Just found my father (83) on the floor stiff, eyes open, kinda panting, not answering. He came to saying he wasn't ok what will happen?

Kacynichols, welcome to the forum as I see this is your first posting. Just curious, why didn't you dial 911? My gosh, your Dad could be having strokes. The more time you waste not getting him to the hospital the more complex his case will be.

GET ON THE PHONE !!

Agreed. Call 911 & have him checked over.

He made me promise to let him die at home and refused medical treatment I don't want to go against his wishes I'm so torn I've called the nurse

Don't even ask him. Just call 911. Have the EMTs evaluate.

Ok I will have the emt check him thanks everyone

Is he on hospice?

If he's on Hospice, you call the Hospice nurse line, not 911, because he's decided not to accept treatment .

I'm sorry, I didn't see that this was a hospice question.

I've talked to the nurse already he in no pain and has refused medical treatment I was told myself to be prepared for the end I was wondering what will happen physically next to him until he does pass and if there was a time line of events I should know ?

Is a Hospice Nurse coming to check on your Dad? I would think since there has been an episode you could request a Hospice Nurse to check for changes. You could ask her after she evaluates your Dad, her opinion of what is going on and a timeline.

My mom is like your dad,, complete DNR. She has had several TIAs ( small strokes).. Knocks her out for awhile, then she sort of goes back to normal. This has been going on for several years..

Kacy, I didn't realize this was part of a Hospice situation. Sorry I barked at you for not calling 911. Glad you talked to the Hospice nurse.

Your question about a time line would be best answered by the Hospice nurse when she comes over to visit your Dad. They are pretty good at giving you an estimated time.

So sorry this is happening to you. Your Dad might rally, as that is common, thus be talkative, want to eat, etc. but a day or two later he will go back to how he was before the rally.

One thing to do when Dad is asleep or in a coma state is to tell him it is ok for him to go... that you will be ok because he taught you everything you need to know, and that you love him. It will reassure him that you will do fine.

I’m so sorry Kacy!
My MIL is on hospice and probably near the end. Unfortunately no one can tell us what the end will be like. It’s different for everyone. I’ve been seek answers myself about the end and there is no answer, death is different for everyone. There are signs you can look for that show the body is shutting down but from what my MIL is experiencing, there is no real timeline. Some of the symptoms she began experiencing a month ago are symptoms that usually occur 1-2 weeks before death. She’s had Others that occur within days. It’s a month since her digestive system slowed down. So I have basically given up looking for signs & trying to get a timeline. The hospice nurse can give you information and their opinion. There is a booklet by a reputable hospice nurse called “gone before my sight” that gives symptoms and a general timeline, I found it helpful but the timelines have not applied when it comes to my MIL. Again I am so sorry. Wishing you & your dad peace.

kacy,
I hope the rest of the night is quiet for you and your Dad.
(((Hugs)))

You stated that you talked to a Hospice Nurse? The Hospice Nurse needs to evaluate your Dad since he experienced a major change in consciousness and because his eyesight seems to have changed.

Has your Dad had these type of episodes (lying on the floor with stiff open eyes, panting or labored breathing and unresponsiveness) since he was went on Hospice or are these something new? If they are new, then definitely, the Hospice Nurse needs to see him as it effects their plan of care for him.

Here are some websites that list symptoms that might occur as the body begins to shut down in preparation for death. Talk more with the Hospice Nurse about any symptoms that might be specific for your Dad.
www.webmd.com/palliative-care/journeys-end-active-dying#1-3

hospicenet.org/html/preparing_for.html

www.caring.com/articles/signs-of-death

Please keep us updated on your Dad's health. God Bless!

Kacy, I give you credit for having the strength to honor your father's wishes. It can't be easy to see him in turmoil and know that you can't call for help b/c it's against his wishes.

If he does pass tonight, I hope that it's peaceful for both of you.

My dad fell 4 more time Monday night the nurse came he has had a stroke in his left hemisphere and has a subdural hematoma. He has lost all control of function and cant swallow. He thinks my son is his brother that has past and sometimes he sees a lady that isn't there. He also has a dvt in his right leg. Doing everything possible just to keep him comfortable now . Thank you all for the support it helps so much

Oh Kacy, I'm so sorry things are going this way. (((((Hugs))))))

Dear Kacy,

I'm so sorry to hear of your dad's condition. Thinking of you and your family during this difficult times. Sending prayers and hugs your way.

Kacy, I'm sending you comforting thoughts as you and your father navigate this rocky terrain along the end of life road. Do you have any support to help comfort YOU?

You must be a strong person to handle such devastating medical news; I hope you're able to take enough time for yourself so that you can maintain your own strength. And I hope you and the medical staff are able to find ways to comfort your father; this must be such a challenge for him.

Im so sorry for whats going on right now. I think your right in wanting to make sure hes comfortable, tell him how much you love him and maybe talk to him about how proud you are to be his daughter and that everything is going to be just fine. And whatever happens youll be right there with him. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your dad. Take care.

You’ve made a good decision recognizing that your dad needed hospice. I am sorry all this happened.
Glad you all are keeping him comfortable on this his last journey.
Give him lots of love. This is so stressful for you. This too shall  pass. Thanks for being such a wonderful daughter for him.

My Mother ended up in the ER twice for deydration and the symptoms you mentioned sounded like her ( the second time) You might want to push fluids . One or 2 bags of iv fluid fixed her right up

Kacy, I am so sorry. I hope you're feeling some peace and gaining some strength in that you are following your father's wishes. It's still hard, I know, from when I went through this last month with my mom. {hug} to you.