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Watch CNN, they will tell you what is closing down.
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The mayor of Illinois is closing all bars and restaurants.
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My son lives in NYC. Mayor Diblasio wants to shut down the whole city. Shut everything down.
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DianaF Mar 2020
Not the subways and buses yet tho in NYC. And not grocery stores, pharmacies, etc.
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https://www.npr.org/2020/03/14/815778420/son-talks-about-89-year-old-dads-recovery-from-covid-19

You might find this article interesting regarding an 89 yr old survivor of covid-19 in Washington.
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Xenajada, I work for the post office. Nobody is spraying the mail. We have a sign at our time clock that says KEEP CALM and WASH YOUR HANDS!
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I live in Wisconsin, in a suburb of Madison. A coworker's mom is at an assisted living facility that is not allowing any visitors. The mom doesn't remember how to use the phone, so the coworker feels really cut off from her mom.
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I would think sending mail would be dangerous to because coronavirus could be on the mail. I wonder if they spray the mail w disinfectant.
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Arwen31 Mar 2020
I've had the same doubt about letters, or anything entering the house, really. I eventually thought to wash with hot water and soap everything washable and for letters, boxes and non-washable items they are out of the door or in a box for a 9 days quarantine. I hope this will be enough. More than this, I'll die from stress before than from the virus.
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MN facilities are on lockdown as of this week. Not sure if it is mandatory but it is the right move. If you think you want to risk bringing C19 into the NH to your mom or others, you can talk to the admin if you have "special reasons" but then they'd have to make exceptions for others. It is all new territory and the NHs are running on all cylinders. The staff will need to be thanked profusely when this eventually blows over. We are all in a similar boat, and some people have it much worse. I hope you can have peace in your heart that they are doing the best they can for their residents under very stressful conditions.
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schrederkim Mar 2020
My "special reasons" are that I'm the primary caregiver. I am not just a visitor to my mother. I help with showers, meals, cleaning, meds, and changing bandages. That was the question I posted. It isn't that I'm sad I've been cut off from my mother, but that I do more than the nurses I have coming in to help with her.
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Some NH and ALFs here in Florida are on lockdown too.
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Both my Mother's and my Aunt's ALFs are on lockdown.
I understand it's hard, however, it only takes one person to start a huge problem! It's not worth the risk!
Use this time as a respite.
Hang in there!
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Test kits are mostly irrelevant until several days after exposure or just before someone displays symptoms; studies shown many people are disease carriers before they have a fever and the antibody level in their sputum/spit is high enough for a positive test. Some people with fevers will not test positive for another 1-2 days. At least several days of the 14 day incubation/isolation period is necessary _before_ accurate tests results. That's why it's so important to restrict access to LTC facilities and keep out the people who have been exposed and are incubating the virus but are not yet symptomatic.

One documented community spread was caused when a father who "might" have been exposed through travel was instructed to self quarantine at home for 14 days decided since he wasn't feeling sick to attend his daughter's recital with his family at around day 10. His family left the recital after being informed he had tested positive during the event. Later tests showed his wife and one child were also positive (infected while he quarantined at home), and the three of them infected several people who were in attendance at the recital.

The reason medical personal are being allowed greater access than the body public is the assumption trained medical personal are more likely to follow directions than people like the father wanting to attend a recital.
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needtowashhair Mar 2020
The test that's being used is not an antibody test. That does take time to test for since you have to wait for the person to make antibodies. The test for Corona uses PCR to detect the presence of the viral DNA. It's possible that a single fragment of the virus can be multiplied until it's DNA can be detected. Just like being able to test a doorknob or a rail, no antibodies there, if you breath in a cloud of infected micro droplets that should be immediately detectable with a sinus swab. Since even though you aren't replicating virus and thus not producing antibodies for it yet, your sinuses are already full of Corona DNA you breathed in from someone else.
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I'm so sorry to hear this and feel for you. It must be really hard.

I think what others suggested, phone and letters, are very good ideas. Perhaps they could also let her see you via skype or something? I understand they are doing it for the right reasons but perhaps they should have warned relatives before, so I wouldn't be shy, try to ask them.

Sending you and your mom lots of encouragement through this difficult time.
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Kim, you may be less likely to carry the virus, but at this point, with the failure to provide adequate numbers of tests, we really aren't able to progress as an allegedly first world post-industrial nation should.   And it could be that you've unknowingly been exposed to the virus, while the nurses have taken precautions.

That's not to suggest that you're not caring for yourself; it's a reflection of what resources the medical profession had, before shortages.

Can you call your mother?   Sometimes I've called the nursing station and asked for someone to help my father with the phone, especially when he was  too weak to do it himself.   

I hope that the sacrifices those with parents in care facilities make lead to safer resolutions for them in the short and long term.
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katiekat2009 Mar 2020
Why in the world would we have needed a stockpile of tests for something that didn't exist four months ago?!
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It is for her safety. My father's AL will only allow one visitor at a time in and you must fill out a form and basically shower with Purell. If that is what it takes, then let them do their job.
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Mom has macular degeneration. Hospitals are allowing one visitor, but in Maryland senior homes are completely shut down. The nurse assistant who is with my mom today has been to two other facilities--isn't she more likely to carry a virus than me, who has barely been around anyone?
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DianaF Mar 2020
They can take her temperature every time she arrives, have her wear gloves at work, wash hands, etc. - and probably are.
With family, they don't have that kind of control - though it's not you but others they have to worry about I'm sure.
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I am so sorry, many places have to do this for the health and safety of all.   Ask the facility, can you send them pictures of you and letters?  Can she read?
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