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Although you love the guy and respect his family, maybe it's time for a little break. Tell him you need to think about the arrangement he is suggesting, then go radio silent for about a week. Tell him you need to really think and no call or texts or visits. If in that time he doesn't reconsider or come up with some plans other than you and he caring for g'ma in her home, then it's likely time to make a more permanent break. You need to make your life. You can't surrender it for cargiving before it's even begun.
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Rose87 Jan 2022
I did this, thank you so much for the suggestion and advice, although it was two or thee days I think, he came to my house ready to listen and agreed to living elsewhere. Hopefully he follows through! Thank you for the insightful reply, helped the process!
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Please trust your instincts. You know deep in your heart that this is not the right path for you. It doesn't sound like he wants to marry you, but he wants to use you to take care of his Grandmother for free. Your "prime marriage" years are being wasted with someone who appears to not to have your best interests at heart. Remember - this is not a marriage situation. Not by a long shot. Don't consider it one.

Please don't waste your your young life being treated this way.
Time to focus on jobs, schooling, getting your own place, possibly finding a kind and good hearted husband who will love and respect you, and will put your needs first.
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Rose87 Jan 2022
Hi LavenderBear, it’s been very hard deciphering what my heart is telling me more. In part there is so much love and doesn’t want to let go and the other that thinks that nothing will change. Meanwhile my heart tries to find out what’s up, I let him know what I accept and don’t accept and through a lot of talking he agreed. I put my ball in his court so its now up to him to save the relationship or else unfortunately I will grow out of it. In the meantime like you said I’m going to focus on myself. Thank you for your reply!
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Just don't do it. Period. This may sound awful but if you do you could then be expected to take care of his grandmom. Further down the road if you threaten to leave he might try threatening you with withholding any monies you two have together.
That's an ugly possible scenario, but so many on this site speak of how time-consuming and backbreaking it is taking care of an elder in their own home, and how badly they need relief. Don't put a pretty toe inside that house.
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Rose87 Jan 2022
Glasswall1, you have my word I will not put a toe inside that living situation! That’s a horrible scenario that has happened to other people so it could happen to me. (Although I don’t think he would hold money we never know what the future could hold), thank you for the reply and affirming my way of thinking!
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dont do it ! You will be MISERABLE and you will end up doing all the work and caregiving and In the end you own nothing !
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Rose87 Jan 2022
Literally! She’s planning on selling the house so we’ll be homeless for a while after and having problems between us because I was someone’s maid for many years! Thank you for your reply!!!
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I see more to this than the issue of 'your own home, your own decorations', etc. The 'boyfriend' has been stringing the letter-writer along for years, and now drops the news that he's not ready to leave Grandma's home. If not now, when? That's a question to which LW may never get an answer. Instead, it is likely that LW will be eased gradually enough that she doesn't notice it, into a caregiver role for free. I also have to wonder if Grandma is letting 'boyfriend' live there rent-free, which would be a big incentive for him to stay put. Last but far from least, the long-term inpact on 24-year-old LW's earning history if the caregiving duties restrict her ability to be gainfully employed, earning SS credits, without legal standing as a spouse. She should stop throwing good intentions after bad, but at age 24 she may not feel that way. I wouldn't be so harsh if I hadn't gone through the "if only I could be good enough, then [boyfriend] would make my dreams come true". No, doesn't look that way from here. He wants free rent and a free caregiver, in my opinionated opinion. She doesn't need to be 'good enough' for him and Grandma. She needs to be good enough for herself.
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Rose87 Jan 2022
That’s what I was asking him, after seven years you don’t feel ready or don’t want to make this step with me on our own? At that point I knew that my love for him was more mature than his. Yes he lives rent free (gm owns the house, he only pays internet) and he’s told me many times that we could save money living there but I rather pay expensive rent in LA than be eased into a caregiver position and not having that privacy. Thank you very much for your reply! Reading it made me think, “Yes! I need to be good enough for myself!”
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Please Rose87, do not move in with your boyfriend into his grandmothers home. I know others have told you this, and the words out of your mouth are “yeah, but…”. It will be a huge mistake for you. If your boyfriend insists and gives you no alternatives, then please, move on. You’ve already said you’ve felt “strung along” and now he says he can’t leave his grandma alone. DO NOT let him continue to string you along. I can tell by your post you already know you won’t be happy in grandmas house. Trust me, you’ll be even more unhappy when you have to start dedicating all your extra time caring for grandma and all your extra money goes into caring for her. If your boyfriend wants that for his life, fine. But it doesn’t have to be your life.

You will be making a hard, grown up decision not to get roped into this situation. But it’s the right decision for you.

Breakups always suck big time. No way around that. But do not trap yourself where you ALREADY know you don’t want to be in his grandmas house.

You are young, and there will be other boyfriends. I know you don’t want to hear that, but trust in older peoples advice, 24 yrs is so very young to get saddled with elder care. Please move on. Stay strong, keep your eyes on your goals and your future.
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Rose87 Jan 2022
You are so right! If I’m unhappy about it now, it’ll only grow if I cave in! Fortunately we talked more and he agreed, hopefully he follows through because there ain’t no way that I’m moving in but just thinking about breaking up is overwhelming hopefully I won’t need to. Thank you so much for your reply I’m taking everything heart!
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Been there, done that: he's not the one. I'm sorry. I know this isn't what you want to hear. But trust me when I say that you will someday find someone who is excited to marry you, and you'll look back on this one as the starter relationship that went on a few years too long, despite the signs you were given (the guy not wanting to get married even after 7 years is a big one). I wouldn't be so blunt if I hadn't been through it. I was even your age when I finally moved on. The man I met after that was the one.

I know that, at your age, you're worried that you won't meet someone else. Maybe you've seen your first gray hair and are thinking "who will I meet now?" Again, I know those thoughts because I've been there. What you don't realize is that you're at the prime age to be meeting new people and figuring out what you want in a partner. If you want kids, you easily have a decade or more to meet someone who will eventually become the father of your children. If you don't want kids, you have even longer. There is someone out there for you, someone who isn't reluctant to spend his life with you, someone who puts you first. Trust me on this.
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Katefalc Jan 2022
not to mention she will be cleaning grandmas poop and pee and dressing and bathing her.
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Don't do it...It is her home and not your boyfriends. Your responsibilities will be elevated for certain and you will share the burden of her care. If you're his true love, a girl friend and not an additional care giver you need your own space. I remember helping a friend with his mother many years ago. I was quite young at the time. They gave me a key to the house. The family moved out of state and I was left as a primary care giver - Interesting. It wasn't a job I requested I just got eased into it. I did everything from changing diapers to cleaning waste washing sheets and cooking the perfect not one second more than 3 minute egg. Don't get eased into being a care giver. If you want to help that's nice but feeling guilty about not having or wanting to move into someone else's space is not realistic. Start your life the way you will share your life. If grandma can't live by her self help him find the right kind of support unless he wants to continue to live there but under no circumstances should you feel guilty about not wanting to move in with "his grandmother"...'Girlfriend' not his wife and it will never be your home it will be exactly what it is.
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If you were my daughter, I would not recommend that you go right into caregiving at the age of 24 for someones grandma when you are just starting your adult life. And trust me, those intimate bathroom issues and dressing issues will fall on you, not her grandson. There are other people in his family that could help with her care...they just don't want to and your boyfriend jumping in is allowing them not to have to. This can't be your problem...

If you love him and you think he is your future, continue to date him, but let him work this out with his family on his own. He has to find his voice with the other members of his family and not put you in the role of caregiving as a band-aide so the others don't have to do anything.

Pursue your own goals, live your life, get an apartment of your own and let this play out. If it is meant to work out, it will, but that can't be contingent on you moving in to help with grandma. It doesn't sound like he is ready to move out and be on his own. He needs to do that to be his own man before he moves in with you and you need to do the same.
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You ARE still young. Let him move in with her and update your online dating profile. This guy is finally showing you who he is. Trust me - men do not change or grow up. This is who he is. You can do better.
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You are not ready to live together. Accept that and continue the relationship as it is if you are willing to wait to see if he will ever be ready. As his grandmother ages, it is you who is most likely to be saddled with her care if you move in.

Your dreams are more robust than marriage. Pursue them and wait and see if this relationship survives. Be open to relationships with new men. Your boyfriend is not ready to transition out of his grandmother’s home for what may be good and valid reasons. You have no choice but to accept that your differences are irreconcilable at this point. If you acquiesce and move in, you will resent everyone in the household and your relationship will falter. You haven’t said why his mother can’t take care of him
or his grandmother but there is another red flag on this horizon.

Your boyfriend has been belatedly honest enough to say that he is not willing to commit to your goals. Pursue your own goals, educational and career objectives and personal growth instead. If you want to wait to see if things will work out, do so, but put yourself first as you decide whether this is really a man you can’t live without. Based upon what you’ve said, I wonder if this is really the person you should strive to be with for the rest of your life. You are young enough to find another man who shares your dreams and is in a position to work with you to make them happen.
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You are being smart to know you do not want to move into your boyfriend's grandmother's home. Moving in with your boyfriend, even in a house or apt of your own, is not the "start of your married life.". Getting married is the start of your married life,, not just living together. Make your "own home," with your own decorations and space, by yourself. Your relationship with your boyfriend will progress or not but should not dictate your living situation until or unless you really do get married.
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Is he living with his grandmother free of charge or for a small contribution? If so, this is an example of how he will deal with financial arrangements. He will not care for your comfort or happiness, he will just try to get something for free. RUN
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Don't move in! If this not friend lives you he will make the marriage commitment, otherwise dump him and move on. Shaking up almost always ends in disaster.
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con3ill Jan 2022
Did you mean 'shacking up', the common term for cohabitation? I agree with you there.
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I feel you. You are not selfish for not wanting to move in and at the end of the day it's your choice. My husband like yours boyfriend lived with his mom for many many years before me coming into the picture so he was super guilty of leaving her alone. I tried so many time to convince him but it did not work. I am not telling you what to so because everyone story is different but.... I ended up.moving in and making the best out of it. I lived there for 3 loong years, his mom got ill which made it even worst. During that time I focused on my career and helping out in anything I could. I was not an angel , there were time I would cry and scream how unfair everything was, I got support from church etc. We were also to find someone else to care for her while we still cared for her from our place. Now , she should be dying in the next few years as she is in late stage alzheimers, and looking back it was very honorable from him to be loyal and ensure she was fine before we left. Ahhh. We have a beautiful baby and I have a 65k job. Things did not start how I would have wanted but I am with the man I love today. Again. I have seen many others not making it so only to can determine if you are in for it. You are young and can find someone else without a grandma but I assure you there will be something else you will not like. Life is tough but we can make it beautiful by focusing in the good . Wish you the best!
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I guess I won't even mention what I think, just on your brief narrative, of your boyfriend. Doesn't want to leave his grandma alone? Please. You're going to end up as the primary caregiver and that's a fact. Let's see, he doesn't want a place of your own, he doesn't want to leave his grandma who could be only minutes away, and even his family is OK with you moving in. Hmmmmm. What happens to your relationship if you decide you don't want to move in? At your age, you really don't know what life holds or can be. Its up to you to decide how it can be. But it sounds like he wants what will make him happy. I'm not even sure its as much concern for Granny as it is financial consideration. Have you told your boyfriend how you feel? Did you get an answer that amounts to an "either or" ultimatum? If you are given only the one option of moving in with Granny, everyone reading this will know what you should do and everyone will know that its difficult at your age to understand. It's rare indeed that a man in his mid twenties will change personalities, much, going forward. If he insists on doing it his way, then at least consider just not moving in. If there results that ultimatum, even a veiled, mild one, everyone reading this knows how this will go. It's up to you then to decide if you can live with that kind of life. There are people your age that are not only out on their own but have already started building a future that doesn't include living with Granny. I have a bad feeling for all this, and so do you or you wouldn't be here. You have the option to just not move in. You'll then have your answer if it means the relationship changes or ends which is a blessing that you may not appreciate...now. Later, most certainly.
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Hell to the NO!
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You are not being selfish. You just want what almost every other young woman your age wants. It is a natural "next step" in life. However, I have to say that your boyfriend sounds like he has one excellent trait: he values family and family responsibility. That is a very good trait that a lot of young men do not have, and it will serve him well in his adult life. That being said, you just have to make a decision on whether having your own home is more important than his commitment to family. There a couple of things that you and he could look into. Could someone else in the family move in with his grandmother? Maybe there is someone who would like the free housing. Or, you and he could consider whether it would be an option to find a house that had a "mother-in-law" suite or a small house attached or detached on the property. They she would have someone looking out for her and you and he would have your own area as well. If you have a good man in your life, and you love him, I would not break up with him just because it is not the ideal situation. Believe me, it is almost impossible to find a good man out there who does not have some kind of baggage that comes with him.
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con3ill Jan 2022
If there is, in fact, free housing for him, that may be a hidden priority in his life choices and hesitancy to move. It's up to LW to confirm that, not for the rest of us, so I'll leave it there.
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Never count on another to make you happy. You don't say if you live on you own but if not Get your own place and make a home.I would suggest not living in this situation.I did once and it wasn't good.Got along with my mother-in-law but just wasn't my home.Resentment didn't help my relationship with hubby.Maybe later he can move in if you still have feelings for him.But a word of advice,this guy has no intention of growing up and being independent or responsible for himself.He sounds like he might just be using this as a commitment dodge and I don't advocate marriage for everyone. You can not change people so what you see is what you will live with. Look deeper into his motives for living with his grandma.Ask yourself What does he do for her? take her places,cooks,cleans,buys groceries or is he just there for free?Company?He could always visit her while living with you. If any of these are an answer NO please respect yourself and move on.Or are you using this relationship as a crutch so your life doesn't need to change either.Living on your own is very scary but relationship that lasts for 7 years and are described as DATING is a TELL on your part.After 7 years there is no dating.Maybe you just need the push to move on. Good luck
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NO, don't move in!! Lots of questions. Does your boyfriend work? Why is he living with Grandma? Does she need a caregiver or is it for his convenience?
These are questions to consider, but I would not move in.
Best wishes.
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Your feelings are valid; however, this is a tough decision to make. Love is a terrible thing to divide. I really don't think your boyfriend understands what he is getting himself into. Caregiving is a lot of work and being at this young age, it can be a problem.
Sometimes we have to make difficult decision and that is where you find yourself. What first has to happen is pray to God and ask Him for the decision; however, be prepared for whatever the decision is. Second, once you get the word from God, explain to him that this decision comes from Holy Spirit and I am doing as told. Your boyfriend may or may not understand depending on the decision.
Sometimes as the other scenario, your boyfriend just may be afraid to tell you that you guys are at the end of the rope and he wants you to call it off. Something to think about!

Just be prayerful in your decision and here's hoping that the decision is suitable for all parties involved.

You are in my prayers!
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Imo, bf is looking for sonnets to take care of his grandma. Why can't his mom take care of her mom?
Why can't she go to assisted living? Why can't a caretaker be hired to be with her? You would be stepping into a rabbit hole and eventually there will be no way out till grandma passes. That's probably why bf mom isn't caring for her. DON'T MOVE IN!
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After 7 years, ask him if he's ready for a permanent commitment - like marriage -and make SURE he isn't looking for a live-in caretaker for grandma.
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bundleofjoy Jan 2022
i'm sure there are exceptions...

but generally rose87, i guess:

if a man/woman aren't married after 7 years, maybe it's not meant to be.

shouldn't there have been some fire, some passion/urgency in wanting to get married?

of course, getting married too quickly is also a problem.

there is no magic formula (or maybe there is)...

just be careful rose87.
you want a man who has your best interests at heart, who is passionately in love with you, who can't wait to spend time with you, etc.

i wish 2022 to be magical for all of us, on this website :).

bundle of joy :)
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You are not selfish. You are SMART. Please don’t move in
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He is your first love and you’ve had all these plans and goals in your mind and heart. But it’s not working out the way you planned. So the possibility of breaking up is rearing it’s head and it’s very painful to look at. At 24 most guys are out wanting to start a career, go to school, get a better car, not hunkering down with grandma. It’s great for him to care for her but for me the writing on the wall is that you will always be number 2 as long as she is alive. He’s expressing that already. Move on. Grieve. And then go on with a good life. When you find a good man you’ll thank yourself.
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No, you are not selfish (in my opinion).

You are a young 24 year old who wants to start a new life with her love, not her love and his grandma. That would be a little weird actually. I don't know too many 24 year olds that would want to do that. Where are his parents? They should be doing it. How old is she? Is she not capable of living alone?
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A recent post came from a woman who had lived with BF for 5 years, then married him. After the marriage she found that he was giving most of his salary away to his previous wife, told lies to poster, didn’t save and didn’t want to pull his own weight in a normal marriage. Before they were married, she didn’t feel able to insist on full information from him. When they married, she got a very bad shock.

You too think that BF will change to put you first when you have your nice little home and a wedding ring. Don’t count on it!
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Marriage is about leaving parents - and those in the place of parents - to start a new life together as married partners. Statistically, people who have not "lived together" before marriage tend to have longer and more stable marriages. It probably has to do with a commitment to each other to "be there and work things out" that comes with marriage as compared to "if it doesn't work, I can walk away." Your desire to have your boyfriend as your husband and have him to yourself is the basis for most marriage relationships - to be commended.

If his grandmother is doing find mentally, financially, medically... there is no reason that she can not live alone. If she needs help on a daily basis, then your boyfriend must consider that she probably needs more help than only he provides.

Please consider seeing a counsellor together as you and your boyfriend negotiate this next phase of your life. Many faith leaders (pastors, rabbis, imams...) provide this type of counselling as pre-marital counselling to work through the type of issues you write of.
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Shikkaba Jan 2022
This isn't 100% accurate. I got married while living at my parents. He lived with us. It allowed us to save up more living at home.

While not ideal, it is a thing that happens.
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Please, do not make any ultimatums. They never work out. I did that with #1. Marriage or we r breaking up. He agreed to marriage but I don't think he was ever happy with the decision. I was not #1 either. Ended up feeling more like a maid than a wife. Then he comes home and says he doesn't want to be married anymore. House had to be sold, I had to move home with a one year old and get a job to support us after 5 yrs of marriage. I found out later, he had cheated on me.

Just let the relationship die naturally. Say no to moving in. That if you marry you will be going to a place of your own. And, you expect to be #1. Then let him take the wheel. Lets be old fashioned here where he calls you. Let him pursue you. In the meantime, find new interests. See friends. Go out for a drink with fellow associates. I will bet, little by little he will back out of your life and you won't have to break up. Time for you to grow.
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Read all these great replies and take them to heart; if you move into grandma's house you will be roped into being a caregiver for her, a satellite to her life not your own. You have every right to want a separate adult life of your own; if grandma and your boyfriend's mom both say moving to a place of your own as a couple is OK believe them...it's the boyfriend that is not ready and may never be. You won't know for sure until you act on your own instincts to create an adult life on your own terms; if your relationship really matters to your boyfriend he will find a way to ensure the welfare of his grandma and leave the nest to create a home and life with You.
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