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It's a mother/daughter (59 and 31 yrs old) "team" that are joining with current caregivers.
They prefer to work as a team for 2 back to back day/night shifts. I'm fine with that but wondering how to pay. Night shift pretty easy, Mom may or may not wake up to use bathroom. No dementia or wandering involved so sleeping until she presses alarm is no problem.


Ideas for rates? Current daytime rate for my area is $13.00/hr.

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I am wondering why the mom and daughter work together. Your mom doesn't need 2 people at one time. Give a flat rate for the time -- at least minimum wage. Let them know if they decide to stay together, they will be getting less than minimum wage.
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If they're doing 24 hour shifts, you don't pay them hourly.
You agree upon a flat rate pay for the 24 hour shift.
Talk to them and discuss dollar amounts and see what they find agreeable.
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Slightly off topic yet related to what you're doing: my state (MN) says that no caregiver is ever considered a contract employee. This means one becomes an employer and therefore must abide by labor and employment rules and laws, such as withholding taxes from their paychecks, doing quarterly reporting, making sure they have overtime and PTO per your state's laws, and creating W2s for each employee at the end of the calendar year. Please go online and check what your state (or whatever state your LO lives in) to make sure you are not doing anything afoul of the IRS. Also would strongly recommend criminal background checks. Have you thought about what happens when one of your help calls in sick right before a shift, i.e. subs? An agency takes care of all of this extra effort.
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BurntCaregiver Jul 2021
Geaton777,

Really? An agency takes care of all the extra effort?
You certainly have great faith in homecare agencies.
I've worked for several over the years (a few were very big business chains operating in many states) and I can say that it was rare to have a replacement sent when a caregiver is going to be out.
Most homecare agencies offer zero job training or supervision too. They don't spend the money.
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Are these contract workers? Do you deduct taxes, Medicare, etc? Or are you paying them under the table? If that is the case, it is important to get advice from an elder law attorney on how to set this up so it does not become an issue when trying to get mom approved for Medicaid.
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CNA's are paid more than minimum wage. The only time I have heard that aides are paid minimum wage is when they are live ins.

Not sure if Aides get more for night work. You could ask the day people how that works. Or call a NH and ask what they pay.
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Grandma1954 Jul 2021
BethinPa does not mention they are CNA’s or Aides. Just that they are caregivers. If they are certified they should get pay that takes their certification into account. And anyone with certification I would give them time off to maintain educational credentials. (Not paid, but time off)
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You have to pay them at least minimum wage.
I wonder if you really need 2 people on at night? If mom really does not need that much overnight 2 people is a bit much. Would one of your other caregivers want a night shift and the "team" work a day.
Or start rotating all caregivers so that it evens out over a period of time.
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