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Is it possible to contact the NH that discharged her to home a few weeks ago? They might have a social worker who can reach out to her and assist her with Her options. They may balk since she either bs’d them that she could manage at home or they were eager to get rid of her or both. Just a thought. Her church people seems like a good suggestion. And stop answering the door.
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help2day Jun 2022
Actually, since this is a neighbor and not an immediate family member, I sincerely doubt the NH/Rehab facility's SW would give you the time of day under HIPPA rules. She is at a crossroads -- she has contacted everyone she can think of and then some. APS has been contacted SEVERAL times and she has been able to "bs" them into having them believe she can manage on her own. Obviously, this woman has either some type of dementia or just plain will not accept boundaries (I'm guessing the former). I would just keep calling the local PD and have them talk to her about harassment of her neighbor. And don't answer the door.
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Wow, she yells and screams at you? That's crazy. Set a hard boundary...tell her no, you can no longer help her and she is NOT to come over to your house anymore. If she puts up a fight tell her if she enters your property one more time you are calling the cops. Do not go over and visit with her. Do not do her grocery shopping. Do not go help her fix something.
Here's the thing, she sounds like my mom who really needs to move into assisted living but is stubborn and refuses to do so. Instead she is living in her house, constantly asking neighbors and friends to help her and everyone is getting burned out. I am in another state and am trying VERY hard to convince her she can no longer live at home and every time a neighbor helps her it doesn't help my cause. She needs everyone to say no to make her realize she can no longer do this anymore. I'm taking her to go visit assisted living places the next time I visit if I can convince her to get in the car and actually go with me. Her stubbornness is driving me nuts. Meanwhile, she is a very self-centered person who has no problem constantly asking others to do things for her.
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I like the way Alva said this. For someone like this even a small gesture would give her the impression she can count on you. But to yell and scream because you won't come right away, something is wrong. Maybe she has Dementia and she thinks your her child?
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You need to tell her calmly and clearly that you do not want her coming to your door or contacting you any more. This cannot be a partway thing. It has to be severing ties. If she cannot do this I would contact her church pastor if you know where he/she is. If you do not, then this is worthy of a call to APS for wellness check. I am sad you cannot offer some help, but the fact is that it will be a slippery slope to the swamps if you try, I fear. My best out to you. This is very sad, but the truth is that she may not be able to be alone any more. And allowing her to go unaddressed leaves neighbors open not only to her requests, but to the danger of fires and etc.
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mgmbaker Jun 2022
Oh, I agree. It's likely an all-or-nothing thing.

My husband and I wound up in a similar situation. Our neighbor across the street was an amputee and in poor health, and his wife was very frail and didn't speak English or drive. Every time he fell, they had to call an ambulance to get him up - until my husband once told them to call him instead of the ambulance and he would come help. Next thing we knew, they were calling him for doctor appointments and errands. The wife would catch me in the yard and ask me to come help her with things. Once I was inside their house, she wouldn't want me to leave because she was lonely, but I couldn't communicate with her so it was very awkward. When she grabbed my arm and stood in my way to try to keep me from leaving, I got a little freaked out and never went back. I'm ashamed to say I would start watching her house as I approached my driveway and I would make the block and wait until she was inside before I would park at my own house and then I would rush inside before she could see me and come outside to stop me. I dodged her for months before they wound up having to give up their home so he could go to a nursing home and we don't know what happened to her.

We tried to be gentle in separating ourselves from them, but they didn't understand that we needed them to schedule appointments on certain days or early or late in the day to minimize my husband's time off work, and they didn't try to be considerate of our limited discretionary time in asking for our help, so we wound up having to build a wall around ourselves and telling them no over and over again. We felt like jerks for doing it, and really hated ourselves for it, but now that I have become responsible for my mother's care, we realize how important it is for caregivers to protect themselves first and foremost and set boundaries up front so that they are best able to take care of the ones that depend on them. We probably would handle the same situation differently than we did, but we didn't see the problems coming.

This is indeed a sad situation, but by allowing her to impose on her neighbors, her own long-term situation is not being properly addressed. Refusing her help will ultimately force the hand of those better equipped to help her situation.
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"Get off my property"
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I feel really sorry for that poor dog. Why is this world so screwed up? If this woman has dementia or mental illness she cant help what she is doing and needs someone to intervene. I would recommend APS but they seem pretty useless
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My daughter has been working from home. My other daughter made her a sign to tell people to not knock on her door because she is working.

Do not answer the door. There is something wrong with this woman. Who approaches a stranger this way. If you are in an apt complex, report her to the office.
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As others have suggested, report her to APS and make sure they understand it is urgent that they visit and open a case on her. You want to tell your neighbor that people who will help her are coming, but not sure she'll remember. Make sure you tell APS she has memory issues and has a history of falling, resulting in a hospitalization. Thank you for helping her, you are merciful.
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This frosts me...I entered a great answer and POOF it was gone....
Oh well...
If you are working from home do not answer the door during working hours. If you were working in an office you could not answer the door...same applies WFH.
With the price of gas above $5.00 a gallon tell her that if you take her to the store you will have to charge her.
If you wish to put a stop to other things tell her Tech Support will also cost her.
If you want to be "nice" pick a day of the week that is convenient for you and "give" her an hour or so to visit. Take a break, have a glass of Iced Tea and relax. Keep one important word in mind...BOUNDARIES. No one can take advantage of you unless you let them.
If she has no family and you wish to put a stop to this or are concerned a call to APS might be in order as it does not sound like she should be living alone.
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Sendhelp May 2022
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Who was it who arranged that you would care for her dog?

Get in touch with that person and tell them that she can no longer live unsupported.

Call APS and report her as a vulnerable elder.

Send a certified, return receipt letter to the management office/landlord and report that you are being harassed by a tenant.

See if you can find a family contact to call/email/write that she is in need of care.

Call the local police non-emergency number and ask for a "wellness check".
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If your neighbor has Alz/dementia which I assume she does, since you put your question in that category, nothing you say or do will make her understand that she's being pushy & you don't like or appreciate it. And that you want her to please stop doing it. Logic & reason has now left this woman's sphere of cognizance, and her memory is shot, too, so she is clueless that what she's doing to you is bothersome. And she doesn't care b/c her empathy center is now also mis-firing in her brain. Their filters vanish too, so they don't care they're screaming & yelling, and don't recognize it to be socially unacceptable behavior.


You telling this woman you'll see her every other day or 3x a week or whatever won't be enough; even if you tell her you'll see her daily, THAT won't be enough; then she'll want to see you 4x a day or even hourly, then you should move in with her, etc. Dementia makes no sense, and everybody loses who comes into contact with it, for the most part. That's been my experience with it, having a mother who suffered with dementia for 5+ years. It's awful.

Why, I wonder, is this woman living alone b/c she should NOT be doing so. Dementia needs to be tended to 24/7 by caregivers, either in home or in a managed care setting.

You should call APS and report this woman as a vulnerable elder who's living alone with dementia, IF she is living alone, and IF she has dementia.

If nothing is done by APS to see to it that she's moved into a safe living environment, I guess the best thing for you to do is move away. Or talk to her family if you ever see them come around. But if they cared a whole lot, they'd probably have seen to it that she wasn't living alone and/or had a caregiver coming around to look after her, IF that's not already happening.

Good luck with a difficult situation :(
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NightHeron Jun 2022
She has said in another comment that there is zero family and APS has been alerted by two different people. APS has come out, determined that she is not living in squalor, and said she can stay in her home as far as they're concerned. The woman's pastor is trying to get POA.
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Well it appears the lady is not coping living alone now.

A similar thing happened to a friend. Helped carry a bag of groceries for an elderly neighbour one day.. morphed into being selected as no #1 support person in a quick flash.. calls, doorbell, requests for groceries, driving to appointments +++.

In that case, a relative's number was obtained & family then stepped in.

While your neighbour's living situation is not actually your responsibility, it is awful to think of elders alone without care in our neighbourhood. This does not mean you have to provide it.. but consider how to get this lady onto some sort of radar for the assistance she needs.

Letting her church know if you can.

Calling APS does not sound unreasonable either.

She may even still be having effects from her recent hospital stay. Many elderly people get a level of delerium from falls & hospital stays. Some don't actually return to their pre-fall mental state.
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Cheddarveil Jun 2022
I did contact her pastor. He is working with an atty to try and get power of attorney and then move her to assisted living. He has called APS, her other neighbor has called APS. They have been over to see her, and they are saying that as long as she can cook for herself and is not living in squalor, she can stay home. APS has deemed her able to stay in her home and make her own choices. She has no family. Her husband and both child passed away a number of years ago. I am calling APS myself to report what has been happening
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