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Mom’s been taking her meds great but all of a sudden she mixed up day and night meds (note all meds are in pill organizers clearly labeled.)
One day she took pm meds in the am and am meds in the pm. Then pm meds the next morning.
Once alerted we spoke to her pharmacist for advice on how to proceed.
We got it straightened out or so we thought.
The next day we spoke to her at 5 pm. She insisted it was 5 am and she needs to take morning meds.
Where do we go from here? Is this sundowning?
She is not diagnosed with dementia.

Just because she isn't diagnosed with dementia, doesn't mean that she doesn't have it. It's not just mixing up the medications, but mixing up the times. Will this cause her to do something else that might be harmful? Like going out by herself late at night because she thinks it's morning? Is her sleep scheduled disrupted -- she's been sleeping all day which is why she thinks 5:00 am is morning when she wakes up? Does she have commitments or appointments that she would end up missing? Does she still drive, and if so, what about her safety if she's this confused? Not trying to interrogate you, just pointing out things you might need to consider now. I'm sorry, this must have be startling and distressing.
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Thank you all. We have applied for placement in assisted living where meds will be administered.

I'm sorry to take so long to post but it’s been a whirlwind.
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Were do you go from here? You have someone with your mom when it's time for her to take her medications as she's obviously past the point of getting it right.
And I know that you say that your mom hasn't been "diagnosed" with dementia, but it's clear that she has it and should not be living by herself anymore.
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Mom needs 24/7 care from now on. Confusion with medications is one of the prime reasons to place someone in memory care. Medication error can be fatal.
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Confusion regarding meds is one of the many signs I noticed in both my 89 year old parents. My dad told me sometimes he forgot whether or not he and my mom took them.

We decided not to wait for any more signs (there were plenty of others) because they lived alone. We moved them near family and then got them care. Their undiagnosed dementia steadily progressed.

My dad tried Memantine to slow the progression of dementia, but it did nothing for him.

To answer your question of where to go from here, I recommend speaking to her primary doctor about your concerns, who will then likely recommend a neurologist. Neither of my parents were tested to determine which type they had. I expressed my own concerns to their doctors and made certain they took me seriously. But also your mom will need care, whether at home or in a facility. It will progress.
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I agree with others who suggest the immediate action is to make sure someone is actually giving her the pills, that she is not allowed to take them on her own, or even have access to them. You don't say what these Rx meds are, so you need to prevent any type of accidental overdosing.

Because you included the words, "...all of a sudden..." I would take her to Urgent Care tomorrow to test her for a UTI, which can often cause cognitive, behavioral or neurological changes as its only symptom of infection. Antibiotics can return her to normal.

If she doesn't have a UTI, then make an appointment with her primary doctor, the purpose of which is a thorough physical plus a cognitive/memory test. Often dementia is diagnosed by eliminating all other possible medical causes (thyroid issues, diabetes, HBP, stroke, tumor, vitamin deficiency, COPD, etc). I would see the primary first because it will be easier to get in sooner, and maybe they will refer you on to a neurologist.
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First, is it possible that she can take all of her pills in the morning so that you do not have am or pm issue? Ask her doctor or pharmacist.

Next, if that is not possible, someone will have to give her the pills.

Take away full access to her pill case (put in drawer or another room where she will not access it) and then you or an aide or helper gives her the pills in the morning and evening.
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I agree with others that she needs daily help. One of the most important things the in home caregivers did for my mother when she was still in IL was to make sure she took her pills. She is missing a few teeth and if she took more than one pill at a time occasionally one would slip out of her mouth without her notice so they also had to hand her one pill at a time. Now she is in MC and they make sure she gets her meds.
My mother would also call me in the middle of the night thinking it was mid day. I ended up getting her a digital click which says not just the time but the date, day of the week and whether it is morning, afternoon, evening or night. Once in a while she doesn’t check it but it has helped!
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She doesnt recognize that it is light during the day and dark at night? Or the signifigance of that? Are you sure she dosn't have dementia? Maybe you might have to make sure she gets her meds yourself.
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For my mom, every wake up was "morning" and every sleep was "evening". We took away her ability to take meds. She had recurring UTIs and staying on top of the meds was important. Get regular in house help. Time doesn't mean anything when you take naps at irregular (or even regular) times and there is nothing to "mark time" with. When in school, there are school days and non-school days. My dad marks time by the casino days which he does with a caregiver. He goes Monday for a "gift" and slots or bingo, Wed and Thurs are bingo, Tues and Fri are appointments if any, Sat is "off" and Sun is church. Activities "mark time". When there aren't regular activities - habits that are different per day or hour of the day...time just marches on without us.
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