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Your post made me so sad. You are miserable and angry, you're depressed, you're giving up your chances at happiness in a relationship with a woman because of your situation, and you are waiting for her to die before your life can "really start." I think suggestions others have given for reading and watching videos are excellent ideas. I've always been helped by "bibliotherapy," reading about others who've been in my situation and gotten through it! I strongly suggest getting a therapist asap who can work with you to change your situation, however it's done. You need help and support for this.

Your father would hate to see you giving up your life for your mother. It does seem that you really know this. It also seems like you are expecting her to change into a loving, kind, compassionate, unselfish person. She's not going to, and you probably realize this. Your post suggests you want to find a way to continue living with her, hoping against hope that you can find happiness anyway. You have devoted 25 years to this woman, and this hasn't happened.

As others have said, she could live another 10-15 years and hopefully you'll live much longer. It's not too late at age 50 to begin living the life you want. She could be placed in a nursing home, senior facility, assisted living, whatever place the finances allow. Your local Area Agency on Aging (and great information on-line, like this website we're on) can guide you in her placement. She won't like it, she won't agree, she'll blame you for everything, but she'll survive and you will too. You can visit her when you like and not see her when you don't want to. This is coming down to your life or hers. You must make difficult choices, and therapy can help with this.

We wish you the very best as you work through this. My heart goes out to you.
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vinman31 Sep 2019
Thank you so much Mary. Sorry for the delay in replying to you and some others on here. I am overwhelmed by the messages of support, yet also sad to see so many in the same boat. I appreciate your kind words and suggestions and ideas. I realize now that I need a therapist to help me with this. Nothing is going to change if I don't do something. It's not going to magically improve. It may sound ridiculous, but I see that now. All along I kept hoping I could do something on my own to make things more bearable. "More bearable" is no way to live. I need much more than that. Thank you again Mary.
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I pray for help and it's amazing how happier I am. One thing that has come to me in difficult situations, thinking it's their party and I'm not invited and go on with other things and pretty soon I get an apology
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lealonnie1 Sep 2019
It's like I have always told my children.....what good is an apology if the behavior stays the same?
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My response will not be popular. Walk away. You do not owe your Dad anything. You really don't. It will be the hardest and best thing you ever did. Parents who do this to their children are blackmailing them emotionally. Please go and find a counselor and talk this out. You are a person of value and worth and your mother does not or is no longer capable of valuing you. There is not shame in admitting that you are not able to do this type of caregiving. If she has not given you or your brother power of attorney, see an attorney (elder law) and find out what your options are for legal guardianship. Perhaps she is no longer competent. If you do not have legal responsibility in any way, ask him about what happens if you walk away. I had to do this with my father. Sadly, I never spoke to him again, and it took several years to forgive myself and come to terms with leaving my Mom with him as he was so abusive. But she had made her choice staying with him. And I was not able to please him in anyway. I have always been sorry that I was never able to figure out how to please him. But I finally have forgiven myself. In the meantime, I have kept my own sanity and my health has returned. (P.S. My sister sued me for elder abuse--I won. She is a lawyer and it was th first case she ever lost in her legal career. She no longer speaks to me either--so I lost all my family when I waked away.) Find a good counselor and a good lawyer. And love yourself enough to walk away.
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anonymous739426 Sep 2019
What an ordeal you've been though. So sorry to hear it. And, I think your message will be a popular one because it speaks the truth. I wanted to put an idea to you - maybe it was by design that you could never please your father. I know this was always a family pattern in my family - he never allowed anyone in the family to feel a sense of accomplishment that they had done something positive for him; and therefore it kept everyone in a never ending cycle trying to please him. It's a narcissistic and/or borderline feature and I stopped trying when I realised nothing ever was going to please him. My poor mother who stayed until the end of her life always said to me "I am always wrong" (when it came to him). He never allowed her to be right. It's terrible abuse and very self serving. On her death bed he leaned over her and said "you should suffer". That's the moment I realised what he was. A sadist, and very sick. Anyone who recognises this pattern you speak of should get out of the caring role, because your care will never be appreciated or acknowleged. They unfortunately are so delusional thinking that their manipulations will make you stay forever - often it does the opposite and you walk away. For others, they stay locked in forever. It's very very sad!
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sounds like time to say " O K you old BTH I'm outta here!!!!! " and let that set in for a couple of days. YOU need to grow up and enjoy whatever life you have left with no regrets
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lealonnie1 Sep 2019
I literally laughed out loud at your response!! Thanks for the chuckle
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Good advice here.  I was always told that the only person you can really change is oneself.  Mom needs to hear that, and also needs to here that her whining and complaining attitude stop here.  You will not be a party to it. She may have sacrificed for you and your brother, but you didn't sign up for the verbal abuse and poor attitude.  You will only be able to continue this living situation with her changing her attitude.
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I have said this multiple times before. When the behavior of the patient becomes obnoxious, abusive, manipulative and it starts making the caretaker feel the beginning of being destroyed and unappreciated, etc., then why on earth would anyone allow it to continue? As soon as this happens, after all attempts to fix it and stop it have failed, would you have them around you? They must be removed and placed into a facility so you have peace. You should have no guilt - you are saving your sanity and your life and living the life you deserve. Do something now.
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Promises made years ago to a parent, are promises that you made in a different era some 15 years ago ,under some duress and things have changed a lot in that time frame. I know this may sound harsh but you and your brother need to stiffen up your spines, present a united front, talk to her and tell her that you are both getting older and your no longer going to be able to do as much for her. Find some places near you where she can go live in an assisted living center of if you chose to let her continue to live with you, then she is going to have to hire and pay for out of her social security or pension, some of the associated costs, A couple of doctors told me early on when my husband was diagnosed with ALZ, that it was time for me to take charge and not let her rule the roost. I was encouraged to get involved in an Alz. support group, to get out and take some time for me and not let her continue to dominate the running of the household. When she starts to berate you over something, don't try to argue with her, you will never win. Either change the subject or leave the room. If she insists on still talking about whatever it is, get in the car and go out for awhile. Let her know her previous responses are not going to work. If someone is getting your goat, it is because you are letting them know where your goat is tied. You have a right to a life of your own just as much as she does. But now it is going to be on different terms. Above all do not let her guilt you into doing her way or no way. You might be surprised by what happens when you let her know, enough is enough. Good luck.
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Vinmam31,
I think we’re related! Lol! Your mom is my mom & what you’re going through, I am!!
If you had a good relationship with your Dad, do you really think he’d want you to live like this?
Mom could no longer live in assisted living so I brought her to my home to avoid a nursing home. What in the world was I thinking??? Now that she’s here, Im touring nursing homes & she’s on lists!!! Do it for yourself. My son is 50 & I would never expect him, nor would his Dad, to take care of me. He has his life & his family.
If your Mom can go to assisted living, make the arrangements!! You deserve to have a life! Nothing you will ever do will make her happy so quit trying!! I think you’re doing like I did at first, appease, appease. I don’t do it any longer, I leave the room or go outside. She gets the message. I take her to a senior center 2 days a week so that my husband & I can have a couple of days to go to lunch, errands, out on our boat, etc. You just have to do it!!!
Im so sorry because I thoroughly understand. Mom is 89 & she’d complain if hung with a new rope.
I hope you can walk away from the abuse & do it for you. Your mom will be ok, get her with others her age & they can complain together!!
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vinman31 Sep 2019
Thank you for your helpful reply. Hearing what you've said - what many of you have said - about is this something my dad would have wanted, has been an eye opener. I never really thought about how he would feel today - and yes he would be horrified. I instead focus on what he asked and how I've tried to do that, never considering the impact on me. I have a tendency to always put others needs before my own - a disaster in the making when taking care of my mother. I see it now and that's why I am grateful to everyone on here who has taken time to respond, suggest therapy or assisted living and share their stories. When you spend too many years worrying about others instead of yourself, it's quite a realization to see how bad things have gotten and how you need to make changes immediately. I hope I can walk away from the abuse. Thank you again.
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Listen......my father made me promise, on his deathbed, to 'take care' of my now 92.5 year old mother and I swore to him I would. What does that mean, exactly? That I promised to give up my entire LIFE to move mother into my home? Of course not! It means that I promised to 'take care' of my mean spirited, complaining mother by taking care of ALL of her finances and needs by being her POA at the Memory Care Assisted Living community she resides at. When YOU promised your father you'd take care of your mother, you took things a bit too literally. You've now given up your entire LIFE by living with your narcissistic Livia-Soprano-like mother (God help us all) and now you're about ready to die yourself, right? Because this Hell on earth is worse, catering to her selfish needs 24/7.

Place your mother IMMEDIATELY. She will never be happy ANYWAY, so what's the point of wasting ONE more minute trying to make her happy? Ain't no book or article on earth gonna fix THIS, my friend.

Go tour a few privately owned Assisted Living Communities in your area. Speak to the RESIDENTS and ask them how they like living there? Then ask the same of a couple of caregivers. When you find a place where everyone says good things, THAT is the place for your mother. If she's not in need of assistance, then place her in an Independent Living apartment situation that meets your criteria. Don't give her a choice. You know why? At 83, she could easily live another 10-15 YEARS. Think about that............another 10-15 years of THIS, and you will be 60 or 65 years old or OLDER, and STILL trying to make her happy, and still failing miserably. Because women like this are never happy, no matter what. Trust me. I know from where I speak.

So now it's time to pay someone else to bear that burden. If she has no money, apply for Medicaid.

Best of luck. You've done enough. Got that?
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TomUs225 Sep 2019
I sooooo agree with you!
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Finding a therapist saved me. I would encourage you to find one and don’t hold back. Even if you think you can’t afford it, you can’t afford to NOT do it. If your mom’s like this at 83 you could have another 10+ years to go. She will outlast you if you aren’t careful.

Consider this - are you SURE your dad would want you to devote your entire life to your mother? He wanted you to make sure she was cared for and looked after. You are doing WAY more than that. Good luck.
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vinman31 Sep 2019
Thank you TomUs225. I have considered speaking to a therapist but haven't been sure if it would help. I'm very happy it has worked for you and I will look into it this week.
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I haven't read any other responses. So forgive me if this is redundant or you have already vetoed the idea. (Just reading responses, yeah, we are all mostly on the same page.)

1st off, death bed promises are emotional blackmail and manipulation in my opinion. They are so unfair to the person the promise is being exacted from.

You are obviously going to hold to your promise, that is why you are living in hell with no plans for escape.

Taking care of someone doesn't mean that you have to give up your life and have them live with you. You can put her in a facility and you are honoring your promise. She will be fed, safe, warm and taken care of.

I would do some research on facilities close to you or not, figure out if she can pay or start the public assistance process. Then tell her she is moving as you take her out the door.

She had her life, she obviously didn't start having children until she was in her late 30s and you were younger then that when she became your charge. It's not what a loving mom does to her children.

Place her and go back to being her son and advocate and let her chew on someone else for a few years.
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vinman31 Sep 2019
Thank you Isthisrealyreal - I appreciate your comments and advice. You make very good points. I appreciate it.
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vinman: The death bed promise can't hold up because your mother is driving you crazy. Something MUST change, else you drop over and faint and fall ill - then you'll be good to no one.
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vinman31 Sep 2019
Thank you Llamalover47
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Will you marry me lol!!! I'm swf 55 never married, asthma and underlying heart disease and anxiety. Mother is 87 with lupus, chronic pain, and lots more! Your mom and my mom really should meet! Mine loves Italian food.
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Many here have offered very good advice. You need to take care of you first. Was your mother always this way? If not, you might want to talk to her doctor. Perhaps an anti-depressant is in order if this is not who she use to be. Or, it could be something else that is an underlying medical issue.
If this is who she's always been, then you should have a
'come to Jesus' talk with her and tell her you need to have your space and own life.
If possible, get your brother involved in her care. All her children are responsible for her, not just you.
She'll try to make you feel like a disloyal son, as that is how she runs. But if she wants life on her terms, then she needs to be in a senior living community in her own apartment. She'll be in a safe environment and have 24 hour care, should she need it. You can still care for her but the arrangement needs to be different.
The stress you are under will eventually affect your health. In the meantime, treat yourself to a monthly massage, reconnect with friends and get out with them weekly.
I was the caregiver for both my parents but, thankfully, didn't have the personality issues you have nor did they live in my house, despite efforts to get them to move into a safer home layout. I cannot imagine your stress!

I wish you success in getting your life back.
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vinman31 Sep 2019
Thank you SCBarb55. I appreciate your kind, helpful words of support.
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Hi there I sympathise with you. I am 43 and living with my father who is 83 and has been diagnosed with vascular dementia. He is a very angry man and extremely bitter. He is wounded and i expect your mother is too. Life throws all sorts of things at us. My father still tries to control me. He is arrogant and lazy. He wont do anything all day except sit and smoke. He wont watch tv or read or have any interest in anything. He has no friends noone around him. He has a sister who he has fallen out with over 40 years ago. Its one problem after another and i can only say to you please do not press the pause button on your life because of your mother. You have to live your life and do the things you want to do. I too wish many a time that my father would die. He has hurt me a lot over the years. Its a lot to bear and like yourself i struggle daily. If you want to talk more you can message me and i would be happy to share emails.
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anonymous739426 Sep 2019
I hope you get the respite, and peace that you deserve. Your situation sounds extremely difficult. I have a father like this, and it has been an enormous relief since he has gone into AL. His behaviours remain, but at least there is a "whole village" so to speak to share around his toxicity and it is not on my shoulders 100 percent. My father would never agree to go to AL, but there his property was severely damaged in a storm and he had no choice. I hope the same luck comes your way too, soon!
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There are people who are incapable of being happy & your mom seems to be one - your dad didn't know how she would be so long after his death - the promise you made was without you being fully informed about what was involved & I think you have done your time & stop ruining your life for her -

Maybe time for mom to go to assisted living before she is the one standing at your graveside - visit her but living with her is past being what is good for you - she won't be happy no matter what you do so maybe do something to make yourself happier

Time for you to join some group in the evenings/weekends - start with a religious or charitable group because then she won't have much ground in saying things against them OR take a course on woodworking or such to 'improve yourself' or a gym .... just get out of that poisonous atmosphere - if you meet someone then go with it .... you dad didn't say 'ruin you own life & take care of mom'
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vinman31 Sep 2019
Thank you moecam - I appreciate your comments and advice.
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Vinman you are all of us! I believe your father did not truly understand what he was asking of you and if he knew what would happen, would not want you to sacrifice your own life for anyone. I don’t know why some older people are so selfish; my mother is selfish too. She lived her life and retirement, now she wants me to give up mine just for her. I said no...and moved her to a retirement community that is attached to a LTC home. I’m also in my 50’s and I plan to downsize and travel while I still can. Among other things. and I don’t care what she or anyone has to say. Be strong, and take control back. Am I understanding you have been doing this since the age of 25? And you have given up relationshiops since she is so nasty to others? Why are you sacrificing? You do not have to live like you are. That’s not even living... Best wishes, keep us posted.
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You are your own person...you are not your father.  Your father committed to taking care of her "till death do us part"...you didn't.  She needs to be in a facility where she can meet others and do activities that are age appropriate.  Do not feel guilty.  You might be surprised how well she does being around others that are her age and in her stage of life.  She is probably lonely and miserable and a bit self absorbed...I mean really, what else does she have to do.  She might do really well in assisted living.  Think about it...you could have your life back and she could have new friends while still getting the assistance that she needs.
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lealonnie1 Sep 2019
You are so right about that. My mother has flourished in Assisted Living.....shes always been social and AL is her outlet for all that. She gets to show off new outfits, share stories, listen to entertainment...the list is endless. Many people paint a picture of AL being a horror story when in reality, if you choose the right one, it's summer camp for the geriatric crowd.
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My dear friend,
You need to SIMPLY find your voice.
Stop, stop it all, stop now.
Give it right back.
Who, is at who’s mercy?
Not one thing you said, I haven’t experienced.
BUT......I started fighting back and told the truth about the selfish behavior.
We have spent MANY HOURS INCOMMUDICADO!!!!
I feel better!!!!!!
Don’t care!!!!
STAND YOUR GROUND!!!!!!
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Every other sentence here you change. Did you notice that? Go back and read your last paragraphs. One will complain of the aunt quite bitterly and the next sentence will show great sympathy for her and what she is going through. And back and forth and back and forth.
It is very difficult to live with anyone, in all truth. Roommates, husbands, children. You name em, we can fight with em. My brother and I laugh about his Assisted Living often looking like a hippie commune for the fights and the divisions and the sides and the community meetings. It is hard.
I noticed when I used to keep diaries that I only journaled when I was peeved. Made it look as though my life was miserable.
About my only idea is to do the GRAY ROCK. Or answer always gently. And be certain that there are territories for retreat for BOTH of you. Her room is off limits to you. Yours is off limits to her. And you retreat there to replenish yourself in your "room of one's own".
You do not mention the degree that dementia is involved in all this. The more it IS involved the more hopeless any actions will be for making change, and in the end, sounding the bugles for retreat is sometimes the only way. Good luck. Do look up gray rock. It can be a help.
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Isthisrealyreal Sep 2019
Alva, who are you talking to?
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vinman: You're welcome.
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I am not sure, you are not alone though. My mother is 93 recently fell and broke her hip. She fits the description you just posted. I feel ya.i broke down in tears today, she said nothing to me nor was a support to me. Mom and dad separated when I was about 9 dad gained custody, mom has never really fit the description. To be honest I never really knew my mother until she could no longer live by herself. No one else wanted to step up to the plate, I did and I now get treated terrible by her. She is in a grandiose state of mind. I know it is not her fault but.... there is a book called 36 hours, someone mentioned this book to me. I have not purchased it yet, but do intend to. Keep up the good work in keeping your promise to your father. He would be very proud of you!
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lealonnie1 Sep 2019
The OPs father would also be very proud of him if he chose to place his mother in a lovely Assisted Living apartment and care for her from there, by being POA and orchestrating ALL of her care and needs which also constitutes "keeping his promise". There are many ways to care for elderly loved ones without destroying our own lives in the process, as I'm sure you know.
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You are not alone. My 85 year old FIL lives with us. I have no privacy anymore. I cannot go downstairs in the morning for a cup of coffee without him coming out and telling me something about himself. He’s very self centered. And he doesn’t do anything around the house because he can’t lift things. He gets his own cereal in the morning and of course leaves me his dishes. I could go on and on about him but I really just try to accept my circumstances. I don’t really like him as a person because that’s my husbands father. My husbands two siblings will have nothing to do with him. Anyway I didn’t imagine my life like this when kids were out of house. We literally had a few months of being empty nesters. So I’m looking forward to buying a home with an in law suite so hopefully that will give us a little more privacy. I doubt it but hopeful. Good luck to you. You must have the patience of a saint.
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vinman31 Sep 2019
Thank you for your helpful reply. I am sorry to hear about your situation. I wish you the very best in finding a place where you can have some well-deserved privacy.
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My heart goes out.....I began care taking my father in 2012 and moved onto my mom in 2013, after he passed at 94. If I ever thought my dad was difficult, I was mistaken. My mother, who passed in Dec 2018 at 94, became almost unbearable with many similarities as yours in action, speech, & attitude. There were times I refused to go see her (she lived in AL). Finally I saw a therapist who advised me that what I was experiencing was indeed abuse and did not have to take it. When it would happen I would tell her I loved her but would not engage.....then I'd leave her apartment. While I realize you promised your dad you'd care for her, that does not mean you have to live together. If you have not other choice, , then arrange for hired care help, to come in so you do not shoulder it all. I wish I could say I never yelled at her or walked away angry, but I tried. We are all only human. Yet you are not responsible for your mom to the detriment of your own life. I'm sure your dad wouldn't want that to happen either. I do respect your efforts, and you can rest assured you should experience no guilt when she's gone. There will come a day, I believe, you'll be one of those wishing for another conversation. Until then, however, you must protect yourself and do not wait for her death to begin your life! What a friend told me proved true - with time the bad memories fade and are replaced with some of the good ones. How I doubted that I would experience that as I spent years with only her negativity and complaining - and all was my fault of course!! Now I can see more clearly how becoming dependent and having little control over her life created the monster I thought she was. And how I miss her now! Read the book 36 Hours - it brought so much insight into the brain. Good luck to you....you have many prayers!
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vinman31 Sep 2019
Thank you for your reply and for your kind, helpful words. And thank you for your prayers. I will check out the book as well. Greatly appreciated.
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It is amazing how many people are dealing with a dysfunctional family and/or abusive parent(s). We are all in the same boat so to speak. My nightmare is my 95 yo father who is and always has been a full spectrum toxic Narcissist with paranoid delusions and possibly ASPD as well. My mother was a codependent, enabling martyr. He treated her like crap for 64 years. The long term stress gave her a heart condition (A Fib) and last Thanksgiving she had a massive stroke and died at 89. I blame him for turning her into a bitter, judgmental, depressed old woman. Although he smoked for over 60 years and has COPD and emphysema, he managed to outlive her, and now I'm stuck with his narc abuse w/o her as a buffer.
I had made it clear from the get-go that being a hands on primary caregiver in their old age was not an option. (I never had kids and I am disabled for PTSD.)
Last summer I had to move them from independent living to Assisted Living and also became DPOA as Mom was losing memory rapidly. It's a beautiful facility with open restaurant style dining, etc and all they did was complain about everything. It's exhausting. I cut back on visiting as I couldn't take it - my anxiety was through the roof and BP was over 200!
Now, he just gets more mean and nasty the older he gets. When he can't do whatever he wants or get his way, he is horribly rude and obnoxious. I am so afraid of getting the phone call that they will kick him out.
I am the oldest of 3 and have always been the scapegoat and my 2 useless brothers conveniently live 1100 miles away. They were the Golden Child, especially the youngest, could do no wrong. I don't even get moral support from him. I am now very low contact with Nfather as I can't stand to be in the same room with him. For the past several years, his big thing has been that everyone (staff, doctors, hospitals, rehab, etc) all treat him like a sex offender due to a revenge plot by someone he used to know years ago spreading rumors about him. He also goes around telling any one who will listen that he he is a Holocaust Survivor. Um... he'd never been to a concentration camp and is not even Jewish! A life time of lies, no regard for anyone else's feelings, verbal abuse. I lost all respect for the man years ago and I have no love left for him either. He will die alone and will have brought it all onto himself with his deplorable behavior. I have no guilt; I did my best. He is in a safe place, cared for by professionals. I make sure bills are paid and manage all financial affairs as I am the sole trustee and executrix. I have lost the best years of my retirement and am trying to focus on my own health issues from all the stress. Had to go off my PTSD meds in January as I have liver damage. My goal is to not let him kill me too.
We can't make it better, we can't fix them or make them happy. Get out as soon as you can. Save yourself. Karma has no menu. We get served what we deserve. I just keep telling myself "Not my circus, not my flying monkeys, not my problem." Sorry my venting got carried away. No one deserves to be abused or treated badly by a toxic parent. I hope you can salvage what is left of your life. Best of luck and a big hug.
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care4dad Sep 2019
Your rant was perfect for this site! We cannot care for others if belittling and abuse is being dished out. So sorry you are not appreciated or have support, but glad you've found what works. Hope you find strength to carry on.
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I have said it before and I am getting sick of having to say it again and again. In life there are situations and there are people, either or both, that are doing great harm to you by their very nature. Then YOU have a decision to make. YOU need to ask yourself if YOU deserve what is happening and being done to you? Have YOU tried to do al in your power to fix it and you know you can't fix it? Is it going to get better or will it get worse and continue to get worse? Then you will hopefully wake up and see the trees in the forest. YOU DO NOT NEED TO PUT UP WITH THIS NO MATTER BECAUSE YOU FEEL GUILTY OR BECAUSE OF PROMISES, ETC. You do not deserve this and if that means eliminating the problem, then find a way to do it - no if's, and's or but's. If you don't, you are a fool and a weakling and I assure you that your life will be hell. If you want peace and a life, REMOVE THE OFFENDERS. There simply is no other way. Been there, done that - and it took guts and was the hardest thing I ever did - but it was a blessing to me that I would never have had. It was the right and only choice I could make and I thank God every day I finally had the guts to do this.
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my2cents Sep 2019
omg Riley. If someone doesn't follow your advice to kick someone to the curb - you're actually going to call them a weakling and a fool??? You may have really walked away from someone, but clearly there is much leftover anger.
Can't speak for others, but I come here to get ideas on how to approach issues (behavior and otherwise) from other people experiencing similar. It could be a professional needs to be called in to help undo a pattern of behavior that we didn't deal with in the very beginning. Sometimes there's a dementia issue and there is no fixing a broken mind, but someone may offer a better approach.
The very last thing I'd want in the way of input is for someone to call me a fool and a weakling if I didn't have the guts, as you put it, to walk away and say to H3LL with them. -- Bless your heart, as we say in the South.
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The dynamics between the two of you (and perhaps brother, too) have probably been established for years and apparently what she is doing works for her. You cannot expect to fix all of this overnight, but you might need to speak with a professional to help you learn how to react to her comments.

Since you are employed, she is either able to care for herself when you're at work or you have someone coming in to take care of her. Either way, find some activity outside of work that you enjoy and let her know you'll be out 1 evening a week to do that. Maybe she is in the house too much - could you take her to a place of her choice on one of your no work days. Make her select place to go so she can't say it was your fault if she didn't like it. If she has no desire to pick a place, don't go anywhere. At TV time, tell her you plan to watch XX show this evening and ask if she'd like to watch it too. YOU take remote during that show. If at any point she loses interest, then go to the other tv room and finish watching on your own....watch your movie from beginning to end.
-Get her involved in the grocery list..candy, whatever it is she wants. Then keep the list after shopping. When she complains, tell her it was not on the list and show her. - Have her start a new list w/the items she forgot last time.
-If she is on a roll about something, tell her how it makes you feel. If it won't stop, tell her you will be in another room until she can talk nicer to you.
-I don't know if you argue back with her, but if you do...you have to learn how to communicate differently. That's where a professional can help you learn new habits...suggestions of things to say in response...how to engage differently. You might even talk to your mom's dr. There are medications to help take the edge off and she may very well need something. -Baby steps to change what has been going on a long time...
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How are u today vinman31 ? Hope some peace has come into ur situation...(we know how it is).
Do you think that we want to fix everything too much? (Or make everybody happy)? Maybe that's just me!
Did u & mom have a difficult relationship in ur childhood? (Excuse my curiosity).
I hope you will set goals for ur own happiness vinman31.
If it seems like you're giving up, it's okay to give up...the things that are driving u crazy😳. Take care.
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See my other answer below. As far as I am concerned, I don't care what you promise, not to God or to the devil. If circumstances and situations change and the promise you made is now negatively affecting you and your life, YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO CANCEL THAT PROMISE. If you keep a promise and you are being abused and made the most unhappy soul or being put into a dangerous bad situation, you have no choice but to make things happen so YOU are safe and protected and that means removing yourself from this person. You have no other choice. You are doing the ONLY right thing you can do.
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Motherhatesme Jan 2020
Im scared to do what I have to do. I'm 46 going on 12 because of this.
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Wow Me too!!!!!

Took me years to realise and its tough to get you're head around but the narc does not give a monkeys about you. I went through hell with my Dad - almost lost my wife and kids.....

Hes still the same. Some of the things he does defies belief. Its always about him and an idea hes got in his head.

This last week hes moaned my wife didn't phone him specially on his birthday. What? I don't specifically phone my MIL either. My wife hasn't seen him for 18 months due to the way hes treated her and I don't blame her. But apparently she should be more respectful and phone him.

Basically, admit hes in charge, and pay homage to him. Its all about control with him. Hes got to know he can control things and anyone.

Some of the things hes done to me in the past. If someone else did this you'd never speak to them again.
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MrsGumby1208 Nov 2019
My God, I'm sure you just described my father. It has taken me years to realise how totally narcissistic he is. He's always been.a control freak, but now with dementia in.the mix, these traits have manifested themselves to epic proportions. Now it's poor me, constant whinging and self pity.
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