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I’ve been using baking soda to deodorize my grandmother’s kitchen sink after she urinates and dumps it down the garbage disposal and the smell is starting to become horrible. Any suggestions on other ways (bleach, lysol etc) to sanitize and and deodorize the kitchen sink??

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My kid's grandparents, at any age, would not take their grandchild to Disney, especially if the other grandparent couldn't join them... :(
That's the Magic Of Disney... Family.... Not to leave one at home....So, you don't go on all the rides. So you Don't stay as long.... But I am sure all of you would have enjoyed the adventure....TOGETHER...... What a memory that would have been.......
I am sorry about your situation,.... but it hits too close to home.....
I blasted this blog/scenario too much.... Hope you find your answers... From what I saw what you texted.... Your Grandma is not capable of doing that....
Look at someone else.... You said she has a very bad disease.... Find another caretaker who will empty her porta potty more often... Perhaps grandma is embarrassed, but the kitchen sink seems to high, and that's why you have smells that will not go away... It's on the floor and everywhere else..... Think about it.
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Sorry, something struck a cord::;

You and Grandpa went to Disneyland... Why? Why couldn't you rent a wheel chair, relax,and take your time.. and grandma, and enjoy the day? You mention grandma and grandpa... WHERE ARE YOUR PARENTS.... GRANDMA & GRANDPA'S CHILD... The one who gave you life?
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The condition that she has (I don’t know how many of you know about Myositis as it is very rare) can get very bad and we are lucky that she is the way she is and not totally paralyzed. YOUR WORDS... I copied and pasted...

Somebody is helping your GM pull or push the porta potty to kitchen to empty it.... WHY?

If she is that strong, get her to ADULT DAY CARE A FEW DAYS A WEEK... GET HER INVOLVED IN VOLUNTARY COMMUNITY THINGS.. If she can lift a porta potty, and drag it down the hall, then she can wear a diaper a couple hours a couple days a week, and volunteer near home... Give her something to do.......

She is not incapable.,,, she may be bored....She may be able to help people wiht the same disease.... What is her age?
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IT IS NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOR.... your GM has myotosis, and can be almost paralyzed per your previous texts...

Question: How far away is the bedroom to bathroom;; Bedroom to kitchen?
Pushing or pulling a porta potty seems a bit much.....

Tell GRANDPa,, Mom/dad/ and caretaker to put porta potty next to toilet... See what happens.

On your day off if you have one... and GP ;AND GM live near by... spend the weekend.... or your days off... one morning to the next morning... see how many times GM pees in porta potty and poops... see what she does with it, and how it actually gets distributed... floor, cupboards,.. sink....

put a go pro in the kitchen... maybe she is not the one throwing it into the sink...

So, if you don't live with GM and GP... who is complaining the most? Your mom/dad, grandma/grandpa, or caregiver? It would be something for video for your eyes only, to see how that scenario turns out.....who and what actually happens from where porta potty is sitting, and the kitchen sink....

Remember... sink approx. is 36" inches high..... Toilet is approximately 18" high.

Shower drain... ground level.. would be easiest... Put porta potty in shower... That may be a solution....Goes right down the drain.... no more messes to the kitchen or in the kitchen or its sink. And then yo can pour whatever you need down the shower drain...

Consult your plumber. What would be best? Don't forget,,, portapotty,, usually means both #1, #2, and perhaps toilet paper...
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Riverdale, I don’t know if the in home care agency follows HIPAA so I’m afraid to ask the woman (I most likely will never talk to her in the near future because like I said in my other post she’s only with grandma early in the morning and I don’t live with my grandparents) if she thinks that this is normal behavior
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Riverdale Oct 2019
I think you could call the agency that hires the aid and ask that this habit be switched to disposing urine into the toilet. You have to say that you have been made aware of problematic behavior and you are concerned with basic issues of sanitary conditions in the home.
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Now knowing how old she is or her current condition, but what I read about myotisis and what you typed, your grandma should not be left alone.. Grandpa takes care of her, but he may need more help too. a person coing into the housre 3 times a day to just get her out of bed doesn't seem like much. Ask dr to evaluate her for palliative or hospice care...

Grandpa needs help too.... to take care of her.
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Myotosis: simple medical definition: Inflammation of the muscles. So, it can be difficult for her to get around...

Kitchen sink = average 36" tall

Toilet - approximately 18" tall

Grandma cannot make it to bathroom on time, so she has her porta potty near bed. I am assuming..

I am assuming it is not located in the kitchen...nor is her bed located in kitchen.

So, remove the portapotty, put a diaper on her and see what happens, or just remove the porta potty. Cover the sink with a cutting board or cookie sheet. Pots and pans.. etc... Fill the kitchen sink up and see what happens.

You know she is just not only peeing in the porta potty, she is pooping too sometimes,, and using toilet paper hopefully for her health?

She has myotosis... How good is her aim? I am also assuming there are no wheels on porta potty, so now you are dealing with an elder person (?) trying to push or carry a porta potty to the kitchen... She may be spilling contents on the way there... And when she picks it up to pour into sink, she may not have the best aim..

Now you are not only trying to figure out how to get rid of the smell, but now it has absorbed into the floors of kitchen, possible halls, and into the kitchen cupboards just below the sink... You may be dealing with a complete kitchen makeover..... to get rid of the smell.... Do you see toilet paper remnants near or around the kitchen sink on the floor, in the hall?

Also, how ambulatory is she? You may kindly guide her with her porta potty and show her physically and with emotional support this needs to go here, grandma, in the toilet. It is too much for you to lift this porta potty into the sink every time you use it...

Since she can do that, move her bed closer to bathroom, and put the portapotty closer to the toilet... It really doesn't matter what her room looks like, give her the best options available so she can stay in her home comfortably and safely... and put a lid on the porta potty and show her the better option.. the toilet.. and she doesn't have to push that down the hallway, all she has to do is::: FLUSH.

Show her again and again... Maybe she will re learn this habit...

As far as the smell... well... it's more than just the sink.....

You really don't want porta potty stuff sitting in the dishes...
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How old is grandma? Someone is not doing their job if grandma thinks she has to empty her porta potty....
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So, question.. she goes in a portapottie, and then she picks it up and pours it into a sink that is higher than a toilet?....

She has the strength to do that?... Or she climbs onto the ktichen sink.. standard height is what? 36" inches...? and squats...

I can see why people are questioning this.. my elder went into the shower... lower than a toilet, convenient because she was in the shower chair....

I know... put a cutting board over the sink... hide it... see what happens then... And if she has a care taker... the caretaker, or helper should guide her to the porta potty or bathroom for her safetly.... If she is actually climbing up onto a counter top like a toddler, that is very dangerous....especially with fragile bones, etc....

Don't know how tall grandma is, but take the step stool out of the kitchen and put it in the garage... Perhaps she will see how difficult it is to climb onto the counter to take a pee...
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NO, Alz / dementia has no boundaries.. The mind goes where it wants...

It is very sad.. and since she has done this so many times without recourse...cause n effect... it is the NORMAL NOW.... It is the new habit for her... Pour it down the sink....

sounds bad... but, how many of you bathe your animals in the sink? Cats? small dogs... etc...

I hope to GOD people DON'T try to SCAM on this FORUM. That really is a low blow....SERIOUSLY.. IF YOU ARE... GET OUT ...
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try filling the sink up with water and oxi clean or bleach, let it sit for a bit, and then pull the drain.... see if that helps.... try some frshe lemon juice or citrus juice to help absorb whatever is left...

borax.... that may help... ask your plumber... you don't want to waste your garbage disposal.....

plumber may have good suggestions.
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boxax, pink box maybe the ticket.. it's a bit more economical than oxiclean... give it a try.
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kitchen sink usually has a garbage disposal... so in her mind..... who really knows what's going on in the mind....

bleach..... and perhaps oxiclean...borax...
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my elder used the shower,,, asked where she should go, she pointed to shower...
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bleach
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BLEACH!
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Riverdale, I have no idea why she does that but it’s VERY unsanitary. Back when she used to do this in the bathroom, she dumped it straight into the toilet where IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO
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Riverdale Oct 2019
So is she too far gone mentally to suggest the toilet and if she receives some care cant they lesd her to that choice over and over again.
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I believe this is a prank post as well. OP never follows our advice. Posts are all the same. Disney’s jackin’ the Forum and those of you trying to help are being scammed. I do like the post about removing the sink though! 🤣🤣🤣 or maybe removing grandma. 👍🏻
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Disney3216 Oct 2019
please understand that this is an issue that is completely out of my control. I can’t tell them to remove the kitchen sink because I don’t live with them and it’s NOT my house. My grandmother is not going into an assisted living facility right now because she’s in a safe and stable environment where she is (at home) and she has support from my family. Again, I am not doing this for attention or to “scam” you. I just want advice
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To all of those who think that I’m doing this as a prank or to get attention, My grandmother really does this and SHE HAS NO CHOICE whatsoever and I think if she was really withholding stuff about WHY she chooses to do her business in the kitchen, my family would probably know and try to get her help. The condition that she has (I don’t know how many of you know about Myositis as it is very rare) can get very bad and we are lucky that she is the way she is and not totally paralyzed. I briefly spoke with the woman who takes care of her (my grandfather and I went to Disney last week and my grandmother obviously can no longer go with us on vacation so she stayed with relatives and this woman who comes to their house 3 days a week to get her out of bed in the mornings) just to introduce myself because I never met her (she seems very nice and caring) but I did not even mention this because I don’t know if the in home care program follows HIPAA. I’m just looking for suggestions here (not to change the situation because it’s obviously out of my control)
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Riverdale Oct 2019
So she is somewhat incapacitated and has help at least sometimes and the urine still has to go down the sink and not down the toilet? I think that is what is perplexing people here who are commenting. Can you answer why the toilet isn't used instead of the kitchen sink.
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I have a new suggestion for the same question you keep on asking over & over & over again:

Call a plumber and have him REMOVE the sink!

Problem solved.
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anonymous839718 Oct 2019
I think this is a prank post. I don’t know anyone who would dump in disposal instead of flushing in toilet.
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Other people have said this before, and I'll say it again. The problem here is not the sink; the problem is the failure to get appropriate help for your grandmother.
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anonymous839718 Oct 2019
This family needs help. Allowing urination in the kitchen is wrong. Get this grandmother an appropriate help. Or perhaps this is an ongoing prank post for attention.
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From an article: Easy Ways to Remove the Smell of Urine
Whether it is the smell of fresh urine or an old one, driving its smell away can really become a difficult task. Here is what you can do:
1. Clean the area with a towel or paper towel. It is always best to immediately clean the area using a towel or paper towel. Wipe the area until no urine remains. You can even make use of old newspapers to soak as much urine as possible. Simply place several sheets of newspapers in the affected area to soak up the maximum amount of urine at one go. Repeat the process until the area is dry.
2. Use soap and water. Once the entire area is cleaned, it is necessary that you use water to thoroughly clean the area.
3. Use a sanitizing liquid. It is best to use a sanitizing liquid in your towel during the final round of cleaning. You can purchase any branded sanitizer from the stores, or you can even make one at your home.
4. Use a black light. This will ensure that you can see any stains that you might have missed during the cleaning process. While using the blacklight, mark the areas of stain with chalk, so that you don’t miss out the stains this time.
5. Use a wet vac with lukewarm water. You should always avoid using hot liquids directly on the affected area of the carpet. Using lukewarm water to wet vac the affected area is ideal. In case you do not have a wet vac, it is always a good idea to rent one.
6. Mix baking soda, peroxide and dish detergent. Make a solution of baking soda, peroxide and any dish detergent of your choice. The combination of these 3 is powerful enough to drive away even the strongest of urine smells. Mix together 8 fl oz. of peroxide, with 3 tbsp. of baking soda and a few drops of dish detergent. Spray the mixture onto the affected area and allow it to sit for 10 – 20 minutes. Later on, brush the area and you will find out that the smell is gone.
7. Vinegar. This is another good alternative to drive away strong urine smell from home. All you need to do is directly spray-undiluted vinegar on the affected area. Leave it for 15 – 20 minutes. Later on, you can even brush off, to drive away from the remnants.
8. Homemade spray. You can even try this homemade solution to remove the smell of urine from carpets and floors. All you would need is a tsp. of baking soda, vinegar, ½ a tsp. of orange essential oil and about 5 ounces of hydrogen peroxide. Spray the prepared mixture onto the affected area. Let it dry completely. Upon drying, you would notice powder remnants, which you can clean up with your vacuum cleaner. If the smell of the urine still persists, then you can repeat the process twice or even a third.
9. Commercial urine cleaners. This contains powerful enzymes in them. They are extremely helpful in removing strong urine odors and the toughest of stains. These enzymes work on the stains and odor-causing molecules and break them down. These cleaners are great if you have aging loved ones in your home.
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Disney3216 Oct 2019
Thank you for the suggestions! I might try to use vinegar or the baking soda, peroxide and dish detergent mix to try to get rid of the smell
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Why not dump in toilet where urine belongs and flush.
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Riverdale Oct 2019
This is a mystery that doesn't seem to have answer.
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