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The EMTs ended up giving me supplemental oxygen Fri night/Sat morning. I do not feel right, I am out of it, tired and my chest feels heavy. My doctor says it is panic attacks due to stress and sleep deprivation but she cannot give me meds due to false accusations years ago.


How does a person deal with the panic and how long does it take to feel normal?


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Sometimes they call it box breathing. In to the count of 4 (or whatever depending on your lung capacity and what you are comfortable with) hold to the count of 4, out to the count of 4, then hold 4. It helps if you are unconsciously hyperventilating, and the counting helps focus your mind on something different.
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Square breathing. And knowing I wasn't going to die, it just seems that way 😉
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Stacy0122 Jun 2021
What is square breathing?
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I do not understand "cannot give me meds because of false accusations". WHOSE false accusations? If this is not the right MD for you, then get another. You honestly need the advise of a professional, so I would suggest a psychologist.
"help of a professional with. Panic attacks last a longer or a shorter period of time, and people have many different manifestations. Some feel need to a bathroom emergently. Some have chest pain.Some hyperventilate to the extent that they can actually pass out.
For me I had to use a sort of therapy that just accepted I got these ("I need to get off the bus NOW" or "I need to flee the store NOW" sort of things) and that I walked myself through with breathing exercises, with ways to divert my attention from being zeroed in on my symptoms to something other, and by exposing myself to the situations that brought them out, then being ready to say to folks "Sorry, got to leave the supper at this fancy restaurant NOW; anxiety attack". Once I could ADMIT it, it started to lose its power and left. I swear our entire family has anxiety stuff, and we all get it at different times for different reasons. For some of us it manifests as stoic silence and deperate grasp for control. Others have the twitching eyes, the pounding heart and so on. But you are correct that it is different than a panic attack.
So, professional help. Those of us on Forum, even if we have a similar disorder in our past or present cannot really help YOU, because we are all like a "bad back" in that what we have, the reasons for it, and what will HELP us is as individual as our own fingerprints. Avoid meds unless briefly and rarely, because dependence on them isn't the answer. I wish you the best. It is basically trial and error. Just know that you are not alone, are not "abnormal" and just have a bigger "fight or flight " response than some others in the world. I wish you good luck.
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Stacy0122 Jun 2021
Would have responded but needed to make dinner.

So Thurs., before the panic attack, had a Zoom court date. Since she wants compency by trial, that is set for Feb 2021.

Then took her to the wound dr to do his thing and heard how horrible I am. So, I got home son and DIL showed up in this rented RV, I dont really know why. They gave her a fifth of vodka that I did not know about. I had left to get drinking water and groceries. They were gone when I got back. Worker shower up. No big deal.

So Fri was supposed to be my short night. Instead, she was drunk and peed all over when I went up, so instead of it being a short night, it became long. You need to use this debris tool on both legs then clean with distilled water then use tweezer looking things, 4×4, cream, guaze and a thin thing like an Ace bandage to wrap foot and leg up to mid thigh. I am not on the careplan so I cannot figure out why the nurses at the wound clinic do nothing except wrap it up, yet I am doing this process the dr does.

I am not a medical professional, yet according to the wound dr, I suck at it. I try to sleep and the panic occurs.
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I'm guessing the doc doesn't want to give you a certain class of medication, like benzodiazepines, but that doesn't mean they won't give you something else that doesn't have the associated potential for abuse. Hydroxyzine and gabapentin can also be Rx'd for anxiety disorders. I've found my docs to be much more willing to prescribe these two, but I'm sure there are others meds like these, too. These other meds aren't as effective, imo, but at least you would have a tool to help ease your symptoms.

My assumption could be completely wrong and doc doesn't want to give you anything. Just throwing this out there in case it's helpful to you.

Breathing exercises and grounding exercises can help stop the panic. In my experience, they do not fix any chronic anxiety disorder... but they will help you get a hold on the panic.
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So sorry you’re dealing with this, Stacy. Hope you can find some help soon.
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I'm also a little confused... a false allegation against whom? You? The doctor? The person/people you live with?

If the doctor won't prescribe medication, what other options is he/she presenting you with?

I had a panic attack years and years ago, enough that I went to the E.R. to make sure I wasn't having a heart attack; I will never, ever forget that feeling, so I totally get what you're going through! They offered to give me Xanax, which I didn't want to take at the time...I learned to do some deep breathing exercises when I started to get that feeling, which did help to some extent. So does cardio exercise. I have had a few more over the years; in my experience, they only last about 30 minutes or thereabouts; the deep breathing helps a lot; if nothing else, it focuses my mind on something else and helps calm me.

If it's sleep deprivation causing yours, you might want to seek out the help of a sleep specialist, but I don't know how much good they would be, considering your circumstances.

If this continues, and you can't find any other type of relief, you really need to find someone to prescribe medication, at least until your home situation is resolved. Stress can do terrible damage to you, and I think you've suffered enough with all this crap going on.
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Stacy0122 Jun 2021
Thank you, that is exactly how I feel. I have had 4 of these attacks, first was at the beginning of Covid. The last 3 in the last 6 weeks, the one Fri was the worse. I couldnt breathe and was hyperventilating. I thought I was dying wanted to go to ER each of the times. During each of the previous ones, my heart rate only hit 160-165. This time, it hit 212 at the peak. The more I check it, the higher it goes. Today, it has flictuated between 83 and 108. It is really scary thinking your dying.
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Stacey, do you have any time/space for meditation?

Have you seen a cardiologist?
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Stacy0122 Jun 2021
I sleep 45 minutes maybe twice a day the rest of the time, I am bathrooming or work or wound care or whatever else pops up. I dont have enough time in the day.

According to the cardiologist, I am B12 deficient and have low blood pressure, genetic. I need to take supplements most of the time, occasionally shots and need to take salt pills. I get blood drawn every month to 45 days to adjust what I need.
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I'm sorry you are suffering with this on top of everything else. I'm responding because I'm curious whose accusation in the days of HIPAA would prevent anyone from receiving needed medications? If the accusations are false, do the courts not offer a solution? Not trying to troll, just genuinely dumbfounded how this could be perpetrated on someone nowadays. I hope you feel like your better self soon!
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Stacy0122 Jun 2021
Once you get accused, the dr puts it in MyChart and all doctors in the area have access to it.
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