Who do I go to when I find out that my elderly Mom was swindled by organized scammers?

Also, just to go back a bit, the bank won't release its security footage to you, but they must to the police if the police demand it. And if you have reasonable grounds to suppose that your mother met with fraudsters or extortioners outside the bank, and was coerced into handing over large bundles of cash, then the police have cause to investigate what took place and see if they can discover whom she was meeting with. I wouldn't let that line of enquiry go, either.

I see.

no nothing in writting but I will definetly do that.There is a doctor(che's retired now)who is still a client of my mom,told her everything that happened to my mom and told me that next time she sees my mom she would give her some trick questions to see if she has dementia or something similar.That doctor said that she seemed fine,but recommended a doctor foe she to see to completly check her out.i was in Texas with my mom last week but to no avail,she doesnt want to go to a doctor or tell me anything about these scammers.I know the road to this is long,but i will endure.I'ts my mom.

Are you in Texas? Have you WRITTEN to the Texas Attorney General? Have you made all the requests to APS, DA, BANK, etc, in WRITING?

Bank likely closed her account to PROTECT her from these folks who have her checking account number.

So, just to re-cap, police, DA, APS the attorney general in the state where mom lives, consumer fraud protection agency, state banking commision. Tapes from lobby can be suppuoenaed by the DA or AG. You need to put your requests in writing and present then in a business-like fashion.

I think we've given you all the advice we have to give.

I know this post is a year old guys....it hasnt been easy...with my also tending to my own problems and responsibilities in life.Like i said,through this period that passed,I was able to secure my mom's lasting little property she still has and had the titles placed in my name,to protect her from anyone out there wanting to again prey on the elderly like my mom.Tried and tried to speak with aps several times..and they keep saying the same thing...."she doesnt want to say who did this ti her,theres nothing we can do".And unfortunately,those checks she wrtote in multi thousands....each time,she wrote to cash.After my arguing with that bank to see if indeed it was my mom cashing those cheks at the bank,they said that it was her but they will not release the videos when my mom would go outside after making the transactions-to see who she was with.And will you beleive that the bank didnt want anymore complaining that my elderly mom was being scammed by some syndicated group and wound up cancelling my mom's checking account because of this?? That's why I need some guidance in thiis people........you all have heard it all...please....who else can i get help???

This post is fom a year ago. Is this still unresolved? Did you contact the Attorney General in your state? Nothing happened to solve it? What did you try to do?

She won't say who the people are?

A check is a receipt. The bank will have access to the checks once they are presented. To whom were the checks made out?

Although its been very difficult to know who my mom's perpetrators are,there is some information concerning this organized group,when she wrote a letter to my aunt and uncle telling them about these people and that they not tell any one else.What I've done is, what she has left that is of any value like her remaining property,the titles were changed to my name.She already lost one property by someone forcing her to sell it then deposit the amount of the sale to her checking account then wrote several checks against the sale amount running her account to zero!......I could not believe it but it did happen.But an elderly attorney doesnt want to handle this.I need guidance...but from whom??...since the a.p.s. wont help because she will not say who were these people are who took all her life savings..and still are threatening her....

You mentioned having limited resources and you can't act on many of the suggestions. My resources were also limited when something needed done about my foster dad. What finally ended up happening is I found out about the APS and at some point they eventually stepped in and intervened. They ended up moving him to a safe location and he eventually ended up with a court appointed guardian around the same time he was to be put into a nursing home. I recently saw him in passing because the guardian cut off my visits right after I reported witnessing abuse in the nursing home. I don't know what the nursing home said to the guardian, but the nursing home was behind cutting off my visits through the guardian after I reported witnessing abuse and now all I can do is see dad in passing. Sometimes having a court appointed guardian outside the family may not be in your favor but very necessary when no one else has the resources to properly care for someone who needs help.

Very concerned... I would also entertain the possibility that Mom is confused or even delusional about the Mafia thing. She may be giving money away to someone she likes and not wanting to stop. You may not be to the bottom of it yet. Hope you can make sense out of the whole story at some point.

I know I havent posted anything under this issue in a while...particularly because you guys thought I was being a troll or something like that...that i wanted to create drama.But i think after that you guys were finally able to understand me a little bit..Ii ve emailed the dept of justice In DC on this issue....just a few days ago iI visitedmy mom and she finally leaked out as to whom has scammed and robbed her...some woman she met at her former job,took advantage of my mom's good character and ultametly turned to be part of a ring of scammers...but she didnt say all this to me.I figured it out when she mentioned that she "doesnt want me to deal with any of her business(Im her only son)!!...but she leaked out something very important.....she told me not to get her in trouble with the m___.....so......its organized crime scammer group....I know this can be and be very dangerous to handle...my mom has nothing ot her name..Im her dpoa at least....elder attorneys dont deal with this....i just need some guiidance...........wow........

1rare... my parents both stashed cash,, and gambled. They just didn;t hide it!! Cash all over.. lots of older folks do this.. maybe left over from the depression or a general mistrust of banks? And lots of seniors go to the casino.. it becomes a social thing, perhaps as thier abilty to do other types of travel becomes smaller. If Mom is embarassed,, she may be hiding it because she is losing..

Speaking on behalf of us all, we are all doing our very best to throw out suggestions so that you can hopefully find any clues possible, because no stone should be left unturned. None of us are there to see your situation, and all we can do is turn every stone possible. Hopefully you will find the answers that you're looking for and hopefully you'll also be able to bring this very sad situation to a happy ending since none of us really knows what's going on behind the scenes

And I have read all your comments,and unfortunately all off you are mistaken.It's probably because you all have seen people post things here that seemed suspicious,and i do understand that it can be taken that way.I came to this place to see if I could get suggestions,and not all of them have been acted upon because of limited resources.I am very very new to this people....very new and never thought I would experience such a thing as this.Thank you for reminding me about the person who bought that property I mentioned and maybe they might know who my mom was with.I'm going to see how.And several other suggestions I've taken from you and acted upon.I apologize that you people see me that way,really am.I'm a baby at this kind of handling...serious and dangerous situation my elderly mom has gotten into ..and trying the best I can to act on your suggestions.And really thank you for all of your suggestions. I hope that with what you all have given me,something will become apparent and when it becomes proof,I'll make sure that justice is done to the fullest extent of the law.Thank you again.I will not post anymore because of what you think of me.

pamzimmrrt has a strong point, so now there's another avenue I don't think anyone else may have thought of before.

Are you sure she's not stashing the cash or gambling? Have you checked her house for clues? This is something even I never thought of because I don't stash cash or gamble. I guess if you just don't do or deal with these things in any way, then you tend to not even think of them if they're not part of your life.

First, you may want to check your mom's house as well as all of her other records. Another thing you can do is check with the local casinos to see if she ever visits them.

Take a picture of your mom so that workers can see who you're talking about because they'll recognize her if she ever comes into their establishment.

Another thing to consider is that if you can check your mom's medical records and speak to her doctors, check to see if she's ever been diagnosed with dementia or Alzheimer's. If she has, there's a chance she may not even be competent depending on how long ago she was diagnosed. The longer you have dementia or Alzheimer's, the less competent you become because it takes over everything, especially if you've had it for a number of years. This is definitely where I would check now

Why the heck did VC not also look into who the buyers of the properties are? If it was a legit sale, they may have noticed if anyone accompianed Mom to the settlement? Also odd that Mom wants help, but wont tell ANYONE anything.. Maybe she is stashing the cash.. or gambleing? And she has no dememtia ( or very little?) If this is legit.. she is way over the dementia line!

Veryconcerned what scam did she fall for?

This is not a troll,as someone said.It's just that there is no other relative to be helping my mom whose gotten into this situation.I'm the only one,her only son,and I am trying to do all that you all suggest,some that I've already done and caused my mom to get angry at me,such was freezing her account.And I did talk to an elderly attorney and explained to him the situation,and just like the DA told me,it is her that would have to come forward and request the help,not myself.And just because I haven't followed all of your suggestions,doesn't mean Im ignoring them.I appreciate all this.But Im the only family member who is doing all this for my mom...no one else.Some suggestions take time...time that Im trying to allocate...like moving my mom from that state.I do want to do that,and she declines....want to take her to a doctor...she declines.I've recently recorded almost all of the little property she has left changed to my name so that the perpetrator won't force her to sell a property and get all that in cash,like she did last year. That suggestion of having guardianship over my mom's entire inerersts is what I'de like to do and it takes time and i believe a court order.Sorry that you feel that there are inconsistencies.I'm dealing with a lot here,and with limited resources.and all because my mom will not say who is scamming her.I pray to God Almighty that there be a definite solution to all this.Thanks for your suggestions.

NY DIL, good insights; I wondered repeatedly about the issue of ALLEGEDLY needing to transfer assets to "protect" them.....but from whom, in reality? The issue of asset confiscation has been in my mind every time I read the latest plea for help.

Yet never did I see real compassion for the alleged mother.

Ramiller - a troll is someone who stirs up drama and abuses their online anonymity. Trolls like a big audience, so they frequent discussion forums like these. Trolls thrive in any environment where they are allowed to make public comments.

It also crossed my mind that VC may be the perpetrator posing as a concerned daughter. Good points, GardenArtist.

There are many inconsistences, failure to act, failure to research, repetitious pleas, and other clues to suggest that this hasn't actually happened.

One of the things I found most notable was that there are "dead end responses" for things we suggest, putting an end to those possibilities.

Onward and forward to other posts.

I think this is a troll.

NyD, and GA, I totally agree!

NY DIL, thanks for writing what I also thought. People have responded over and over and over with suggestions; OP keeps posting the same request for suggestions. Many issues have been addressed and suggestions made; I recall some that weren't addressed in the repeated pleas, occurring periodically, to indicate what avenues VC has specifically pursued and what the results were.

There are still unanswered questions, innuendoes, and some time ago I began to wonder about the veracity of the allegations being made. If I recall this is also the poster who claims that one of the perpetrators is a paralegal, knows the law and how to skirt around it, which I found objectionable and not an excuse or explanation at all.

For someone without answers or paths to follow, she seems to have interesting information on the alleged perpetrator.

And, putting the whole situation in perspective, what I see has been done so far is to take over some of her mother's assets. I'll leave it to speculation as to what else might be at play in this situation, but I agree that someone who's been asking the same questions and expressing the same frustration needs to take a second look at (a) the way she's approaching the situation, and (b) whether or not she's making any progress at all and needs to seek professional (legal) assistance.

There are also still some issues raised by previous posters which haven't been addressed.

I reread this entire thread. Sorry to be so blunt, veryconcerned, but you've been getting good answers and suggestions since October. If you cannot demonstrate to the authorities that your mother is being scammed then there's nothing more you can do. I think the suggestion to physically move your mother away from these scammers who seem to still have access to her is the best one. And moving her would require taking a leave of absence from your job. I would not suggest taking a leave to play detective.

Again, go for guardianship. That will give you power over all of her affairs, including financial.

If you can get POA, freeze her bank account.

If you can get a hold of her checkbooks, take them into your care and go tell the bank what's going on so that they can freeze her account or even open up a new one on her behalf. Do not let her have any more checks. The better option would be to have only a prepaid debit card that's attached to each new bank account. That card can also be used to pay for transactions at the checkout. Do not let her have that card!

Relocate your mom for her own safety. This will stop whatever dangerous activity is going on

You must step in, as others have repeatedly suggested, and completely TAKE OVER, and if that means a petition for Guardianship, then Do It! I do realize that you have a job, and a life elsewhere, but if you are ever going to get to the bottom of this, then an extended leave of absence from your job, is the answer! A month, maybe two, and somewhere along the line, you will intercept, a call, or meeti g, where she is being contacted by these people, as it sounds as if it is occurring quite regularly! Do it now, and figure it out, or else you are going to drive yourself crazy, only being there intermittently, as clearly they have figured that out! Don't leave her alone to be at risk of destitution, or personal injury! It certainly sounds as if you do really care, so now step in and take over, for her own good! That is what I would do!