I feel so guilty about the things that I think about my mom's dementia. Can anyone relate?

Please realize that your feelings are normal.

My father died in 1974 with Mesothelioma. It is one of the most horrible deaths. Daddy just died by inches. He went from 150 pounds to maybe 75. The cancer invaded his bones and brain and it was so sad. We didn't have Hospice then as it was just coming into the U.S. I did manage with help to keep him at home. Two years ago one of my good friends and co-workers died with this same terrible cancer he was only 57 (my kids age). I was over there two to three times a week helping him and his wife. It was like loosing Daddy all over again. I am 84 and have seen a lot of my friends and relatives die. One was a niece, she was only barely 53.

Personally, I used to pray for Daddy to go. Hospice tells us that it is OK to tell our loved ones that it is OK to let go, that everything is taken care of. My co-worker was worried about his wife, Hospice told her to tell him she was going to be ok and he could let go. I assured him that what he was concerned about was taken care of. It was too, by the way.

Has your mother left any instructions what how she wants her end of life to be handled? Like, feeding tube, a DNR, etc.

Please don't feel guilty, You have nothing to feel guilty about. None of us want our loved ones to suffer. You believe this life isn't all there is, that should comfort you. Just before my mother died, loved ones who had passed on came to talk to her. I didn't believe then, but I do now.

Feeling guilty because of thoughts is like a demon to your soul, to your very being. I lived with that feeling for a while-guilt, confusion, helplessness, a boatload of anxiety, etc.  Thoughts are just that. Thoughts. We all have them, but that does not define who we are unless we dwell on them or act on them. I wish you well. Take it easy on yourself.

Just love her. Try to play games, even if she can't do more than push checkers or dominos around.
Read to her. Bring old family movies on DVD, pictures of her as a child. Follow her eyes, you might be surprised.
Pray for God's will for her!


Hope that helps.
Guilt is a very normal emotion. When my Mom died, my sister's overwhelming emotion was relief.
I am a retired Professional Counselor. I totally understood.

Crafty, your post made me cry, it is so much like my grandma.

Please do not beat yourself up for wanting her freed from this living.
h€[[. It only makes you an obviously loving daughter to want her released.

For whatever reason, she is going through this and her family is being drug right along.

Unless you have dealt with someone that has the lights on but there is nobody home, it is hard to understand the desperation you feel for the situation. There is no engaging them in any way, shape or form. There is no communication possible whatsoever, nobody's home. (I am saying this for all the posters that have suggested engagement as a way to cope, sorry guys, no offense intended. It is just not possible, she is a shell.)

Crafty, do only what you can, delegate when possible and be thankful that she is not suffering.

You have been dealing with a heart breaking situation for a long time, to want it to be over is okay and understandable. Be kind and forgiving to yourself.

Hugs for all you do, you are a daughter that any mom would be proud of.

I, too, pray for God to call my mother “home.” I completely understand your point of view. I have a gut feeling that our thoughts and prayers related to our parents’ suffering is a normal response. I wish you a peaceful heart.

I knew by the time I sat down to write an answer that you would already have lots of responses affirming the normalcy of your thoughts.

I'm 9 years into assisting my dad in his facility and managing his affairs as an only child. It has consumed so much time and energy that the happy life I had a decade ago is only a distant memory, but I continue to long for the opportunities and choices I once had. Of course, my yearning also comes with feelings of frustration, and even resentment at times.

I've been very much helped by attending an Alzheimer support group and would highly recommend it. I've had a chance to observe and contemplate the thoughts and emotions of many people in our situation and have drawn a few conclusions.

1. Most of us enter this responsibility without previous experience but forge ahead by saying "I'm a good person so, of course, I can do this." Later, you'll have thoughts that have you asking others "Am I a bad person for thinking this?" Hello dementia caregiver! And yes, you're still a good person.

2. We also believe in our resilience and perseverance at the beginning because we are untested. We say "I can do anything for a while." We never imagine "a while" will turn into grueling years of increasing difficulty. It leaves us longing for any period of relief and imagining what living life without swimming in stress hormones might feel like. Hello dementia caregiver! You can expect an odd mix of grief and relief at the end.

3. Lastly, because we are naïve, we also say in the beginning "How hard could it be?" Then we find out it's beyond what we could have ever foreseen but we question ourselves because we struggle with the unimaginable. Hello dementia caregiver! I have yet to meet anyone who can make it to the finish line without engaging with others in some way to fortify themselves mentally, emotionally, and physically with the care challenges.

Perhaps you can see yourself in this evolutionary summary and I hope it reassures you that you're as normal as the rest of us struggling to cope with these difficulties.

As a final suggestion, I'd recommend that you relinquish the tendency to put things in rank order and see your desire to want the end to your mom's suffering and the easing of your own caregiver struggle as equally important outcomes for different but valid reasons.

I'm glad you brought this up because it rings true for so many of us. It's a hard road we travel but we try to ease the way for each other with out support.

I can relate. While my mom still lives in her own home and is capable of feeding/cleaning, etc. herself, I am the soul caregiver and the majority of her transportation. I get so weary of answering the same questions, explaining why she can't drive and going over everything a million times. I feel guilty when I have thoughts of putting her in assisted living, even though I know it's inevitable. I know it's going to be a challenge for her to leave her home of 50 yrs, I almost hope she passes before I have to make that choice. It sucks, that's all there is to it. I have found a lot of support on this site, so feel free to express your thoughts. There always seems to be someone in the same boat.

No. I think it’s perfectly normal to feel that way. You have a lot to deal with and it definitely takes a toll on the caregivers. You need a break! People who aren’t in our shoes have no idea what it does to our mental state. I take care of my mom and have for years since my dad died. Her dementia is getting worse (not as advanced as your mom) and she had advanced stage cancer now. She can’t assist in anything anymore. It’s 24/7 around the clock care. I feel like a prisoner on lockdown. I can’t leave and do anything for me. I lost my husband last year suddenly and unexpectedly and we have a son together. Our world turned upside down in an instant. I don’t work so I can take care of my mom. We moved into her house to take care of her. I’m still trying to pick up the pieces from my husband’s death for my son and me but now mom needs full time care...I’m so stressed and mentally exhausted. Mom’s communication sucks. It’s hard to help if she doesn’t tell me how’s she’s feeling.
My mom’s dementia isn’t as advanced as your mom’s...But I could see that happening. I’m not quite feeling like you are yet, but I don’t think you’re wrong to think that way. I’m sure you’re not alone. And like you said, you’re mom wouldn’t want to live like that. That’s not living. You’re being honest and you have to take care of yourself. That’s what everyone tells me too. Easier said than done though. Good luck to you!

I don't thinks this makes you bad/selfish. I think you are suffering from unrealistic ideas about love and sacrifice. We often get told that love means that we totally accept everything about our loved ones. This is a romantic idea and not at all true. New parents usually love their babies. But they nearly all complain about loss of sleep. Realistically you are suffering from your mother's condition and missing things that you could do if you didn't have to spend time managing her affairs. You have chosen to help your mother. That doesn't mean you have to enjoy providing this help. I think all the caretakers on this website are heroes for their dedication--even if they hate it and wish for their loved ones to pass away and ease their burden. I count myself incredibly lucky that my husband passed away after 4 1/2 months in hospice care before he was totally demented/disabled. I only had to clean shit once and was spared repetitive clean ups. He had bed sores and I was fearful of contaminating the sore. Before he got ill, he used to make fun of me for squeamishness about handling bowel movements. Lucky, too, that I was retired and didn't fear missing out too much. Good for you for "caring" for your mother. You are not required to wish for her continued existence which is now a burden to both of you. And if you #1 wish a merciful death to spare yourself, that's ok in my opinion because you are the one who feels this burden most.

you are so brave to share your feelings. When family members get all excited because our mom ate a good meal or said a couple of words, I feel the opposite. I don't thinks she ever wanted to live like this and I am ready for her to be with her Lord rather than hanging on and giving some family members joy that she is still going (if you could call it that)at almost 95. The only good thing about this disease is that I think I will be grateful when mom dies rather than devastated

My Mom died over three years ago and I still feel guilty about things. The last time I saw her conscious my brother and I were visiting her after the annual nursing home care meeting. She seemed overly excited that day. She was actually dressed for a change and had rollers in her hair. She very self consciously took them out while we were visiting with her. My brother had to get back to work and normally I would have stayed but for some reason I was tired that day and wanted to go so I left with him. My Mom looked really disappointed. How was I to know that would be my last face to face conversation with her. I still feel sick to my stomach when I think about that day.

But it's a waste of time feeling guilty. It doesn't add anything positive to your life and I think the fact that you are feeling guilty shows you care. If you were some kind of sociopath you wouldn't feel anything. But you do care and that's why you feel guilty

I know I'm a fine one to talk when I still feel guilty about things years after my Mom's death but the logical part of my brain knows it's stupid and so I'm very qualified to tell you. "Stop feeling guilty!" You love your Mom. I'm sure if she could communicate with you, she would tell you the same thing.

Just pray for her while she is alive. Once she passes, that is it and you may remember right when she passed and some the the pain she was having but you will still want to hear her and talk to her and may fell guilty for not doing more for years to come. But with time you'll remember the good times when she was healthier and when you were a child and when you laughed together. You're just going through the motions right now of what most people go through when they die. Everyone goes through it. The guilt and everything. Why that is, I don't know. I guess people feel like they didn't do enough or they could of done it differently.

As you can see you are normal to feel the way you do. When a LO has fallen ill it's the family that usually has a hard time with it, but when it comes to be a caregiver well then, it becomes a burden. We don't like to think of our LO that way. I took a class on "death and dying", and I learned that when a LO is dying, and as time moves on, it is normal for wishing that the LO would move on. It is just human nature. We want that LO to be free of pain, and we want ourselves to be free.
I must disagree with the few ( with respect) that how guilty you feel is how much you care. I don't believe that! Guilt implies intent, you didn't intended to hurt your mom. You don't intend to cause her pain. No, of course not! You love her and want what is best for her. Guilt means there is something bad you are doing or going to do. You have empathy for her and now you will have empathy for others.
Try not to beat yourself up. As someone post on this site somewhere, our LO "become a shell of who they once were". Your mom isn't really there anymore. And just maybe somewhere in her mind or soul she wishes to be free as well. Just make sure you tell her everything you need to.
I didn't when my dad died and I would do anything just to tell him that I loved him & he was a great dad.

May God bless and carry you through your final moments with your mom, and bring rest to your heart and hers in Jesus' name. Amen

My mother is 92 with late stage dementia. She is not able to do anything herself. She is in bed 24/7. She sleeps, eats, and goes to the bathroom. She had a massive stroke in 2014. 3 months after the stroke I had her in her doctor's office for a routine visit. Her heart rate was 32. Her doctor told me to take her to the ER. They admitted her and scheduled a pacemaker to be installed the next day. The next day she was very agitated. The room nurse said she should not be getting a pacemaker because she has no quality of life. I thought that was a harsh thing to say at the time, but it turned out to be true. I got my mother calmed down and 40 minutes later she was headed to the operating room. According to how her cardiologist talks they won't be replacing the battery when the time comes. I am convinced that the pacemaker is the only thing keeping her alive. I always find it curious that some people have seemingly healthy, active lives and die relatively young and other people live a very long time with terrible health.

You are not alone many of us would feel the same way. The guilt can eat you away just for wanting your own life back & easier said than done is to not feel the guilt for your thoughts. I came to this site in the Nick of time....I was in burn out then and just reading what others have written you realize your thoughts are normal, it doesn't mean you don't care, you are doing the best you can. Our lives get put on hold until you change how you look at how you are handling the situation. 1. Is she being looked after....yes, 2. Are you doing the best you can....yes. dementia takes away their soul. Yes you are correct you are talking to the shell of them but on those rare times she can concentrate on you when talking, cherish those moments. You want your life back, understandable but when the time comes that she passes away your life will still not be the same. We as caregivers all go through these feelings of resentment, guilt. Please come back to forum it really does help. Can not stress this enough!!!

My dad was exactly the way your mom towards the end.  I would pray every night for God to take him.  He didn't want to live in that in a nursing home and we hated seeing him in his wheelchair, incontinent, not speaking, eating pureed food... staring into space.  He was such a proud man when he was healthy.  So strong and to see him that way killed me and my family.

My dad passed away in September.  I miss him so much but I take comfort in knowing he is whole again and not sitting in a wheelchair suffering silently...    I felt that way too... my life was driving back and forth to the NH every day.  But now that he is gone, I'm glad I did what I did for him in his last months on earth.  And I don't feel guilty wishing that he'd go to heaven because I didn't want him to suffer anymore.  It is a horrible disease and the end is the worst but I'm glad I stayed with my dad until the very end.   I miss him terribly now.

Please don't feel guilty.  You're not alone feeling this way.

Oh my goodness no. Don't feel guilty. My dad just turned 80 and is in a memory care facility. He is still ambulatory and recognizes me but can't do much of anything on his own and is completely lost about time/seasons/location, etc. I am watching him go downhill rapidly. I'm hoping he goes before he loses all dignity or ends up bedbound in a nursing home. And yes, it is a big burden on me both time and (mostly) mentally. I know it's likely to go on for years and that scares me. I am an only child and am the responsible party for all of his care.

This is a normal and common response. Nobody who has seen this close at hand, would want it for their loved ones OR themselves.

My mom was the same way before she died 3 weeks ago - once I sat there thinking we were kinder to our old cat by calling a halt than we were being to mom - we all feel the same way - I even did some pre-grieving as the rarer & rarer glimpses of the real person became less & less

Stop beating yourself up as it is a useless waste of time & energy - do something positive when you start feeling that way even if it only sorting out files - I know because I have been there & it can grind you to a halt if you let it - I felt as long as I am doing my best for then I tried to deflect myself from the 'what if', the 'maybe' and the 'am I doing enough' type of thought - it is easier said than done & I am 69 years old doing this

No, you are NOT a bad person. Just overwhelmed like many of us. Don't think badly of yourself! You are doing the best you can, I'm sure

i had the exact same feelings, for her mostly and not myself, and i was taking care of her at home. so i had to watch her be that way all the hours that you are not even there. my only suggestion to you is to somehow switch your #1 and #2, because it ceased being about you when you decided to take on the responsibility, which ultimately was the right thing to do. legally we are not at a place as a society where we can admit defeat when it is obvious. yes, i am a kevorkian, but the silly religious or false morality of society is not ready for prime time reality. i had to suffer those stupid hospice people come in and out of my house and monitor whether she was close or not while my mom lay there starving to death, and because of them could not legally end it in a quiet manner. you'd think we are living in the medieval ages where we have to hover helplessly until the very last breath, which comes after much indignity. we give dogs more dignity than we give ourselves. stupid humans.

Many of us here have the same thoughts about our loved ones. You are most definitely not a bad person although I can relate to the guilt. My 96 year old mother has moderate to severe dementia and isn't even as advanced as your mother in terms of physical debilitation, but I do know that her quality of life is pretty non existent at this point. Releasing her to the Lord is a loving wish, but it will be His will as to when this will occur. Sending you hugs and prayers for peace while you walk this journey.

I read your question and thought OMG - that sounds like me. My mother was diagnosed with dementia and was in a slow spiral for about 9 years. Last year, she fell and we had to place her in memory care. The slow spiral started going faster. My father says it's like she died but she didn't. It broke my heart to put her in a nursing home and I feel so guilty. She made me promise that I wouldn't put her in a "home".
It is so hard to see a strong, creative, vibrant lady become what she is today. I do wish she would pass because I know my mom wouldn't want to live this way. I live 1100 miles away so I don't get to see her every day. But when I visit (4 or 5 times a year), I see a little bit less of her. It is heart-wrenching.
Luckily, I have my dad and brothers who are nearby and keep an eye on Mom. My boyfriend says cherish the memories and try to look on the bright side. I try but some days it's hard.
Thank you for sharing and letting me know that I am not alone in this.
Hugs!!

Its very difficult we are all or alot of us going threw this,I feel your pain very much an my mom is only 67.

No not at all selfish or bad thoughts, Mom told me many times she did not want to be kept alive on machines. Of course she grew so very ill the hospital gave me the ultimatum , breathing tube, brother in Ca could not be bothered as she just made it to his wedding, 2 aides and myself taking care of her. He begged me to keep her alive so he could come in and see her. Worst mistake ever. He tried to tell the Dr I wanted to kill her because I told them of her wishes. I actually told Mom what he was doing and she blinked at me as if it was ok to let go. It was so very hard but told her to go to Jesus, I would miss her like crazy but it was ok. I know she is in heaven running and bouncing about family and friends who have gone before and after her. Just pray hon, but do not feel guilty ❤️

I feel your pain and guilt. You are not alone.
My mom is 95 and lives with me and suffers from dementia. It is exhausting caring for her even with a part-time caregiver that comes for 15-18 hours a week. My mom always said she wanted to "die with her boots on." When a friend or family member would stroke out and become incapacitated, she would tell me that she is so glad she's of sound mind. Well, now she is that incapacitated person. When she has a fleeting moment of lucidity, she tells me to shut her an a room and come back when she's dead.
I have determined that I am single and childless for a reason. I am not a natural caregiver. And 90% of the time, she doesn't know who I am. So, I have at times wished for both of us that she would pass. And then comes the guilt and self-loathing. It's hard to be positive under these circumstances.
I have no advice. I can only empathize and sympathize.

Dear Crafty, You have absolutely nothing to feel guilty about. NOTHING! My mom is in a nursing home due to dementia. I did it for as long as I could also than the time just comes when you cannot. Unfortunately your mom is young. My mom is 88 and not that far into the disease, but yes does require 24 hr care. When my mom had lucid periods she too would always want to die and say she does not want to live like this. After many years of hard work and working two jobs, I feel I finally have everything in order with her. It is all over whelming and time consuming but eventually IT WILL work out. You need to try your best to take care of yourself and try to not have it on your mind 24 hrs a day, but it is easier said than done. My faith has helped me through a lot of it, along with this forum and 1 close friend. People really do not understand this if they haven’t been through it is what I’ve learned. Keep the faith and continue to check in. My best.

My Mom is 95 with dementia, hearing loss, and verbal and cognition problems. I know how you feel and I've felt the same way more often than I like to admit. But it seems that almost every time I think that way, someone comes up to me (without any prompting) and says how much they enjoy my mother. She still laughs A LOT. Granted, it may sometimes be with someone who's not actually there or with her stuffed cat. But she also laughs with all her caregivers and gives them hugs and kisses all the time. They say she makes them happy so I guess that's what the Lord wants her to do right now. He'll take her when it's her time.

I'm curious about how you determine that you care more about your own suffering than you do about your mother's.

How are you measuring that? I care about mother this much, but I care about my own troubles THIS much...

Every day you are stressed and you are distracted by boring but important chores that mess up the rest of the morning and more generally are making it impossible to lead your "real" life. It's a constant battering. Of *course* it's foremost in your mind.

Meanwhile, the reason this is happening is that your poor mother has been destroyed by a cruel disease which still won't be merciful and take her. But that is a steadier progression with no other possible remedy than time and patience. It's a quieter thing, it's less in your face, there is no active part to play.

I just don't see how you can separate out your different types of suffering, or make any useful comparison. May you both be released and may you be comforted.

I agree, it's very sad for her & for you, & it's natural that we want it to end. Our good Lord didn't intend for death to 'drag-on' like it does today. (With so many meds, our bodies outlive our minds & souls). It's awful. We feel your pain Crafty789, many times my mother has wished to die, but still takes all kinds of pills to prevent a natural death. (How strange) & what a terrible future for many of us. God bless you with strength to endure, 💞😢✌🙋🌸🌷