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My mom uses so much toilet paper she stops up commode after having b.m. she goes through 2 rolls before I finish 1. Before it was boxes of Kleenex like she is obsesses. I bought her handkerchiefs because I got tired of picking up Kleenex. There was handful of toilet paper in waste can this am--probably using it to wipe nose also. She gets mad at me when I tell her not to waste so much, even tells me to shutup. with her alzheimers

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At least not yet, freqflyer! If Rainman has a new roll to start with I find him up to his knees in a white tp cloud! Not wanting to waste all that tp I'll attempt to wind it back up - pretty impossible task - almost as frustrating as trying to fold a fitted bed sheet!
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I have a cat, who back in his youth, use to unspool the toilet paper, if he wasn't doing that then he was putting mega teeth marks into the spool. Thank goodness our elders aren't biting the toilet paper rolls :)
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Sendme - I get the super jumbo rolls of tp. When Rainman is sitting on the throne, if I'm not watching him every minute - his favorite thing to do is unspool the tp - weeeeeee!
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Should I start to worry? Is using a lot of toilet tissue a sign of dementia?
Or a sign of being fastidious? Or something else?
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Ha ha ha ha! Keep it coming, in the meantime, I hafta get dressed and go out for more TP today.
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"If you sprinkle when you tinkle, please be neat and wipe the seat."
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Who was it who thought up this poem?
"If it's brown, flush it down,
If it's yellow, let it mellow!"
I know, it was during a drought when Jerry Brown was first Governor of Ca.
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FF, this is a funny thread. Hoping no one ever tries to limit TP in my house.
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My parents were also the children of the Great Depression. I notice as they were getting older, they wouldn't flush the toilet after peeing.... guess they waited until the end of the day. No wonder their house had that aroma that would makes your eyes sting !!

Today I noticed that Dad is still doing that in his Independent Living apartment where he recently moved. On days when his caregivers are there, they keep that in check. I tried to tell Dad that his utility bill will be the same whether he flushed once a day or every half hour.
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It is helppful to know that I am not alone. I saw my situation in many posts. I
am caregiver for my wife and we are just starting the journey, but I was pleased
to know she was not the only one using tp in same manner. JH
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Sorry about the typo's
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Llove it about the 12 squares!
When I was growing up with mom she, had 1 sheet for pee and two squares for the other, we were monitored. She also used Scott tissue the hard single ply, which in my adult life, I never used.

But I am not her caregiver at this moment, she does not need it yet,
but if she did, I am sure this would be an issue.

Wshe uses paper towels to dry a counter, she saves them, by drying them out and folding them and putting them in the lower under sink cabinet. If she spills something on the floor. she uses those instead of getting a new one.

Instead, I am a caregiver to a hoarder of every napkin and tissue
and would have an endless supply of tissue, but it is napkins,
so I cannot use them ot it as a money saving device, so I have to throw them out.
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Ha ha. just poppin in on this but my momma had an opposite problem when I could still get her to pee on the pot...she liked to conserve, and would only use a sheet, or two if lucky and I had to always be there to instruct her to grab more please!
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My Mom too loves her TP. She always puts it in the waste can next to the toilet which is fine. I just empty at the end of the day. Now with tissues I just give her 3 at breakfast and keep replacing as needed especially at meal times. I'm surprised her nose isn't sore from all the use of tissue!!
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My Mom too loves her TP. She always puts it in the waste can next to the toilet which is fine. I just empty at the end of the day. Now with tissues I just give her 3 at breakfast and keep replacing as needed especially at meal times. I'm surprised her nose isn't sore from all the use of tissue!!
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There is a solution, but it takes quite a bit of upkeep. On the other hand, we were paying a plumber almost every week because of all the clogs. What we do is save the cardboard centers of toilet paper rolls and then we feed a small number of squares (12 or so) onto the roll from whole rolls of TP and put that on the TP holder. So when mom needs to use the bathroom, all there is are 12 squares. Of course, everyone else knows where the whole rolls are hidden and our pre-prepped 12 square rolls that we keep just for mom are constantly replenished.
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My MIL has the same issue with paper products. We buy the cheapest tissue by the case and buy Scott toilet paper (like you would find in a public bathroom) because she goes through so much. We have found that this toilet paper is septic safe and even if she uses a lot of it, it's not like using the same amount of Charmin. We also have this issue with napkins. My MIL uses so many napkins that we went to a commercial napkin dispenser. I would much rather buy these products than have you use her clothes, which she did before she came to us. I don't ever think we will be able to slow her down on her usage. We have at least 4 boxes of tissue going at one time for her...car, walker, where she sits, and sleeps.
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What difference does it make if one wants to wipe with a quilted northern sheet (2-ply) or a dollar store sheet (1-ply).

In the woods, when you got to go, you got to go. Wiping your butt with a leaf is NOT out of the question if you have no TP.
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But, seriously, its so healthy to find the humor in the quirky behavior of dementia. My caregivees have all done some version of these descriptions but I agree with Captain, if they're doing a good job of cleaning up, I'd rather have them using more than less.

This is a subject near and dear to MY heart as my mom harassed me from the time I started accomplishing my own personal hygiene until I moved out of the house. She thought I was always using too much toilet paper. lt was my thinking that I wanted to come away from the task with reasonably clean hands. It wasn't until her disabilities and illnesses, where I was either observing or supervising her bathroom activities, that I came to find out she was one of the "4 sheet" ladies. Unlike myself, she never cared if she got pee on her hands or poop under her fingernails. Ewwwww.

Once I realized this, I asked her, Mom, why do you do that? She informed me that toilet paper was expensive (cheap, like many others?!). I told her not to worry about that, the price had been lowered and we have plenty of money to buy toilet paper. She said that didn't matter, that "you never know when it might be hard to get". While further questioning might have allowed me to ferret out additional information about her thinking, it was obvious that the conversation was irritating her, so I had to let it go.

But my elder relatives, and most likely many on this site, who went through the depression, were taught to live on less money and to conserve in the extreme. On top of that, my mother's father died when she was 2, and her mother when she was 8. Between those ages, she sometimes lived in "the country" outside of St Louis with her maternal grandmother, 1/2 indigenous Indian descent. My great aunt told me that they didn't always have toilet paper (they didn't use corn cobs, haha, but they did make use of vegetation such as inedible weeds).

Just for reference, my mom was born in 1918. They ate differently in the city, but out in the country, they often had gruel for breakfast and rattlesnake with dandelion greens for a late dinner (which would be like a late lunch for us). For "supper" (our dinner), they might have tea and leftover bread or biscuits.

Makes it easier to understand how their generation came to be "cheap" as well as feel the need to save a scrap of anything, because they never knew when they might need it. This belief is so internally strong, it just gets magnified during dementia.
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Traded in tp for baby wipes. Get the dispenser that gives out one at the time. That way at least it will slow her down having to get one at the time. Also a baby diaper disposal system is great for disposing the wipes without stopping up the toilet. And wetness means cleaner wiping, too.
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For now, I have the opposite going on in my house. When my mom uses the toilet (to urinate) and she doesn't always flush she only uses one or two sheets! I don't want to say anything to make her feel bad but I would have no problem if she used a few more sheets! Captain, I had a good laugh....out loud.....reading your comments.....sooooo funny.....thanks.....I needed it! :)
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Every single post on this thread got a Helpful Answer "tick" from me. I was nearly doubled over with laughter. I'm telling you, if stand up comedians ever read these stories, their audiences would be rolling in the aisles!
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Wet wipes. Smaller, half-used rolls or even unwind and fold up more than enough to use and put the big rolls away. Hope something works!
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Ohh, what I have to look forward to. I had been considering buying a fancy shower curtain for mthr to go with her seaside decor (was a marine biologist), but she is rapidly approaching stage 6, and I think I will save the money for more TP. The curtain is beige with brown shells, but I think skid marks would be obvious still.

I recently saw an ad for Flylady's Clog Cannon, which is a hand pumped toilet pipe blaster. I'm going to preemptively buy it and try it on PEAT MOSS that one of my little kids dumped in the basement drain a few years back. Even when we snake through the peat so it will drain, the peat grows bigger and blocks the passage of water again. Metal snakes have to be rewound, but a blaster would be convenient. I'm sure it would work on TP troubles!
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Been there with the few squares of TP, now its diapers . Nicel explain that you have a septic system and it will cost money to fix if she clogs it. The elderly are super cheap and wont want to chip in to pay for it. IF she can read put up a huge note in the bathroom to use wastebasket, etc. Argh, its rough! My mom used to get up, drop her drawers and squat and pee all over my bedroom floor, we've been thru it all. Good luck
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sometimes you have to look hard to find the small blessings in life. be thankful that mom still knows the difference between s**t paper and a shower curtain..
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LSHIAPMP, Captain you're too funny. Momma too, sounds like a choo choo going down the hall.
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you win Captain, for # 1 Quirky personal habit of the loved one you are caring for!
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if the parent is toileting without assistance and cleaning themselves up i would consider exessive tp usage to be something i could live with. i think the wet adult wipes are much more effective. urinary infections can be caused by less than adequate cleanliness.
if quirky personal habits is the theme here my mom farts when shes walking thru the house sometimes continually. it doesnt embarass me a bit. getting rid of gas must be a real relief for her. caregiving has taught me a lot about humility and patience..
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first time I took all the tissues out of the nightstand, my husband came rushing downstairs that someone had robbed him. that is when I read about leaving a few behind. his nightstand with two large drawers is his haven, he says all he owns is in those draws, so I am very careful of not disturbing anything in there, basically check for overflowing stash, dog treats, candy pieces, and an occasional doggie poop bag, full & tied off! UGH
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