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I live in a small home. I'm a single mom who was married for many years to someone who was not interested in home life, and had anger issues. We divorced and when it was over I was finally at peace, as was my child.
Finally we were free of this terrible gloomy cloud and constant anger.
After a few years it was time for me to find someone new, and I did. I invited him to move in. He's sweet and kind and we love each other. And he is so caring and respectful of my child always considering her feelings.
My hope was that he and my child would get to know each other and grow close. But we needed some time to spend together, just the 3 of us. But a month after my fiance moved in -- dad also moved in.
Because he could no longer live with a family member and didn't want to be alone. This was the natural choice. And he asked if he could stay a few months, which we knew meant forever. He is very active. Very friendly. And while my ONLY requirement was to find something to do. Fast forward, it's been almost 9 months and he hasn't. At first he wanted to go with me EVERYWHERE, because that's what we did when he visited - but I can't do that all the time, I need space, and privacy. I feel like his resistance to live independently is detrimental to him, and all of us. I've told him it's unhealthy. Many, many times. He doesn't see it that way. He feels that this is normal to move in with a child, and there is nothing wrong here. I think it's just an old school mentality. I never want him to feel unwelcome, or unloved. But it is taking a toll on me, very much. I'm supposed to start a new chapter, I have a new man in my life - and there is no privacy. Not to mention I had to have about 100 talks with him to stop making rude comments about him. And the comments, seemed more about him being upset to not be in the spotlight more than anything.
I am not comfortable in my own home, and I work too darn hard for this to be the case. I am very strong, but this situation has me feeling so deflated and upset. I feel hopeless, and sad for all of us. And scared that each relationship in this house is taking a toll. I know I sound juvenile, but this situation is not healthy or fair to any of us, especially me. I already went through hell with my previous marriage and I just want to be able to start a new chapter. I don't know what to do. Honest talks don't help. Total freak outs just make me look crazy, which I am getting there. This man has NO interest in being his own person and having his own life. I see his and my relationship getting worse and worse. My fiance and I have no privacy so that's a terrible start to our life. My fiance and child's bonding process was disrupted.
We all love him, but I feel like this is a toxic situation. Please please please, any suggestions would be so appreciated. I am losing my mind. I am afraid that I'll be losing my relationships. I am losing my focus. I feel like I'm about to lose everything. I feel total burnout - and I am the breadwinner - that can't happen. Please any suggestions would be appreciated.

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You are correct when you say that you've worked too hard to get to a place of peace, to now allow your dad to disrupt it. It's not fair to you, your child or your fiancé. Shame on your dad for thinking that what he is doing by continuing to live in your home is ok. He needs to go and get a life of his own.(away from you) And the sooner the better. You're going to have to put your big girl panties on and remind him that his stay was intended to only be a few months and those "few months" are now over, and that it's now time for him to get on with his life(out of your house) and you with yours.
This doesn't mean that you don't love your dad, but because you do, you want what's best for him and for you, and living together just isn't cutting it.
So give him a months notice(and mean it), and if need be, start looking for either some senior apartments for him, or an independent living facility for him to move to. That way since he's so social, he can be around other people his own age, and make some new friends. I think given the chance he would really enjoy that type of environment. Be strong, and don't take no for an answer.
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Find a nice Independent living if he can afford it or a 55 and up apartment. Both have activities for Seniors. He will meet people his own age.

Tell him what you said here. Sorry Dad you need to find a place of your own because I don't feel comfortable in my own home. With daughter going off to college its time for me. I want to work on my relationship with my BF. Can't do that when my Dad is around.
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When you got divorced, you realized love wasn't enough. You needed more. Now, you realize something similar with the intrusion of your father & you allowing him to move in & disrupt your entire life: I love ya dad, but ya ruining my LIFE. It's not about love; it's about boundaries and being an adult and wanting your own space, your own privacy and your own relationship with a new man w/o your father making rude remarks to him in his own home.

And you now see that keeping dad with you in your home will only ruin your relationship forever. That's exactly what happened between my mother & her mother after she moved her in due to 'old world family obligations' and all that horse manure. They were like oil & water, the two of them, and fought like animals. They ruined what little relationship they once had, and they also ruined MY childhood by fighting all the time. IDK about your daughter, but she's entitled to a good childhood here too! Children pick right up on 'toxic' relationships and it's not a good environment for them, either.

You DO NOT sound 'juvenile' whatsoever in your post, either, by the way. You sound exhausted, and rightly so!

Time for dad to move into a senior housing complex where he can make rude remarks to all the other seniors to his heart's content. You'll go visit him once a week, or whatever, and you'll have dinner together. You'll take your life back & dad will develop a new life of his very own, where he gets to socialize and do things his way, in his own space, with his own friends or lack thereof, based on his own behavior. That's what adults do. They don't move in with their adult children so they can ruin their lives when they get old.

Make it happen. And remind him; it's not that you don't love him; it's about your need to live your OWN life in your OWN home. And you're not wrong for wanting to do so or expecting to do so. "Old world thinking" is now dead and gone.

Best of luck!
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SeekingAdvic Aug 2021
thanks, I appreciate you. :-)
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Set boundaries with your father and don't let him blow through them. Let him know you love him, but his living with you is not working out. You have a life to live and you want him in it - just not 24 hours a day.

One of the boundaries should be to be civil and not rude to your fiance.

Give him a month to find new housing and be willing to help him. He needs to get his own life and not think your life is his life. He needs to find friends or acquaintances of his own. Maybe he can find an apartment in senior living, IL or AL depending on his needs.

Be prepared, he may take this badly and get mad but stand your ground as kindly as you can. Best of luck to your and your family.
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You need to stop enabling your dad. He will only continue to live in your home and make rude comments about your fiance if you let him.

You are the one who wants to start a new life. You are the one who wants him to live on his own. Therefore, you are the one who needs to start finding senior living communities within his budget, narrow them down to 2 or 3 that will suit him, take him to tour them, and tell him he needs to pick one. Since he wants to go everywhere with you, you should have no trouble getting him to tour senior residences.

You need to tell your dad that he's already been there X amount of months, which is more than "a few", and it's time for him to start a new life for himself just as you are starting a new life for yourself with your daughter and fiance. You need to tell him that it's not up for discussion - you have made your decision about what's best for you - and he needs to respect your decision.
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Time to look for assisted living apartments near you. Dad needs to find more outlets for his social needs than just you, especially since he is rude about your living situation. Remind him that you agreed for him to stay for "a little while" and that "a little while has passed." Tell your dad that your place is just too small for everybody and that he would be happier with his own place. Tell him you love him and will help him move into a new place with a bunch of potentially nice neighbors to socialize with. Help him move, make it as positive as possible, and don't feel guilty.
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Move fiance OUT until he is your HUSBAND. Help dad find a great apartment or senior independent living or assisted living facility (whatever his needs are) and get him into his own cute little apartment with lots of activities available to him. There are many nice independent living apartments with social activities and some provide meals. I think he would find friends and maybe even a love interest himself -- he's actually a hot commodity! Get married, include your daughter in your wedding ceremony -- and set a good example for her going forward.
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MargaretMcKen Aug 2021
You personally may not approve of 'living in sin', but saying 'stop it' doesn't help OP much. However Daddy will just love it - just what he (not the doctor) ordered!
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You sound really sweet and caring. The people in your life are really lucky to have you. I'm just gonna come right out and say it. I have had almost this exact experience and I promise you, nothing will change dad's behavior and if he is competing with your new partner for attention (sounds like he really loves the spotlight) it will probably cost you this relationship. You have a duty of love to help dad, I get that. But you also have a responsibility to yourself, your child, your partner, and the budding family that you are to give that family the chance to grow and be happy. You sound like you may be co-dependent and it will be therefore more difficult to set FIRM BOUNDARIES with dad. I think step one would be sit down with everyone together and make it clear that you guys are at a different point in your life, and that he needs to respect that. Step two would be to kick him out, and that will be hard emotionally, but it will take one or two days total to go tour a half dozen assisted living communities in your area and you will be armed with a lot of knowledge to share with him. If he doesn't want to live alone, that's perfectly understandable, but that doesn't mean he has to live with you guys. It was already a subtle act of manipulation to pretend to himself and to you that he was just gonna stay for a couple months. I hope you guys get the chance to be a new family and dad gets to the community he needs and will love.
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SeekingAdvic Aug 2021
thank you for your reply. I appreciate it. I don't believe I am co-dependent, I know I am actually very independent-my friends and family state that quite a bit. I DIY everything, and have a very assertive personality. Not saying that defensively, but I know I"m not co-dependent. But in this case, I am a total sucker - I have accommodated this dude for a long time and in doing so you can call me an enabler for allowing it to go on and on, the detriment of my own privacy and relationship. You are right, it was an act of manipulation - and I resent that so much. I thought there was a boundary, that I agreed to, and when there wasn't -it was all on me to be the bad guy and resolve the issue. I never expected to be in this situation. I never expected to feel so taken advantage of, and also so guilty because after all, aren't we supposed to "give back" which could be the old world thoughts or "giving back" as in raising my own, which I did. This post has been so helpful, thank you!
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Your Father is not your husband and if your going to start a new chapter it’s time to make a boundary either a in law apartment or assisted living . You do not have to give up your life and happiness for a person who makes rude comments and belittles you in your home . Time to cut the apron string
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Seeker, the only way in which you sound juvenile is keeping on letting Daddy call the shots. A grown woman chooses who lives in a house that she owns herself. You may love him, but his behavior is NOT lovable. He certainly doesn’t take a hint! Here are some strategies to consider:

1) Why did his previous arrangement ( living with a different family member) break down? If they ran out of tolerance (or if that was part of it), ask them how it went. Then ask if one of those people could come with you to talk to Dad. You need reinforcements, particularly if part of Daddy’s ‘old school mentality‘, is that daughters /women do what they’re told. This is the least ‘official’ way to deal with things.

2) Arrange respite care for Daddy for a month. ‘Respite’ is for the caregiver, not for the person cared for. Facing the fact that you need respite, might make it clear that you are finding this all hard to cope with. Respite in a good AL (or SL) might show him that he could enjoy the company. And AL probably has links to a social worker who could put in a good word.

3) You haven’t mentioned money – what share of household expenses Dad is paying, and what funds he has for other options. He certainly should be paying a share of all outgoings including food, plus additional costs if there is no substantial mortgage in the outgoings. If you do the cooking, cleaning and washing, there’s a charge for that too. Don’t make this his cheapest option financially, as well as the company he prefers.

4) Dad is treating your house like a hotel. Find out the cost of a modest hotel’s full room and board, and that’s what he should pay. If it’s towards $1000 a week that he is faced with paying this, it changes the benefits of just sitting tight in your house.

5) If he still won’t go, like Grandma says, set a deadline. Yes, you can offer to help him find somewhere else, but don’t do all the legwork yourself. It’s his life, he needs to start being responsible for himself NOW.

6) If the deadline passes and he has still done nothing, pack up his things, leave them at the front door, and put a lock on his bedroom door. Or change the locks on the outside doors. Offer to drop him off at a hotel.

For any of these things to work, you have to get over wanting him to feel loved and wanted. He is NOT wanted in your house on the present terms. He IS loved, but he needs to act out loving you and your needs too. If you don’t toughen up a bit (a lot?), nothing will change – except that your new relationship will break down and you won’t “be able to start a new chapter”.

Best wishes, Margaret
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SeekingAdvic Aug 2021
Thank you. I appreciate it. What is AL and SL?
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