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My elderly dad has been diagnosed with dementia and has a history of falls; refuses to move in with me. To my face, he is super sweet, nice and thankful when I drive across town every other day to ensure he has enough to eat and has what he needs; I have two sisters that also help on the days I am not there. We stay about 1 to 3 hours and leave once we see all is well. We set up ring cameras to check on him remotely. I was shocked when reviewing them one day to overhear him trashing me to the neighbors, friends, and visiting nurses saying I am a selfish poor excuse for a daughter because I don't come and stay with him all day every day, as well as other hateful critical comments. Regarding my sisters, he says they are very helpful, and nothing like me. My question is this the dementia talking or does he really feel this way and has he always felt this way. Is it possible for someone with dementia to turn it off and on like that; sweet and loving to my face but completely the opposite behind my back. This is hard to hear when I'm doing my best to help him. thanks to anyone who might have experienced anything similar.

Dad refuses to move in with you .
That is GOOD .
Do not take an elder in your home who is going to trash talk you , it could escalate to serious false accusations where you have to defend yourself to authorities .
It doesn’t matter why he does this , you have to protect yourself .
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My parents would drive 50 miles one way each week to help out my grandmother. She had nothing nice to say about them to her neighbors. My uncle lived 3 miles away and rarely visited, usually sent his wife. Uncle was golden.

My advice, tell him you know he is trash talking you to others and that you will be cutting back your visits as he does not appreciate the effort. I don't care if it is the 'disease', it still hurts.
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carlyjax Sep 18, 2025
thanks you made me laugh, one of my sisters lives half a block away from him and my dad thinks she walks on water even though of the three of us she usually is there less time. My other sister and I travel about 40 to 45 minutes each way.
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I'm very sorry this happened to you. It must have been quite a shock. I will read with interest what others say, as there is usually good insight provided.

The only advice I will give right now is this: stop asking your father to move in with you. This clearly indicates that he will make your life miserable if he does. What happens often -- people post it all the time on this board -- is that some adult children respond to their parent's criticism and negativity by stepping up their assistance, in an attempt to win over the parent. Please don't fall into that trap. What you are doing is thoughtful and generous. If your father needs more, tell him he can hire the additional help at his own expense. I'll leave it to you whether to continue the current level of help. You would be justified in stepping back. But don't increase it for someone who doesn't appreciate it.

Sending you a virtual hug of sympathy.
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carlyjax Sep 18, 2025
thank you; yes it was a huge shock. I had read dementia can turn sweet people into mean/nasty people. But what shocked me what that to my face he was the nice, sweet man I've always known, expressing gratitude and thankfulness for all the help and then behind my back says all kinds of horrible things about me. It made me wonder if he had always felt that way about me or was it just dementia. Because he doesn't do that with my sisters, he is nice and sweet with them to their face and behind their backs as well. I could take it if he was mean and nasty to me directly now or in the past. This grieved me so much that I wondered if I ever even knew him. You're correct, my initial reaction was to do even more, buy him special goodies I knew he would like, spend even more time; the result: he criticized me twice as much.
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First of all, most elderly people need something (or someone) to complain about. If there is multiple siblings, there always has to be one who is the villian that the elderly parent turns on. They do this because they want attention and because they're bored. Your father thinks you should be there all day long entertaining him and waiting on him hand and foot. It may very well be that he doesn't want you there all day and really he just wants a reason to complain and get people to feel sorry for him. I'm sorry you're the target. I really am because I know how that is. My mother did the same thing. She used to trash me to anyone who will listen eventhough I'm the only one who helps her at all. I call her out on her crap though, and you should do the same.

Next time you're at your father's house make him watch the footage you have of him trashing you to the neighbor. Tell him that if you ever hear him talk about you again you will stop visiting him, will help him with nothing, and won't even talk to him. Watch how fast he turns it off then. My mother turned it off when I stopped coming around and helping her. Also, her home aides have permission to shut her down if she starts up with tht nonsense. Call him out on that behavior. If he's too far gone with dementia to answer when you show him the footage, he shouldn't be living on his own anymore.
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You and your siblings are "propping them up" allowing them to lead what they may think is an independent life but in actuality is far from it.
At some point one or more of your siblings is going to say "enough, I'm done, I can't do this any more"
That leaves the others taking up the slack.
It might be time to look into either caregivers more often/more hours, Assisted Living or whatever level of care they need to keep them safe.
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This is dementia talking and usually they Target the person doing most of the caregiving because they are the sweet empathetic one . Ignore his trash Talk But I would delegate More responsibilities to your sisters before you burn out .
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Back off and let your father hire help on his dime. Dementia or not, you have a right to common courtesy and respect. The Visiting Nurses should understand about dementia and how it affects the brain. People who see you doing the bulk of the heavy lifting wouldn't pay his remarks any attention. However, it's only so much trash talk you can stand before you start feeling resentment towards your father.

Don't let false guilt prompt you into moving your dad in with you. This will be a mistake. Dementia will only get worse, and he will be required to get a higher level of care that he can't receive at home. People with dementia are prone to waking up at night, turning on stoves, and wandering outside causing the caregiver broken rest and becoming ill themselves.

It sounds like you need to step down and allow someone else to take over. It's time to transition him to home care services and get an aide.
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Ive been there. I know how it feels to actually see someone you are doing all you can for, speak of you like you are nothing. My grandpa would forget that we had cameras in the house (he kept falling so they were generally for safety) and whenever he had a chance he would tell anyone who would listen about how terrible me and my family were. The pest control guy got an entire earful and when I called him out he denied it and then got mad and started threatening me. He told the Fed Ex man that we didnt take care of him, he told the neighbors we werent feeding him, he told my sister on the rare occasion she stopped in that he hated my cooking and that my husband was useless. (He ate everything i cooked, always asked for seconds, and my husband entertained all his whims even after working 12 hour days) When confronted he would deny it all even though it was on camera. It hurt me a lot at first then after speaking to a social worker I came to realize that his horrible personality was just exacerbated by the dementia. I know everyone will say you cant take it to heart but that is easier said than done. This was a man I looked up to as a child and someone I alone was putting my life aside for when everyone else turned their backs on him. Once I started to stand up for myself he got combative and started threatening me and my family. He is now in a MC and tells me terrible things about them, and them terrible things about me. Its clear his mind is in a viscious cycle but thankfully I dont have to be in it DAILY.
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carlyjax Sep 18, 2025
thanks - he sound alot like my dad. was he nice to you to your face? that is was my dad does, he is nice and thankful to my face, just says awful things about me to others. Happy to see me when I get there; in fact if it weren't for the cameras or my sisters/neighbors telling me the awful things he says, I would never know that he said the things he said.
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I work with the elderly people, and if they can find someone to complain about or dog out, pit other people against this one particular person, they will do it. I've seen it on just about every case I've been on. I've had them turn on me for no good reason other than just being onnery. One woman decided she was going to block me on the step and then threaten to call the police and report elder abuse if I tried to move her. I quit that case that very night. Last I heard she is ninety-eight and still going strong. It is amazing how these people can be suffering from dementia, but can still find ways to display their worst behavior, threaten and harass people. However, if we dare try to correct it, then we are the bad guy. I have to be honest, I've had some awful cases. Usually an agency will place an ad online for cases they can't keep staffed. There is no shortage of home health aides. These aides are not working these cases where family members and clients are totally out of control. I've had drunk clients with dementia. I had another client who got drunk and trashed his entire apartment. That bathroom was horrible.

Once they start playing games and stirring up trouble, someone with authority will need to be brought on the scene to make decisions. These people are no longer in charge, and do not get to demand and run the show any longer. They have some rights, but if a caregiver is doing the heavy lifting, the caregiver gets the final say on what gives. In other words, it has to be on your terms.

Old people are very demanding, and will try to run you in circles if you allow it. Get a routine that works for you and stick to it. It is okay to let them know how their behavior is affecting you. Leave the room if you must. Once a client gets to obnoxious with their behaviors, they get care, but I do not engage with the behavior. You will know when someone is really out of it or if they are just doing things to get under your skin. When you work in this field long enough, you will know the difference.
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carlyjax Oct 4, 2025
thanks, question for you as someone who has seen many cases, do you have any opportunities to speak with their families? In reading answers on this forum, it sounds as though many describe parents who were "mean, narcissistic, etc" before the dementia, and the dementia made it much worse. Have you encountered any where that was not the case. This is why I'm so conflicted, my dad has always been so sweet, nice, loving to all his daughters and were it not for the cameras, I would never know the awful things he says about me. Makes me wonder if he has always felt this way on some level, and the dementia just took the filters off or whether the dementia altered his thinking when it comes to just me and not my sisters.
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Nope. He's 2 faced and ungrateful. Stop helping someone that betrays you.
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