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vedwards52, that is a high increase, what does the rental contract say about increases?
I can understand your frustration. We think grocery prices are high, imagine how much it cost to provide food in a facility. Cost of payroll also went up, along with any benefits that are offered to employees. Insurance liability policies are also going up. The list goes on and on. If the place didn't increase the rent, they probably would need to close their doors.
I agree with freqflyer that this is a hefty increase.
I wouldn't know why you would not ask the facility itself? They are ever so much more likely to have an answer for you than a Forum of strangers from around the world.
First suggestion, then, is that you call the admins to ask the reasons for this huge increase. USUALLY when there is an unusually pricey raise the POA or next of kin is sent a letter with notification of raise explaining why. When my brother went into care the initial packet said to expect yearly raises between 3% and 5%, UNLESS something unusual was occurring. We are all smart enough to know Covid was just THAT, and so was inflation.
Before you speak with YOUR company about YOUR private issue consider these facts:
1. Most ALF and MC are privately owned by companies and Hedge funds and are FOR PROFIT; they don't have the same rules and regulations as Nursing Homes which are mandated to follow both Federal and State rules. ALF and MC are beholden to state law only because they do not accept federal funding such as Medicaid. 2. You will need to know if this raise is a general one, asked of ALL residents, or if it is particular to your loved one. If the latter is the case, then the question is "Why?" That will tell you whether this is a "general room and board raise" or an "individual level of care raise".
I wish you good luck. But you will need to get your answers directly out of the horse's mouth. Hope you'll update us with what your call to the facility tells you.
I consider ALs just like renting an apartment. In my area, there is rent control. No kore than 4%. Check to seebif the State you live in or the Manicupality has rent control. 22% does seem steep.
Read and re-read the admissions contract. It should indicate how increase in rates will be handled, notification process, etc. Imho, if this is a 22% across the board increase to every single person, every single unit, then my guess is, this AL was sold and new owners want to jettison as many folks as possible so get a higher paying resident from here on out so improvements can be done. BUT….. if this increase is only you, then there is something about your care that is way more hands on that what they are doing for other residents. That 20% is for this. If this is what’s happening, please pls realize Assisted Living is way waaaay less regulated as to what at a minimum has to be provided for residents than a NH/SNF will be. If an AL wants to add on starting next month a $800 medication management mo fee; or add on a charge if you want a meal delivered to your room (rather than you going down for meals in dining hall); or charge you for transportation to / from medical appointments, they can unless it’s specifically in your contract as included in rent.
As a caution, if it is that the 20% is specific to you, I’d be concerned that there will be additional increases placed. That you are on this ALs radar for “assessment” as to your level of care. So you ask for pills or mail opened, lots of medical appointments and want transpo to them, aren’t able to get properly dressed on your own so needing help every day not occasionally, that it’s being notated and you will facing increasing costs regularly.
One year my mom's increase was $600/month due to increased needs with incontinence and the need to do more laundry than once a week. The following years did not increase more than $40 /month as she had no further issues.
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
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APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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I can understand your frustration. We think grocery prices are high, imagine how much it cost to provide food in a facility. Cost of payroll also went up, along with any benefits that are offered to employees. Insurance liability policies are also going up. The list goes on and on. If the place didn't increase the rent, they probably would need to close their doors.
In facility, staff rarely ate the food, they would order out or bring their own from home
I wouldn't know why you would not ask the facility itself? They are ever so much more likely to have an answer for you than a Forum of strangers from around the world.
First suggestion, then, is that you call the admins to ask the reasons for this huge increase.
USUALLY when there is an unusually pricey raise the POA or next of kin is sent a letter with notification of raise explaining why.
When my brother went into care the initial packet said to expect yearly raises between 3% and 5%, UNLESS something unusual was occurring. We are all smart enough to know Covid was just THAT, and so was inflation.
Before you speak with YOUR company about YOUR private issue consider these facts:
1. Most ALF and MC are privately owned by companies and Hedge funds and are FOR PROFIT; they don't have the same rules and regulations as Nursing Homes which are mandated to follow both Federal and State rules. ALF and MC are beholden to state law only because they do not accept federal funding such as Medicaid.
2. You will need to know if this raise is a general one, asked of ALL residents, or if it is particular to your loved one. If the latter is the case, then the question is "Why?"
That will tell you whether this is a "general room and board raise" or an "individual level of care raise".
I wish you good luck. But you will need to get your answers directly out of the horse's mouth. Hope you'll update us with what your call to the facility tells you.
BUT…..
if this increase is only you, then there is something about your care that is way more hands on that what they are doing for other residents. That 20% is for this. If this is what’s happening, please pls realize Assisted Living is way waaaay less regulated as to what at a minimum has to be provided for residents than a NH/SNF will be. If an AL wants to add on starting next month a $800 medication management mo fee; or add on a charge if you want a meal delivered to your room (rather than you going down for meals in dining hall); or charge you for transportation to / from medical appointments, they can unless it’s specifically in your contract as included in rent.
As a caution, if it is that the 20% is specific to you, I’d be concerned that there will be additional increases placed. That you are on this ALs radar for “assessment” as to your level of care. So you ask for pills or mail opened, lots of medical appointments and want transpo to them, aren’t able to get properly dressed on your own so needing help every day not occasionally, that it’s being notated and you will facing increasing costs regularly.