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My dad has a history of doing nothing about his health until it’s too late/he’s in crisis. Then my mom and I end up taking care of him. This has gone on for years.


For years and years he refused to go to the dentist. Well about 7-8 years ago, his plate broke so he had no choice but to get help with his teeth. But by then his mouth was in such a state that the dentist had to remove 8 teeth at once so he could make a new plate. And since then Dad has never been the same. He was unable to eat properly because of mouth pain, the new plate not fitting, and so many other issues. So he lost a TON of weight.


That was the beginning of extremely rapid physical decline for him. He never recovered from that experience. He is now skin and bones — 128 pounds; he weighs less than me, his youngest daughter!!! He’s extremely weak, frail, and tired all the time now.


Another contributing factor to his decline was a hormone treatment for prostate cancer. Side effects of this treatment are loss of appetite, loss of bone and muscle mass, and cognitive decline (among other things). Dad has all of these side effects. He’s no longer taking the cancer treatment, but the damage is done.


He has also developed several bulging discs in his lower back. So he’s in pain all the time and the pain drains his energy.


Mom and Dad moved to an assisted living facility at the end of 2024. And since being there, he seems to have withdrawn even further. He’s in pain all the time and barely eats because he struggles to chew his food (and could be suffering from loss of appetite due to the cancer treatment). He is so tiny now. He doesn’t engage with people anymore like he used to. He has always been very charismatic. But lately all he wants to do is sit in his chair in their little apartment and sleep between meals. He has no desire to do anything. Mom and I think he’s suffering from depression. They gave up their house and now all they have is this little apartment. He is not coping well.


The thing I really wanted to share is about his stubbornness. Meals are served on a schedule at the facility. Breakfast is at 8am. So my father pushes himself (and my mom) to get up at 6:30am every morning to go to breakfast. That might not be a big deal for some people. But my parents are night owls. So this is a huge huge adjustment for them. They’re going to bed earlier now. But even so, they are tired all the time. And it’s clear that my dad is wearing himself out. I was with them on Mother’s Day and after we had lunch, he sat on the couch and fell asleep. He looked so haggard and pitiful… He’s absolutely exhausted. He didn’t even want to watch Mom open her Mother’s Day gifts.


I’ve tried to tell him that he doesn’t have to get up so early for breakfast, that he’s not getting enough sleep, and he’s wearing himself out, that they could arrange to have their breakfast brought to them so they can sleep later. But he will not listen. He’s adamant about going and he doesn’t seem to understand that he’s hurting himself.


This is exhausting for me because over the years Mom and I have had to fight with him to take better care of himself. He just refuses to listen.
The other thing that I fear will be a fight is getting him to go to the doctor and get injections for his back pain. The doctor diagnosed him with bulging discs probably about 9 months ago and prescribed a series of injections to ease the pain. Dad has not gone back to get the injections. If he would get the injections, maybe that would reduce his pain and improve his quality of life.


It’s so difficult for me to go over there and visit my parents in the facility. Watching both of them decline has been excruciating. But especially watching my dad has been unbearable because I really believe he could improve if he would just do what the doctors etc recommend.


I know it’s his decision. But is there any recourse for us here? This is incredibly difficult.

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He’s 90 . His stubbornness will not change . Let him do it his way . If Mom doesn’t want to get up early , it’s up to her to say “ No”.
At least they are in assisted living , and not living unsafe at home .
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It sounds like it may be time to bring hospice on board for your father, so he can be kept comfortable and die in peace.
Your father is tired and shouldn't be forced at this point to do things that he doesn't want to do or that will only prolong the inevitable, which is his death.
Instead call hospice today and have them come out to do an assessment on him, and let him live out his days in comfort and peace, without being poked and prodded by any more doctors.
He deserves that much don't you think?
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I’ve experienced what you are going through. I know how it can make you feel helpless and even angry. But as others have said, it doesn’t help us to want more for our LO than they want for themselves. My 91 year old fil broke his hip last year, did very little pt so was kicked out of his SLF. He went home to give up. His doc told him, “if you don’t get out of bed, you’ll be dead in 6 months”. It only took 4. But it was what he wanted. You are absolutely right when you say it’s his decision, as excruciatingly painful as it is to watch.
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WantTheBest24 May 12, 2025
LucylmHome - Thank you so much for taking the time to read my long post and respond. I really appreciate it. This is so hard. My heart goes out to you and all the other caregivers who have experienced something similar. God bless!
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What are you trying to fix? He is at the end stages of his cancer journey. His body is shutting down. He is in pain and he is suffering. Can you begin to request a hospice consult and see if he has an interest. At least, he could receive better pain control.
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WantTheBest24 May 13, 2025
MAcinCT - I think you’ve misunderstood… It would’ve been impossible to share everything here. That’s why I didn’t go into this. But the reality is his neurologist recommended he get off the cancer treatment because of what it’s doing to his cognitive function. He’s also nowhere near needing hospice at this point. The cancer has been under control for years - undetectable psa. So he is not at the end stages of his cancer journey and his organs are not shutting down. For now we will continue to monitor him and seek alternatives if necessary. The pain he is having is from several bulging discs in his back. I just want to ease his pain. That’s why I reached out on this forum. There are many things that I cannot share here. I was just hoping for encouragement, support and compassion from this community because this season is one of the most difficult I’ve ever experienced.
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Have you considered counseling? Accepting this stage of his life might be difficult for his family, but a 90 year old who has a poor quality of life has the right to live as they wish, assuming they are competent. Allow him to sleep, eat and live his days as he wishes. Regardless of what he does, he’s at a point of life that he faces his mortality. People handle it in different ways.
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Please tell your mom that she doesn't need to be held hostage to his time frame

Get some instant oatmeal, bread for toast, whatever they like for breakfast. Tell your mom to do what she pleases, sleep in and eat when she likes.
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Your dad is 90. Let him sleep and leave him alone. He deserves to go out of this world however he wants to: I myself never want to get to 90.
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ElizabethAR37 May 12, 2025
I'm not sure that I do either--and I'm 88 now. There's a fine line between "living" and "existing", IMO.
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Talk to him and his doctors about starting palliative support. If he won’t accept the shots, they could hook him up with a fentanyl patch. My MIL was in desperate pain after several compression fractures in her back. The regular doctor was nervous about increasing her OxyContin dosage but a pain specialist switched her to a fentanyl patch and it was a huge relief. She was able to enjoy life again instead of wanting to die from the pain. Injections to the back are a bit scary but a patch is even easier than taking pills. Also it might help with his mouth pain.
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Igloocar May 21, 2025
Before he can begin using fentanyl patches, he would need to be on an oral opioid and develop some tolerance. Your MIL was taking OxyContin before fentanyl was prescribed. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a solution, but it couldn't be an immediate solution, but not an immediate one. He would first have to agree to be on a strong oral opioid for a considerable length of time.
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I know it's hard, and you are a conscientious daughter. I'm sorry you're having to go through this.

Your father long ago chose the way he preferred to live his life. You, mom and siblings stepped in and rescued him. Then it happened again and again and on and on. This is your family dynamic. Push, pull, push, pull. This is not meant to be blaming because it isn't your fault, but: Dad controlled you and the family by his behavior, and that might have been helped by family counseling when you were a child. Now it's too late, and the push-me pull-you continues because that's the only way you know to relate to each other. He controls, you react. He controls, someone enables.

I believe that if dad were in enough pain, he'd go get the shots.
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I spent my life as an RN and saw my parents into their early 90s, and am here to tell you that when they passed I felt nothing so much as relief for them, that I no longer had to fear for what was coming next to annoy them and give them pain and further losses. I hope that the same will happen when your folks pass.

I would not concern myself so much with the weight. Being of lower weight can actually help one live much longer. My own partner is 123 # at 84 and gets only complimented on how clear and healthy his arteries are, and told not to worry about his weight. We don't anymore. It is also normal to sleep more with age.

Your father is now in the last stages of his life. He has battled a cancer and he sees a doctor for pain care help. It may be wise now to think in terms of palliative care and Hospice for extra help and support in this, his final stage of life. Be certain all advance directives are in place. Speak honestly with a Palliative care or good Gerontology specialist about the final stage of life and how to make it the most comfortable you can until the end comes.

I am sorry; now is the time to concentrate on suffering and comfort care and pain relief. Both Palliative and Hospice can help a lot with that.
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