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Hi everyone . Compliance aged situation and I need help pls. My mom lives in cali and I in NY. Been trying to get her here for years but she’s lived in her own in an apartment that was in the r palisades. Before fires she was very week and collapsed and they put her in rehab for 90 days part of issue is she couldn’t return back to her home bc of fire/ mudslides. Didn’t want assisted living. After 90 days there at discharge meetiibg. Told discharge planners she was going back to her home (?) but it wasn’t ready so her pt caregiver took her to her own house . Big mistake - not appropriate care. My mom eventually went to an assisted living and fell, broke femur and had successful surgery and spent one week in rehab . They want to move her to acute rehab and I’ve been pestering them about wher she’s going , her choice and a guarantee that Medicaire will pay bc of previous stay . Today after 3 calls they call me to tell me no one will take her bc she’s out of days. They moved up her discharge date to next week from today . They are telling me they “ don’t have staff to have a dedicated casemanagwr so it’s been messy!??my questions are: 1) did previous facility have an obligation to tell us about the 90 day thing or track and inform us ( I had no idea til I found it this week2) if she just needs PT and daily help w bathing etc- she gets that in her assisted living. Why couldn’t she go back to assisted living and then have Medicaire pay for daily PT ( they are telling me she’d go to rehab and get 45 min a day if that- big deal) .3) at what out would asstd living tell her she has to leave ( my dad was in assisted living and bedridden and on hospice but that was PA 4) the assisted living told me they were getting regular updates but this casemanager didn’t seem to know anything. . 5) what else can be done about the Medicare thing. She just got out of the last rehab in March. They said there needsto be 60 days in between. Isn’t it differ t this time bc she is recovering fromsurgery bs last time that was just illness/ weakness I also should note that the current acute care rehab DROPPED her onto the floor while putting her in bed - I’m not Sue happy but can I use that in any way? I feel like my mom’s being passed around. Part of it she brought in herself . She doesn’t let me get too involved. But I am. I can’t go out bc I just started a new Job . Sorry this is so long.

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It sounds like she no longer qualifies for AL and she is in denial. They cannot discharge her if is unsafe. Rehab is trying to pressure you to take responsibility. A doctor should be able to confirm her level of care and needs. Do you have POA? If not, the rehab will petition the court for an appointed guardian where she lives and the application for Medicaid will proceed. It will be too difficult fot you to do it at a distance. Again, she remains in place if unsafe. They will bill or try to bill. She will be placed....somewhere. The guardian will proceed to liquify her assets and home. All while collecting professional fees charged by the guardians business.
You should tell mom that she cannot be discharged until a doctor says she is safe. Try to not mention discharge to home.
I recommend that you try to zoom the plan of care meeting. Plan to visit but I doubt you would be able to stay for weeks. Ask her that if she stays in LTC what personal items you should fetch. Include a few family photos and photo albums that generate conversations in LTC. This is your time to take any personal moments back with you that are not high value items. However you might want to remove any jewelry items before a liquidation. Those item values can ne appraised.
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I think the facility should have told you that once the 21 days was done, you would have to start paying out of pocket based on the percentages. We were always advised when the 21 days were nearing.
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Medicare pays 100% the first 20 days, 80 to 100, 50%. She can be discharged at any time during that 100 days.

After 100 days Medicare will pay no more. If Mom wants to she can pay the full rate per day, which was $300 a day for my Mom 8 yrs ago. Unless Mom has a good supplimental, she has a big bill now owed. If she has not gotten better in 90 days, she may be at her plateau.
Meaning she will not progress any further than she has. If she is too much care, the AL may not take her back. They are not skilled nursing nor do they do two person assist. Mom may have to be placed in LTC or a SNF on her dime. If no money, with Medicaid paying.

Even after 60 days there is no guarentee Medicare will pay if they feel Mom is as good as she will get.
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It’s hard to fully know the situation while being long distance. It may be worth having someone local go visit to more understand all that’s going on. Sounds like mom’s caregiving needs may now be beyond the scope of assisted living, she may need nursing home level help and care. It’s not unusual in rehab to only receive a brief amount of therapy per day, this is due to the limitations of endurance of the senior, the schedules of the therapists, and what insurance will provide. My dad did several times of inpatient rehab, none were intense therapy. Medicare requires therapists be able to document progress, when that stops they no longer pay, this may have occurred for your mom. I wish you well in finding the best plan in a hard time
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