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Upon my visit to the rehab facility today to visit my grandmother, I met with another social worker she explained that the police are trying to open a case with the APS. she gave me a number of an agent so I need to get in contact with him today. I couldn't reach him there's always Monday morning to reach him. I was puzzled. My situation is bad enough trying to get everything else together. after talking with social worker she needed to know why there was extreme hoarding as I said I know my grandmother orders a million things off QVC some stuff she doesn't need and sometimes going to walmart buying a million clothes, underwear. One of the paramedics recommended to me cut off her qvc account. when I'm at the house I clean, but upon an upcoming visit, more stuff comes in. sometimes when im there the ups truck leaves something on the porch. Today after leaving the rehab I returned to her house to start cleaning I bought some boxes at staples and went to work. I almost lost my mind how much stuff she bought, most stuff I put in boxes and stored it in the garage for now. I just don't want to be in trouble. I do all I can when I'm at the house but now since shes in rehab I can get the ball rolling on straightening things up but upon coming her coming home she def needs an in care nurse but the old school mentality kicks in that I can be independent which is not good. What can I do when I speak to the guy monday?

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Hoarding comes in to play with APS when it creates a dangerous environment in the home - either in walking through the home or in health issues because it encourages vermin. Hoarding endangers first responders if they are called to the home - particularly firemen. The hoarded items provide extra fuel for a fire and present a tripping/falling hazard for firemen who cannot see the items in smoke field rooms. I'm assuming the paramedics and police had difficulty entering the home and helping your grandmother.

I'm not sure how you could get in trouble. Are you your grandmother's POA? You talk about visiting your grandmother so I'm also assuming you are not living with her.

APS may be looking at declaring your grandmother incompetent and preventing her from returning to her home because they view it as a dangerous situation.
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Coneal7876 Jul 2018
they had difficulty when they got to the tv room. im not living with her besides living there as a kid. she has lived on her own since the 1980's when my mom moved out and me, that's how it was up to me moving out and her passing after that. I ordered POA forms online waiting for them to get to me thru legal zoom. I know she will be unable to go with me to a lawyer in her condition. but she still insists on writing checks and she cant.
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you aren't going to be in trouble. APS is being called in to HELP. It sounds as though your loved one needs a care facility and APS can help with that.
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Coneal7876 Jul 2018
I see I know she will refuse. she was difficult with the social worker yesterday but a lot of convincing will work as much as she wants to come home right now aint the time.
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The APS people are not monsters. If Grandma is already acting out with the staff where she is, that will put them on notice that she is “difficult”.

You need to look at the legal part part of this too. Grandma needs to give a trusted someone POA or someone needs to apply for emergency guardianship if she’s not competent. Grandma has issues and cannot return home without lots of help and supervision. She’d most likely be better off in Assisted Living. I’m not sure you could close her QVC account by yourself. If she buys it, they’re going to sell it to her.

While you’re there, refuse any deliveries. Open the boxes and find the receipts. Amazon has a great return policy and QVC probably does as well. Instructions on how to return are probably on their website or you could call their customer service. If you have to, rent or borrow a truck and load up whatever you can to take to the Post Office or UPS. If she goes to long-term Care, she’ll need the money. Grandma will be livid when she returns, but you need to keep her safe. That’s how you stay on APS good side.
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Coneal7876 Jul 2018
She hasn't ordered anything from qvc in quite a while she was late on a bill a couple of months ago it did get paid but besides watching the channel she has not ordered anything new. I have not seen a new package lately I was trying to understand what the APS does dealing with all of this is new to me like I said its the old school mentality that I don't need a nurse I don't need meals on wheels I don't this and that I just need my grandson to do the food shopping,taking me to doctors appointments and picking up prescriptions I can be there on a limited basis that's pretty much when Im off from work.my mission with this situation is to keep her safe and being in the house doesn't solve that answer I can try to reason with her but she won't listen even the social workers too trying to reason with her is the same.
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Coneal, let the people from APS tell you what needs to be done. This is their business. They deal with this every day. They are very used to elderly, stubborn, obstinate people who think the more they dig their heels in, yell and refuse to do as they are told, the likelier they are to get their way. But the truth is, now Grandma is on their radar. If she has been living in filth and unsafe conditions for years, it’s not humanly possible for you, one person, to clean it all up within a few days or weeks. APS will follow up on what’s happening with Grandma. No matter how she kicks and screams, they will supervise her and how she’s doing. If she’s not doing well, they will remove her from the house.

What you need need to do is the legal stuff. Does anyone have Power of Attorney for her? Does she have a will? Do you know where her important papers are? Can you find them? Is there anyone at all in your family who can help you get this stuff together? It’s a lot for one person.

Keep us updated on what’s going on. We care.
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Coneal7876 Jul 2018
she has a will and it was rewritten to me 5 years ago. it was suppose to be for my mom but she passed in 2012. I believe everything else is taken care of. I put in the safe in the bank I didn't feel comfortable with it sitting in a drawer in her house. POA I did thru legal zoom I dunno if she will be of sound and mind to sign it the other option is to get a emergency guardianship.
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