Mom had a stroke and has some cognitive impairment but is mostly all there but not sharp like before the stroke. She has some issues with executive functioning and memory loss but not severe. We aren't sure yet if it is permanent. She's seven weeks out from the stroke. This AL facility was only one to allow them to be together. Prior to her stroke she still did a lot, drove, ordered supplies, got groceries, went to library, and helped care for Dad along with having caretakers morning and night and myself helping on weekends and some evenings. Now I have to supervise and help both of them almost all day. She's not bad enough to be in MC and would be depressed in there. He doesn't wander as can barely stand up or walk a little. We didn't want them separated and this AL facility assured us they could take care of both in their AL rooms. But I find myself there all day to assist with one thing or another. I don't know how I can go back to work and leave them alone with just a call button. I hired one of their caretakers to come in several evenings 5-8pm and pay for highest level of care for both of them but we are used to them having that one on one care at home which a facility can't provide. I can hire more helpers to come also in the mornings but most of the time they are just sitting around as the aides at facility do most of the hard work. My three siblings all live on the other side of the country and everyone works and can't fly back and forth to help me out. Feeling overwhelmed. I do companion help, help with their laundry, pay all the bills now, manage their house they left behind, review their medications (sometimes have been wrong). Fetch glasses, toothbrush, clothes from the other room, help put on tv and dvd player etc etc all day. The relief when the caretaker came last night was huge. I can't keep this up every day but I don't see an alternative yet. They just entered the facility a week ago and it's a huge adjustment from their home and I have that emotional stress too from them and also myself. We considered and tried for awhile 24/7 at home but cost is prohibitive and did not trust a caretaker could do all for both alone without me being there all day and night too. Cost is an issue as they do not have huge savings and can last about two years in AL before we have to sell the house. It all happened so fast. Before Thanksgiving it was hard with just my Dad's care but do-able. Now with Mom not firing on all cylinders and needing recovery it is way harder and I wonder why I thought it was hard when it was just my Dad. They are 91 and 95 1/2.
Certainly in your case this is required because you BOTH --you ALL --have formed habits that must be broken.
Speak with administration how best to accomplish this.
There will be no solutions as long as YOU are all the solutions.
If you want to help others giving individuals an opportunity to purchase first you can have an estate sale or auction or both. If they have a large number of possessions it might take 2 different events. Then put the house up for sale. Again I'm suggesting this for anything you or your siblings do not want to keep or your parents won't need. Something will have to be done with it someday anyways. My as well be able to use the money to help care for them and yourself.
If you need a fast sell on the house/property I wouldn't do a reverse mortgage to get rid of the home. If a fast sale is necessary You'd be better off contacting one of those individuals or companies that buy homes in any condition. See what they offer you. They typically pay all closing costs and take care of the paperwork etc.
To get the most money I would try to sell it myself. Advertising it for sale at the sales or auctions for the other possessions. Then running an ad, putting a sign up in the yard. Then if no luck after a certain number of months you cam list with a realtor. You can also auction it at an estate sale or auction starting the bid at the lowest price your willing to take for the home keeping in mind any costs. Your first step is going to be an appraisal no matter which way you go. I would definitely start with the possessions inside. Otherwise your going to have a house full of furniture and belongings with no place to put them or the extra expenses of a storage unit and costs of moving trucks etc to move it. Anything left over you Can donate to goodwill, salvation army etc but I'd start with homeless and womens shelters, teen homes, halfway houses and places like that that seem to be more available for the needy. Especially coats but some will take furniture pieces too when helping people get off streets to a home like HUD. Or the teen shelters etc. And your parents can know that they helped those in need too while helping themselves.
As my sister once said "letting auntie live alone and make decisions because she sometimes has good days is like letting drunks drive because they sometimes make it home."
I'm not sure why you want to buy your parents' home. If it's so they have somewhere to return to, I think that ship has sailed. Just sell it and use the money for their care and their growing needs, as well as for your release from constant care duties.
It isn't just your parents' lives which have diminished, but yours too. They've had their lives; now, it's time to live yours.
You can't make everything perfect for your parents. Sometimes, they'll be stuck watching something they're not interested in because they can't work out how to use the remote, or they'll not have exactly the meal they want because they didn't state a preference. Little things don't matter - just that they are safe.
You can't be there all the time. Either this is the wrong place, or you need to hire extra help throughout the day, using money from the sale of their house. You shouldn't be there all the time.
You can't continue at this pace. Back off and do what only you can do like the the bill paying. List activities for the hired help. Could they check medications? This is a change and your parents won't get the same attention you gave to them at home, but it is about getting their needs met, and keeping them safe. Not all their wants will be filled. That's life. It's also about getting your needs met. You need to keep yourself healthy.
I agree that the staff there will not do things if they see you doing them. Let go of trying to do it all.
Be aware, although it is not ideal in some ways, they may need to be in separate facilities. As we age and develop more and more health conditions, our choices become more and more limited. Sometimes it's a choice between bad and worse, not good and better. It's a shame, but it's a reality most of us will face at some point. As Bette Davis said, "Old age is not for sissies." Neither is caregiving. You have to be tough for both them and you.
My parents had many pieces of property when they were married, and I was raised watching them manage their properties and we also had restaurants.. and the only thing I could think of when reading your issue was possibly renting out the house and not necessarily selling it. And you could make income from that house and work part time. I haven’t heard or read that suggestion yet. You can get a management company to manage the house and vet the renters for a small percentage of the rent. So you don’t have to do all of that work either. Everything will take time. And time is our most valuable commodity. And if you want to spend your time with your parents, I’m not here to tell you not to do that. And at the same time, it truly is very important that you take care of your own health so that you can make the most of your time with them. And give the staff a chance to get to know your parents so that when things do go awry which they will, they’ll be able to know how to handle it. However, saying that, still be VIGILANT. Do not let much time go by between visits.. Surprise them (and I mean the staff). So they don’t expect you on a certain day or time. And keep an eye out for other locations “just in case.” Because you just never know. You are not obligated to keep them at a certain place forever. If there are more than one or max two occasions that something is done completely out of bounds, you have the right to call the local ombudsman and the health department and report them if they’re not doing the right thing. You can do this anonymously as well. And find them another place. No place is perfect. But they deserve to live in joy and peace as do you. I don’t have siblings to help me or a husband to help me. But when I come to my mom’s facility, they know me very well. And they know what I need done and how I need it done. And if things don’t go the right way (as newbies do get hired there too), I am not afraid to let them know. Your parents are in a position where they need someone to speak up for them. And that’s who we are as their children. Like I said at the beginning, this is a very delicate situation and you know your parents better than anyone. It is possible for there to be a balance.
You have multiple tasks and complex problems to deal with. I won’t say “solve” because that implies that it is solvable - which it isn’t. As long as they are living, there will be changes and new challenges. My goals are to, as much as possible, keep balance in my life and constantly re-check my plan of action. It is not an easy thing to do. I too thought it best to keep them together, but I had to accept that once my mother couldn’t walk, that was not practical or possible. So, she moved in with me one state away. He continued living in his house (with my brother) until it was clear that he could not be trusted alone and that he needed the socialization that AL could give and my brother could not.
My take on your situation is this:
1) stop prioritizing togetherness over appropriate care. Maybe your Dad can be in memory care with your mom in regular AL in the same facility? Maybe you care for her in your home while he stays in MC with visits? Make a plan for whatever works financially and care wise concentrating on those two things. If they can be in the same facility, great, if not, you do what you have to do.
2) Finances. I’m sure you know that care costs are high. The cost for two is astronomical. Take a good look at what they have and what they can afford. Research whether they will be able to qualify for Medicaid in the future if they need it. Sometimes pensions and social security payments complicate that. If that is the case, research whether a Miller Trust can work. Don’t count on Medicaid if they own assets. If they need money from the house start working on that. Don’t pay for private aides in AL unless absolutely necessary. Work with the facility to get a better response or find a better facility and f you can. But remember, AL is not going to be one on one. You will have to do some of the lifting - but it should not be heavy lifting and not all the time.
3) Re the house: Get it ready to sell. Clean it out. Assess repairs. Paint as needed. Sell it when it will not be an emergency so it is not a fire sale. You mentioned you might buy it. If you do, remember that if they need Medicaid there will be a 5 year look back. That is not an issue if you can show you paid a fair market price. But a below market sale might be trouble ahead.
4) speak with your siblings and get a clear idea of what they are willing to help with and when. Agree on how the work will be divided and compensated.
5) Do what you can - not what you can’t. Sometimes good enough is the goal because perfection is unreachable. You don’t need to pay gurus or counselors for much of this problem solving. Take breaks, exercise, time for yourself, activities that bring joy. Reward yourself for doing the best you can with a bad situation. But if you do feel the need for outside mental help - seek it out and use whatever resources are helpful.
When they are in care, you must constantly check in with the doctors and nurses, who are prone to mistakes; bathe, dress, toilet, and feed them; entertain them; change their bedsheets; make sure meds are properly administered, and more.
You might need to hire more help to get the care that they need.
- None provide 24/7 so you will have situations where your parents are not getting any / enough attention. You need to clarify what the services are. Staff is managing several / many clients / residents so it is challenging for them.
- In addition, many of these facilities are short staffed (ask about that).
2. Consider / Ask: they may need to be in memory care - or one might need more care.
3. While I understand you may not want to trust a caregiver (where they are now ...) , you need to screen them thoroughly enough to feel you can trust their abilities / judgment. You will have to 'train' them. (I do this work ... I've trained caregivers; it takes time and can be exhausting.)
- The reality is: Some only do for the income and don't care much about their clients. They have kids to feed and can't get other work due to education and/or Eng as a 2nd language so it is challenging
- Some work through agencies; others are independent contractors.
- Ask for references, car insurance / DL, experience, dependability; if foreign born: immigration status
- Create a form of questions so everyone is asked the same question. If you need a list of questions to ask, let me know.
4. As another mentioned, why are you WAITING to sell the house?
You may (very well / likely) need those funds to cover their current and future costs. . . . I recommend you find a realtor ASAP and get the house on the market.
5. You cannot run on empty. You need help for them.
6. While not ideal
* They may need to go into separate living facilities. This sounds heartbreaking although you need to do what you need to do for them.
* You might need to consider moving them further away ... to another facility so they can be together.
7. I would recommend you speak to the social worker on site and/or if that doesn't work out to help you figure out what to do, hire a med ind social worker for advice / support.
You are VERY FORTUNATE in that they have a house to sell - to provide the needed income.
Gena / Touch Matters
There are so many off the cuff assumptions being made here about what's going on, and what to do about it.
For heaven's sake, your parents *just* moved into assisted living. Moving is incredibly stressful regardless of the circumstances. Everyone needs to expect things will be a bit chaotic while going through the normal adjustment period of getting things get unpacked and settled in the new place. This includes the staff getting to know your parents and adapting to the routine that they need.
Give it a week or so of being quasi available onsite and see if things improve before jumping to any conclusions about the facility, the appropriate level of care, and your mother's recovery from the stroke.
My husband has had 2 strokes. He is now 5 years from the last one - and he is still improving, but S-L-O-W-L-Y. The fastest post stroke recovery occurs during the first six months after the stroke with ongoing physical therapy, occupational therapy, and speech therapy. Medicare pays for this - make sure your mother's MD orders this. So don't assume she's already reached a recovery plateau, don't assume that her cognition won't improve, don't assume that parents need to move into MC or Skilled Nursing. Don't quit your job. Don't assume there will be more strokes or TIA's. There are new prescription medications available now that are miraculous preventing more strokes (Xarelto, Eliquis, etc). Ask your mother's MD about these.
Reassess things over the next month - give yourself some time to decompress and don't make any big decisions immediately.
I have a feeling that things aren't as dire as you fear! Maybe things are working out great but you can't see that yet.
If things aren't vastly improved within a few weeks, then you can move into Plan B.
Best wishes. Remain calm and carry on.
It's time to take a step back and really look at your parents and understand what they need vs. what everyone wants. One of the hardest things for aged couples, and the children who manage their care, is to acknowledge when one of them needs more care and then taking the steps to provide that care, even when it means living separately. Your mom may or may not regain more cognitive function, but the fact that she can't remember to push the call button is, at the very least, a safety risk for her and your dad.
So, it's time to look at what options you have to get yourself untangled from the load you're carrying. First, have a direct conversation with the AL administration to see if they overstated their ability to care for your parents in the manner you want them cared for. If they admit they did, you need to find new living arrangements for your parents together or separate them. Bear in mind you might run into the same situation elsewhere.
Second, look at what needs to happen to sell the house to your parents' greatest advantage. They will not be going back there unless you find a way to afford 24/7 care for them. Why hold on to it, especially when the funds from the sale will definitely be needed down the road?
Lastly, as hard as it is to let go even a little, perhaps consider a little counseling for yourself. It might help you gain some perspective about your role. Also, some communities have services that help guide care managers (which you are) through a lot of the things you're dealing with. If not, there are also elder care companies that can guide you.
I hope you'll be proactive to resolve this for your parents and yourself so you can get a little relief.
*I slept there for 10 days when they moved in because I could see they would not get enough attention to be safe or well on the "traditional" side!
I discovered at that moment that I would have to let go of many things AND know my parents would figure out how to cope and I could squawk a couple things at a time. As we were in the facility every day, we got more attention. But we (my mom and I) only stayed a couple hours (all mom could stand). Then we brought in private PT and that gave us more insight to what was needed and another advocate.
After 4 months we were able to bring him home and a different set of caregivers had to be trained. Now it is just my dad, 4 caregivers rotate for 24/7 schedule. I come in 2 weeks every month and suggest what I can. I live in a different state so separating is a little easier than if I lived in the same town.
Separate yourself, take lots of deep breaths, know that taking care of yourself is most important. When you take a step back you can see more clearly. And yes, it is about the little things - finding a place where the remote always goes, adding a little color with cards or ribbon, getting a friend from church or neighbor to visit for an hour each week, bring in favorite snack, call for help to come in when needed. Breathe!
They will not be returning to their home. It is time to sell the house and pay for all the assistance and caregivers you can get to relieve the burden on you.
Your parents may not require as much as you are currently doing for them.
Back off a little and let the AL be their support system. When the AL can no longer meet all their needs, I'm sorry, but it is time for a nursing home.
Your mother's stroke caused permanent brain damage. The dead brain cells will not "recover". It is possible for someone to improve a bit post-stroke, with intensive physical therapy, speech therapy, and occupational therapy (re-learning how to perform activities of daily living). Everything gained from therapy is a Re-Learning, teaching the remaining healthy brain cells to perform new functions. What I'm saying is, your mother is unlikely to ever improve. She will not get back to her previous level of function. This is not temporary.
You need to make plans for their future care, taking into account how much you are able to continue to do for them. If you are already overwhelmed, this is not sustainable, and something must change.
You say they are not checked on every 2 hours as promised. If you are not getting what you/they are paying for, speak to the Administrator. Approach this from an angle of “I understand the shortage of caregivers ….but…… I can’t be here all day”. Try not to be too aggressive with Admin., tho’ I’m sure you could scream right now.
I suggest talking to an Elder Care lawyer re selling the house. This could involve huge capital gains tax, depending on your state of residence. Here in CA, one of the kids could live in it for 2 years and then sell. It’s complicated so really get professional advice.
All this from an 83 year old of sound mind with a husband with early dementia. We’ve had time to work thru this. For you it’s harder because of the suddenness of the breakdown.
it’s a huge adjustment for Mom. The AL really needs to get her into an activity or two so she doesn’t feel like a lump on a log.
All the best to you.