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I just got off the phone with the administrator at the facility where my BIL is located. As most of you know, the facility is located 4 hours away from his home. Isolating him from all his family and friends.


I just found out today that this company owns another facility that is 40 minutes away. Therefore, I asked the administrator could she please fax over all his information there in hopes that he could be transferred.


Her response was, "Why would I want her to do that"? That my BIL is having behavior problems and that they are not going to accept him. She went on to say that when my BIL was transferred to where he is at now, that no one made her aware of any behaviors and had she known, she would not have accepted him either.


All I know is there is a lot that is going on that is not right and we need to get to the bottom of this.


WHAT WOULD YOU DO? I know I have asked this time after time but I know there is somebody out there that can help me. Thank you all.

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worriedinCalli

NO I DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE AUTHORITY. I could go on and on …. I could care less about anybody being on my side. It's not about me it is about my BIL.
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I do not have to have any authority. My husband is the next of kin. He (and his wife) do have the authority to speak on BIL behalf when it comes to his best interest. Besides, it has nothing to do with why we can not get BIL closer to home. Thank you for your response.
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worriedinCali Aug 2019
Yes YOU do have to have authority. In order for YOU to make the transfer happen, you have to have authority. Your husband being next of kin doesn’t give you any rights and if your BIL has a guardian which was mentioned on another post, your husband doesn’t have the rights you think he has. Have you/your husband tried pursuing guardianship? It’s too late for POA. If you can obtain guardianship, I do believe that you will have more luck getting him moved closer to you. The administrators and ombudsman are not likely to be on your side if you don’t actually have the authority to have BIL moved.
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It is your right to remove your loved one from one facility and place him in another, correct? All of the residents of memory care have some sort of "behavioral issues" because their brains are broken. That's why they're in memory care to begin with. What sort of behavioral issues is BIL having......the details are missing. Make a stink. Tell the administrator you will be calling every day to hear updates about what progress has been made to transfer BIL. In other words, Make a pest of yourself. Call the closer MC to see what leg work YOU have to do to get this transfer to happen. Look into other facilities which are not corporate owned. I had to get my parents out of Brookdale which is corporate owned because the place was going downhill weekly while the costs were skyrocketing monthly. I NEVER ONCE received a correct bill from them and spent hours on the phone month after month trying to sort out their incompetence. The ED never gave me a straight answer either, which infuriated me. So I finally looked around and found a privately owned ALF and Memory Care which is heads above Brookdale. I've never once received an incorrect bill in over 4 years. The ED is responsive and involved. Night and day difference.
When mother was in a dreadful rehab, I made a big fuss and got her out of there after finding a much better place. My point is, don't be Mrs Nice Guy. Fight for what you want and know your rights. I am unfamiliar with your story so forgive me if I'm missing some important piece of info I'm unaware of.
Wishing you the very best of luck
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Isthisrealyreal Aug 2019
Lealonnie, the OP has no authority for her BIL and is bumping against the POA stuff. Can you tell us anything to help with that?

Such a crummy situation for all of them.

Hailey, I would have them send all the paperwork to you. That way you can copy it, read it and know it has been delivered.

I had to get ugly and stand over the knot head that was supposed to send my dads paperwork for transfer. It got to be completely ridiculous the lies that were told about the paperwork, it was sent 10xs according to the facility, however when I stood over her shoulder the receiving facility miraculously received it. This is probably part of your struggle.
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It is sounding like this administrator wants to keep a patient with NO FAMILY coming often to make problems and with a certain cash flow. So, yeah, why would she want to give him up. I couldn't agree more with SweetStuff. Go to the administrator of the facility that is closer. Maybe you can cause a food fight with them.
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haileybug Aug 2019
AlvaDeer

Thanks for responding.
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Hi Hailey. Have you tried to speak to the administrator at the facility’s closer to you? Maybe bring your bil’s records for their review? Do you or your husband have POA for his health care? Is so you have that right. If it was me, I’d push to see proof of these behavioral issues. This is sad. You just want him closer so you can visit. Good luck.
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haileybug Aug 2019
Sweetstuff

Thank you for responding. This has been going on for at least 4 years. My BIL has been transferred from one place to another but he can never get placed closer to home due to the facilities stating he has behavior problems.
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Hailey,

You sound like a wonderful advocate. Your tenacity is going to pay off. Just wait and see. It will work out. Hugs! You have been through an awful lot. I’m so sorry that you and your family have had to endure this heartache.
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haileybug Aug 2019
NeedHelpWithMom

Thank you so much for your kind words. I can tell by your responses that you have a heart of gold.
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Haileybug,
This has been going on since Dec. 2016?
Maybe you are making progress now, but it is slow.

I don't know if this will work, but call, or appear at the facility you want your BIL to be at, and arrange his transfer there. Tell them, how could Corporate object, he is already in a similarly owned facility.

Maybe, write to Corporate. Do not accuse them of anything, instead just push for family is closer.

One would think that if your BIL is such a behavior problem, why would the current administrator want to keep him so bad by being uncooperative?

I know that I cannot help you, but I wish for you the best.
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haileybug Aug 2019
Sendhelp

Thank you so much for responding. Yes, dear; this has been going on a very long time.

I called corporate and just explained how I would just love to have him closer. Corporate stated I would have to speak with the current administrator. She obviously thought I was crazy.

The administrator asked me " You mean you want me to send them your BIL paperwork after I've already told you he has behavior problems"? I just can not give up.
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HaileyBug;

I think that you are going to have to ask for a care meeting (which you can attend by phone with your husband).

You need to ask for specifics about BIL's behavioral issues.

You need to ask what treatments have been tried and if those treatments have worked at all.

You need to make sure that the mental health professional who is treating your BIL is at least on the phone at this meeting to make recommendations for treatment and what KIND of placement he needs.

You need to point out that if he is moved closer to you and your DH, you will be able to visit more often and be more involved with BIL's care (IF that is what you are going to do).

You need to ask if getting him placed in a secure psychiatric hospital for a trial of different meds is a possibility and if perhaps that kind of psych placement is what he actually needs.
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NeedHelpWithMom Aug 2019
Hailey,

What Barb is saying is totally reasonable. I can’t imagine why they would object to any of those requests or concerns. This has to be so frustrating for you. I admire your determination to work through this. Keep talking, eventually someone will listen. Let’s hope it’s sooner rather than later. Good luck!
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I don't think you can expect any facility administrator to give up a paying client and facilitate their move, especially when a lot of them get paid based on sales and occupancy. If you want this to happen you need to do the leg work.
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NeedHelpWithMom Aug 2019
Yep, she has to fight for it. She sounds like a strong advocate to me though. She’ll do it. One way or another. I’d be willing to bet on it.
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I am not sure that I understand this "Why would I want her to do that"? Her who? I am confused. I am familiar with your issues, I agree something is not right.
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NeedHelpWithMom Aug 2019
Yeah, what’s up? It’s not an unreasonable request to want a family member closer in proximity. As CountryMouse said, the isolation could be part of the problem.
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