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Hi. My mum has a older friend, aged 85, who is being kicked out of his nursing home. From what I know it's because if the fact he keeps going out for walks without any warning or telling anyone. He's paying properly too. They've given him two weeks to get a new location, and his friends won't accept him, nor his grand/children. I do know he's not happy with the place and have thought of moving to another one, but I was wondering if the nursing home can do this legally.

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The door is not locked...? That is shocking in itself.
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NH are in a difficult position. They need to be able to keep you safe, but also they can't lock the front door. I, for one, do not want Mother going out the door unaccompanied.
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Your area might have a Long Term Care Ombudsman Program. The Ombuds are sometimes paid, sometimes volunteer people who know the nursing home rules, rights & responsibilities and can advocate for residents' rights, as well as help them look at their options. If you want to contact them, you can contact your Area Agency on Aging to find out how to get in touch with the LTC Ombuds (a great searchable database of nationwide resources is the Eldercare Locator at www (dot) eldercare (dot) gov. Although this website is just for the U.S.- you said "mum" so you may be British or Canadian, so in that case my suggestion may not have been helpful. Best of luck to your mum's friend!
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I have learned alot in dealing with my fathers issues. I was told that with new state laws implemented in July (not sure if all states or just PA), but it is harder now to get someone into "long term"care facility and if they run out of money and the home don't want to accept the medicaid, they will try to find another place for them or its up to you. Even though my father does a little wandering at night, repeats forever the same stuff, he does not qualify for a nursing home BUT may qualify for an assisted living. IS your dad doing the sundowning, maybe that facility as someone else mentioned does not have a lock down unit. I have seen that and my father is not ready for that, but I am sure some people do require it. Contact your office of aging to find out where he might qualify and see if the home will "help" you in finding another place for him. God bless and best of luck.
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Is your mum in this place? All of the above is speculation. Is mum using this as an argument for not going into care?
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I wonder if this patient was "self pay" and if his money is running out. They may not want to accept him as a Medicaid patient as they often charge fees to "self pay" which are higher than what Medicaid will pay. This is where they make their money (as well as the denial of care options which are costly ie. full staffing). He may have memory issues they can claim they can't deal with that level of care etc. Most commercial nursing homes run on the profit motive and therefore it will "call the tune".
At 85 years old he is crossing over to an age bracket which will demand more not less care, perhaps the home wants patients who require minimum care.
However, why would an elder go to a nursing home unless they need lots of help with those daily living chores. Most enter at the very end of their lives as no one "volunteers" to live in a home.
If this man could still take walks independently ---why was he in the home? Lots of questions with this situation.

I would check on the policies for this home, because your mother is in there. Will she be forced to leave? Get their licensing documents from the state agency which oversees them and then get their literature for families compare them. Talk to other family members visiting their elders, are they happy with this place or not. Is your mother and the other patients getting the care they need.

I will say a prayer that his 85 year lands in a proper setting but if no one is helping him from the family, it looks rather unlikely to me that he will be helped by this staff if they want him removed. Very unsettling but each elder needs a family member looking out for them but many have none.
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protections against unfair transfer or discharge:

You can't be sent to another nursing home or made to leave the nursing home, unless any of these are true:
It's necessary for the welfare, health, or safety of you or others.
Your health has improved to the point that nursing home care is no longer necessary.
The nursing home hasn't been paid for services you got.
The nursing home closes.
You have these rights:
You have the right to appeal a transfer or discharge.
The nursing home can't make you leave if you're waiting to get Medicaid.
Except in emergencies, nursing homes must give a 30-day written notice of their plan and reason to discharge or transfer you.
The nursing home has to safely and orderly transfer or discharge you and give you proper notice of bed-hold and readmission requirements.

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Facilities are licensed for various levels of care and when a resident requires more care than they can provide a "request" to leave would be common.

It sounds like this facility is unlocked and your mums friend 1-doesn't want to be there and/or, 2-doesn't remember he lives there and is wondering off and may be unable to find his way back. In this instance, it's time for a locked facility for his safety.
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You'll never know the true reason for this unless you are his family or POA.. There's probably more to his story..
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