Anybody have any suggestions for elderly parent that no nursing facility will take when we can't take her home from the hospital?

There are more fetal stem cells involved in developing your mother's other meds than were ever involved in developing the Covid vaccine.

Choices have consequences, and if a group living environment like a nursing home requires vaccinations, so be it. Others are not required to be sacrificed because of your decisions.

You have to take responsibility for your choices, so home she goes, I guess.

If your mom wants to be admitted as a resident into any facility that uses Medicare or Medicaid $ to run their facility, the facility has the right and requirement that the resident is vaccinated for Covid and gets their booster when it comes due. Same is true for an hospice program that is paid by Medicare. This determination was just upheld by the Supreme Court earlier this month.

Your choices are stark:
- get her vaxxed
- find a private pay only facility that does not do any participation in any Medicare or Medicaid programs. This will be very hard to do as something as routine as an annual flu shot or the pneumonia shot that facilities require of residents is covered by & paid for by Medicare.
- The medical directors at private pay NH will be participating in Medicare so none will be able to get paid to ever see her as she is not vaxxed. She would need to find an outside MD somewhere who does not participate in Medicare. Not ever likely….
- Should you actually find a private pay only place, I’ll guess 20K-25k a month with 3 months up front. & cash up front non refundable paid.
- take her home and you & your family do all the caregiving for her. Being unvaxxed means any In-Home health care companies will find it difficult to do any services for her as they have other clients that are having their care in some way underwritten by Medicare or Medicaid. The IHHS companies right now have a huge waiting list. If they are faced with going to a unvaccinated household or one that is fully vaccinated, vaccinated wins.

Also should this come to an impasse with the hospital and you do not pick her up, the discharge planner can contact APS and ask APS to intervene and request an emergency ward of the state placement for your mom. Happens all the time and that guardian is now in charge of all decisions regarding her. Yes, you can challenge it but you’ll need an attorney for the hearing likely set for months from now and you would have to show why decisions made as her POA or decisions she made while you were her POA were done in best interest…. the Supreme Court decision notwithstanding. Lol.

Just too bad for your mom but that’s entirely on her and her decisions. She could get jabbed tomorrow & get beyond this, get admitted into a facility w/24/7 skilled nursing care oversight; you do realize this, don’t you? Personally I find this a ridiculous hill to take a stand on; no sympathy.

What does your mother think about having her Covid vaccinations? I mean what does she think, not what does the family think.

What's the basis for your being held responsible for her care - are you her MPOA, guardian, anything like that?

Faith reasons? Do you think God will be pleased you allowed your mother to not get the treatment she needed and even suffer, so you could feel like a good Christian? Doesn't sound much like honoring thy mother to me.

Consider that God works through people. I don't have what it takes to become a doctor, but many people do. God gave them the brains and skills to help heal people, or at least keep them comfortable as they leave this world. THAT is the work of God, and it's ridiculous to shun that and then ask God why your mother is still suffering. He provided the help to you, and you've decided you know God's will better than He does. You might as well stop all medical treatment if you don't trust it. It’s not as if everything else is safe but the vaccine isn’t.

‘Faith reasons’ are what stop ‘Christian Scientist’ parents from getting medical treatment for dying children. I’ve read nearly all the Bible, Old and New Testaments, and I can’t remember anything about vaccination. If you want to follow the Bible’s suggestions, start with Leviticus Chapter 13 on how to treat leprosy. Then give thanks to God for modern medicine.

My cousin was 48 when he died this past Monday. He had stage 4 brain cancer and was having seizures constantly, wasted away to nothing. No SNF or hospice house would take him in, on his death bed, b/c he was unvaccinated. Because there was No. Other. Choice., an ambulance took him to a vaccination site & he was jabbed twice after being tested and turned up negative. He was finally, finally, finally admitted into the SNF b/c he had done things 'their way'. And 3 days later, tested positive for Covid, so his 76 y/o mother could not even go say goodbye to her son b/c she has advanced Parkinson's Disease and didn't want to risk getting sick.

The world right now is unrecognizable for all of us. Your mother either plays the game THEIR way or you take her home. End of story. If a man on his literal deathbed, seizing in pain was refused admittance to a SNF due to not being jabbed, that pretty much says it all. And the icing on the cake is that he tested positive AFTER being admitted. There's no winning here.

Best of luck

Pope Francis says getting a COVID vaccine is a moral obligation and an act of love. “Love for oneself, love for our families and friends, and love for all peoples." The Pope himself is vaccinated with Pfizer.

See the Pope say so on the Vatican's own news page:

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2021-08/pope-francis-appeal-covid-19-vaccines-act-of-love.html

I am not going to approach the vax/no vax discussion -
but, know that any facility can set forth their requirements and rules for accepting new patients.
But, given that the situation is such that you are unable to bring your parent home, stand firm, be firm with the hospital and their social workers - you are unable to care for your parent in your home. End of discussion. They will try to reason with you, logic with you, make you feel guilty- don't fall for it. The facility the hospital may find may not be the highest quality, but, at least it could give you some time to research more options.

You could do a hotel with a 24/7 nurse, but that will become very expensive. And with a feeding tube in, don't think a hotel will be willing to have an ambulance pull up and bring a 'guest' in on a stretcher...they might decline the liability.

You might want to lay out your plan A, B, C and D, because with your parent not vaccinated, it will be very difficult finding a facility willing to take her. So, be ready to figure that one out.

Sorry, if getting her vaccinated means getting her in a NH then that is what needs to be done. You can't expect the Hospital to keep her indefinitely. For one thing, Medicare will not allow it. 24/7 care is expensive and privately paid. Medicaid may not pay 24/7. Then you have will the aides show up or not.

Why not get her poked with the J&J one time done deal? The sad part she my guess it is not a matter of if, more so when someone gets COVID in a SNF. So better off getting the poked so they have a better chance at survival.