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I am her Health Care Surrogate but as they won't declare her incompetent it has not come into effect. I believe the home's intent is to prevent me from making the decision regarding hospice and instead to pressure her to enter it in various ways. This allows them to say "we are doing the right thing and following the patient's wishes" and to cast me as a family member who simply refuses to let go. They are asking her almost daily, as far as I can tell, if she wants to enter hospice. I live out of state and am not present (neither is any other family member). She is very weak and has bad days where she expresses a desire to die, she has come to view hospice as a "way out".


I am not anti-hospice and expect her to enter it in the near future, but want that to be my decision, not the home's (even if it's portrayed as hers). One concern I have is that once the hospice team takes control of her care, they will be who decides if she goes to the hospital when she has a problem. Obviously, they are incentivized against it and I do not want to be arguing with them about whether or not she goes in.


I do not know if the home has a financial arrangement with the hospice care company; I believe they simply think it will be easier on them if she is in hospice as they won't be caring for her as much and won't have to be sending her to the hospital as often.


Apart from applying for guardianship, which could be complicated and expensive, does anyone have any other suggestions on how to deal with this situation?

Hospice does not exist just to get more money from care facilities.

Why does it have to be on YOUR terms when she enters hospice? If MIL is mentally sound, it’s her choice.
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Why would you want your MIL to have to keep going to the hospital to be poked and prodded and then sent back to the facility?
Wouldn't you rather that she just be kept comfortable and pain free so she can die in peace?
It sounds like your MIL has already made her decision as she's ready to die, so I'm not clear as to what your hesitation is, unless you are not to the place where you're ready to let her go yet. And if that's the case, that is your issue not your MIL's. Please don't let her suffer needlessly.
Perhaps you need to do some more research about hospice to find out exactly what to expect. They are not the enemy, but are there to help the transition from this world to the next as smooth as possible.
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In my experience hospice is not a “way out” but a way through. Your mother-in-law will not qualify for hospice unless a physician believes she has six months or fewer to live. It is not in their interest to hasten death but there is generally an understanding that the client will not be rushed to the hospital as the goal is providing comfort care in a person‘s last days. I don’t really understand your comment that they are incentivized against it. When someone goes to the hospital on hospice they are typically discharged and often readmitted when they return home.

I agree that you should do some research and choose the hospice you
prefer—this might be a way to feel less manipulated and more a part of the best possible outcome since you anticipate her entering hospice in the near future.
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Kathyintex Jun 16, 2025
Sorry Midwest - I would disagree with your statement. My father has been in an AL facility for the last two and a half years. I can’t tell you the number of times I have been phoned, waylaid, tutored, nor the number of hospice business cards found in my dad’s apartment. I have no problem with hospice, my mother entered hospice for 60 days before she passed *in a different facility* and that one ALSO pushed hospice - but they were very upset when I chose a hospice that was not one they recommended to me. So, in my experience I would say that yes, there is a ‘push’ for hospice in many facilities. Don’t know if it is kickbacks, or an avenue to off-load staff chores and responsibilities. Regardless, to family members, it feels unseemly.
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If mother is constantly expressing a desire to die, then the SNF is listening to her and asking if she'd like hospice services. Hospice is not a "way out".......just a way out of PAIN and suffering at end of life. These hospice comments get exhausting to read after awhile. What killed my parents was old age and disease, not hospice.
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The Facility is not preventing you from anything. Seems MIL is capable of making her own decisions so your Heathcare proxy is not invoked. She can tell them what she wants and does not want. A doctor has to write and order for Hospice. Ask to talk to the facility doctor and see what he suggests.

Hospice is end of life. The facility gains nothing in having them come in. Medicare pays for the service not the room and board. She will be kept comfortable. Morphine for pain and trouble breathing. Anxiety meds to keep her calm. A doctor does not usually recommend hospice unless its needed. It also means, no more hospital visits.

My Mom was in LTC. She was 89 with Dementia. I was told the doctor recommended her getting evaluated for her swallowing problem. This is first sign of the body shutting down. She had already refused to get out of bed and closed her eyes not opening them again. I was not going to allow them to poke and prod her. I said time for Hospice. My RN daughter came and examined her and said it was time. I went to visit her with my disabled nephew who had lived with her and left at 1:30pm, she passed peacefully at 1:50 pm. I have never regretted my decision.
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LoniG1 Jun 15, 2025
I so appreciate your comment. Well stated and spot on Thanks for being a great advocate.
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You deal with it by allowing MIL to make her own decisions.

Hospice provides another set of eyes on MIL and a level of care that she needs now. Don't prevent this help for MIL out of some misinformed ideas that you have. At the very least, you could call the hospice team and discuss your concerns.
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Why do you think she is being pressured instead of wishing to have comfort care instead of life-prolonging care? I think someone in the family needs to visit her asap to understand her condition and her wishes for end of life care, DNR, Do Not Hospitalize orders, etc.
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What in the world leads you to think hospice is "incentivized" to not send your mother to the hospital and have her get care for things that can be treated in Hospice (comfort care things)? When the patient DIES hospice loses. You get that, right? The customer is GONE, just like that.

Your mother has expressed a wish to go now. Please honor that and get her into hospice. This isn't your decision or theirs. This is your mother's decision.
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I think you are sounding supremely paranoid about hospice. I also think you have no experience with hospice.

A doctor has to recommend it for her.
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Kathyintex Jun 16, 2025
Sorry Bulldog, I would disagree with your statement. My father has been in an AL facility for the last two and a half years. I can’t tell you the number of times I have been phoned, waylaid, tutored, nor the number of hospice business cards found in my dad’s apartment. I have no problem with hospice, my mother entered hospice for 60 days before she passed *in a different facility* and that one ALSO pushed hospice - but they were very upset when I chose a hospice that was not one they recommended to me. So, in my experience I would say that yes, there is a ‘push’ for hospice in many facilities. Don’t know if it is kickbacks, or an avenue to off-load staff chores and responsibilities. Regardless, to family members, it feels unseemly.
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The Memory Care facility where my mother lives recommended hospice in February of this year, not because Mom's demise is imminent, but because of her declining condition. The last few months I have been so grateful for the wonderful resources and support hospice has provided. Not only do they send someone twice a week to shower her in addition to the bathing the facility gives her, but the staff also does special things like paint her fingernails, play oldies tunes for her, blow dry and style her hair, etc. She also receives two nurse visits a week, a local pastor visits her and plays his guitar, and a social worker visits to comfort her or listen to my concerns if I have any. Hospice always texts or calls me after each visit and even the pastor calls me and fills me in on his visits with her. I am able to contact them any time I have a question. They have been an advocate to both my mother and me.

Hospice has also provided a special hospital bed, a padded wheelchair, a shower chair, a raised potty seat, all at no charge to us, and even provides the adult briefs, sanitary gloves and wipes, and pays for any medication consistent with Mom's diagnosis. They have also met with me and the facility staff and been a part of the care plan for my mother going forward. Medicare pays for these services and the way it was explained to me, it is something that we are eligible for after working so many years and paying into FICA taxes that fund Medicare.

I was feeling alone and almost desperate before hospice stepped in to help. I cannot say enough positive things about the hospice care my mother is receiving and I thank God every day for their services!
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JuliaH Jun 17, 2025
Hospice painted my mothers nails and she loved it so much I went to the dollar store and bought her about 10 bottles of polish. It became something special for us. I'd go to the thrift store and get her colorful shirts to match her polish. Thanks for the fond memories Lee188! It also helps hide the food she would get trapped under her nails, lol.
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