss of a mother and mother-daughter relationship that I never had to begin with.
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Tinkster - I think you should leave well enough alone. The resignation letter needs no further explanation. I think you are wise to wonder what would happen if you get APS involved. I think you would be opening a can of worms for yourself. Everybody who needs to know - attorney, financial guy - will know.
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Well, with the exception of BCBS (I've been on hold for 53 minutes), I have all of my mom's mailing/billing addresses and her phone number changed. I've changed her address with the Post Office. Even her default shipping address with Amazon and her Netflix DVD delivery address.

I've put together a Word doc showing each entity, when/how I updated her address and who I spoke to, if applicable. In a separate area of the doc, I put a note that she needs to go to her primary bank in person to update her address/phone. There is a branch near her new residence.

I think I can actually, physically feel the weight lifting from my shoulders. It's weird. I must finally really be ok with this, because normally the weight would be feeling greater due to the guilt.

I have no guilt.

Also on the Word doc is additional information about what bills are set up to automatically be paid from which account/credit card and on what day of the month. There's also a reminder note there that says that her Social Security is automatically deposited to her checking account around the 3rd of each month.

I can honestly say that I am handing over a tidy, complete package which is a far, far cry from what landed in my lap a year and a half ago. She had NO ID, had no idea what bills she had, where her money came from or where it was deposited. No idea what assets she had. No Social Security card, and didn't know her number. It was a holy mess.

In the past 18 months, I have gotten her finances organized, made sure all of her bills were paid on time, managed repair/maintenance/cleaning on her other home that was four hours away, and took care of the sale of that property, tracked down a certified copy of her birth certificate, and even called in a favor from our state representative when the license bureau wouldn't issue mom a state ID with her name spelled properly because both first and last name were spelled wrong on her birth certificate.

All of that would have been really hard, even if she had been cooperative and nice to me. But taking care of it all while dealing with lies, deception and vile nastiness... Well, it broke my spirit.

It's almost over now, and I seem to be getting excited!
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Wonderful progress! Who will get the Word document -- bad brother? Maybe mail a copy to him, too -- return receipt requested so there can be no claims that it was never received.

Best wishes on your upcoming wedding!
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My plan is to send the Word doc along with the notarized copy of the POA resignation, via certified mail. I'm not sending anything to my brother. I am contemplating sending it to mom's attorney (who is also my attorney) along with the notarized POA. I know he doesn't need it, but if at some point it's decided to hire someone to manage my mom's finances, the doc would give them a good head start. I guess I also wanted to include it for the attorney as evidence of my due diligence.

I'm started to get excited about the wedding. We have our wedding bands (simple gold bands with something meaningful engraved inside), the place is reserved, I got an awesome haircut/color (it's been over two years since I took the time to get my hair cut), and we got our marriage license last week.

I still have no idea what I will wear, but I'm not a white dress kind of girl :-) It will all work out. I just have to keep from thinking about how I'd always hoped -- in years past -- that my mom would be there. No one is invited except my BFF and Good Brother. We're taking them out to dinner afterwards. Oh, and we both have the day after the wedding off.
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PS -- I am STILL ON HOLD with BCBS. The same phone call. It's been at least an hour and a half. Yay for multitasking!
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DONE with the updating and phone calls! Now I just need to the resignations notarized and mailed to the appropriate folks. Whew.
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Tinkster, I have been following your thread here since the beginning, although I haven't been piping in, but just learning and takung notes from your brave journey like most of us are drudging through, and I think you are so brave, and have done your best by your Mom, more so than most would have put up with! So much of what you have done for her, within the confines of your dysfunctional family, pertains to many of us struggling with the same, sadly!

Now that you have finally gotten all of her affairs in order, man that must feel good! You will be able to turn it over to the next lucky person in line, to try to manage her from here on out, Good for you! I'm happy that you have a wonderful life even coming, your Wedding Day, and that from here on out, you can begin looking forward to happiness in your life and less stress! So I say You Go Girl! Ho forth, and have a Wonderful Wedding Day, and life with your Honey!

You give us all hope, in dealing with hopeless dysfunctional family members!
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Good for you! Snoopy dance!
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Tinkster, you are awesome! Have you ever thought about doing this as a profession?

Buy yourself a dress/outfit/ensemble that makes you feel FABULOUS. AND make sure you buy some un- sensible shoes. ( advice from a 49 year old bride, 14 years married now).
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Letter and notarized forms hand-delivered to attorney's office (it's next door to my bank where I got the stuff notarized). Notarized forms and account information list sent to my mom via Certified Mail. Notarized copies of both forms kept for my records.

I wish you could all hear the conversation taking place in my head:
"You must feel relieved!"
"Yeah. I should. What's wrong with me?"
"Well, you feel like you gave up, and that's not what you do."
"Isn't that accurate though? That I gave up?"
"You tried your best to do a good job, but mom wanted to lie and play games."
"Yep. It's a hard enough job without being sabotaged. I guess I'll be ok."
"Good. Now exhale and move forward."

During my last phone call with mom on Sunday, when all this came to a head, I told her "I can't do this anymore. I have tried my best, and you seem intent on making it harder, if not impossible. Well I just can't do it anymore." I'm guessing she didn't believe me. Truth be told, I get all choked up when I think about her getting Certified Mail. It seems so cold somehow. I dunno. I'm just free-associating here, and for some reason the image in my head of her getting that mail from me is really painful for me.

I have called her three times since Sunday, asking her to call me, as I had a couple of questions. Like "is your lot number really 123?" (I talked to the site manager and verified it), "I'm planning to keep these particular bills set up with autopay. Is that ok?" (I ended up leaving all the autopays in place), and "The post office change of address won't forward your catalogs. Do you want me to call each one and update your address, or do you still feel like you get too many catalogs and want me to leave them be?" (She gets three or four catalogs a day here at my address. As I find the time, I'm just going to go ahead and call each place and update her mailing address).

So I've called her three times, yet she hasn't answered the phone nor called me back. Of course I worry that something happened, and I know that brother and his wife would never call to let me know. But then I realize that she's probably mad because I ruined her game by getting her to tell me about the new accounts at the new bank. So she's just refusing to return my calls, I guess. I was really hoping to talk to her before the certified mail arrives to reiterate that I am, indeed, done with this as I said on Sunday. And that she will finally be free of my "meddling". And that I'm sending the resignation to her by certified mail, because that's what I'm supposed to do.

Instead, I just have this picture in my head of my tiny, sick mother getting certified mail, being freaked out and not understanding what it means.

I know. I know. But still... Crap. Crap. Crap.

It's going to be ok. It's going to be ok. It's going to be ok...
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