
Many of us, myself included, come from a dysfunctional family which adds a lot of weight to the challenges of caregiving. I have read stores on various threads on other topics and decided it would be good to have a thread just for this topic for people to share, vent and discuss.
The idea for this thread originated on the thread named "The Caregiver....How are YOU doing today?"
Speaking of having no feelings towards someone, sharyn and margeaux, I would say I am closer to that with my sister. despite all the problems/abuse I have from my mother, once in a very long while a ray of light shines through, and I am grateful for those rays. I think I can remember 2, what I would call healthy, exchanges with my sister, in over 70 years - not much to go on, and many, many, times she has used mother to get at me. There is a visciousness in her, not present in the same way in my mother, though mother is a abusive.
How have we survived?
Margeaux even if you aunt had been evaluated do you think she would have taken what the docs prescribed? Mother is still in control of her own medical care, so it unless she declines to the point she can't, I don't think she would be take anything, though I think there likely are meds that could help her negativity, anger and anxiety.
Hope everyone is having a good day
How is your father doing?
I'm so glad to hear that you had a great day! Also, you're a woman after my own heart if you find joy in doing yard work. I do too! It makes me relax, and get in touch w/nature. Whoah! You must have a big place to mow.
Are you not up for some wedding plans soon with your grand daughter?
O.K., keep us posted. Hugs, Margeaux
You sound as if you are definitely facing some challenges at this time given your mom's recent behavior. Many things you're writing about in that respect are echoes of a not too distant past, (last year) of what our aunt the narcissist put us all through. Since my controlling sister has been the one in charge, even living there w/mom, and our aunt (before her death) she too would tell me of some of the abuse, and lies. My aunt used to do this to the caregivers, my sister and of course me. But my sister was too enmeshed over there with her emotions. I tried to explain to sis, that even if one felt the way they did, as we did w/out aunt, for the horrible manipulation she knew so well. I did try to suggest for us to see whether our aunt could be evaluated by a psychiatrist. Now, I don't know how in China we would have done this, since aunt was pretty much in control of all of her own medical health decisions until the end. She also exhibited tons of paranoia, but since my mom is the one diagnosed with the ALZ, there seemed to be this prevailing attitude, by others that our aunt had it way more mentally together than my mom. Honestly, sometimes I think back, and feel that, had my aunt been evaluated, maybe she too could have been prescribed something for this. But, I don't know, w/her doctors also, they still had her taking up to 12 different pills per day, even when she was in hospice, and it was blatantly obvious she was at the very end.
Oh, and I completely understand when you wrote about not having feelings towards your mother. Heck, I pretty much did this with my mom, even before ALZ. I really feel that possibly we do this as a self preservation tactic. The last couple of years while her narc. sister was still alive, (also in our care), it was always a recurring theme for me at the way in which I viewed my mom, which was, "you've allowed your sister the total despot in the family to do whatever she wanted, w/o putting a stop to it." BOUNDARIES!!!!! So of course, this kind of thing did bumb me out, and does make me look at her w/a certain amount of resentment. But then I look at her, and see what she's lost also w/the ALZ, so then I feel sad, for her. I too have felt, the "not having feelings." Anyway,
I just want you to know, I'm w/ya Sharynmarie.
I was wondering about the driving issue also, am glad you've taken those steps.
Well take good care of that thumb, I wouldn't want to think your hitchhiking finger is out of commission! Big Hugs! Much Love!! Margeaux
thank you for prayers on the home front issues - I am feeling buoyed up and at peace. i am still learning and putting my learning into practice, and the chips will fall where they may!
have a great day
sharyn - sorry you bashed your thumb. I am sure that was painful. Thumbs are pretty important. I do think it will be challenging to care for 2 people. Re your mum, time will tell, and I agree you can only deal with it then. My cholesterol was borderline high a few years ago, and I found quickly that I couldn’t take statins, so I asked for Niacin (vet. B3), and 3 of those a day with a baby aspirin do the trick. My blood sugar has been creeping up and was worse for a few years after my son died. Exercise and diet help. I know I should get more exercise. Not sure I understand about the elevated CBC. Is it your WBCs or your RBC’s that are elevated? You got my prayers. It is so frustrating when you know a family member needs treatment, and they won’t go. Glad you have printed out the DMV form, and will send it in yourself if necessary. Hope the closet cleaning and rest of the weekend go well.
careful – sorry to hear about your sister. Dysfunctional families are tiring. I have an unspoken cry in my heart - “leave me alone”. My daughter cut the tip off a finger on a folding chair when she was about 4 – definitely no fun. A fixer upper – lots of work! Mine might almost have qualified for that before I renovated – not quite, but I did major renos. Blether away - that’s what we are here for.
Cat – you sound so happy – makes me happy too. Simple pleasures are often the best. Wonderful that you had a great day. Mother is in a big city - the provincial capital, and we are out in the boondocks at the oil sands plants where there are jobs, so anywhere has more activities. There are only a few small towns in between, though it is a 5 hr. drive, and a lot of bush and some farms. Health care etc. and pretty well everything except jobs, would be much better in Edmonton where mother is. Gary’s work is here so we will stay here until he is ready to semi retire. Then the plan is that we will move south to be between mother, and his parents who live in a small town a little while away. I have a property (was a summer place) and we may build a home to retire to there. He will then take short contracts which could be anywhere. My plan, before I met Gary, was to move to Edmonton, as I have a few friends there. It is a city I know, a good place, and in between my kids. Also it has a better climate than here. Moving closer to mother has its disadvantages, but should work as long as I keep my boundaries intact. Her requests are escalating, so I know she is starting to feel better. I have to tell her I can only handle one at a time – making a photo album of the birthday celebrations is enough for now. She has far greater choices of wools etc. for knitting than we have here. There isn`t much in town, and I have tons of things to do for myself, like taxes which are way overdue.
vhope – sounds like you had an excellent psychiatrist. Mother really listens to her doctor so he may be able to prescribe some appropriate drugs, and explain it so she would take them. Good idea!!!
Beautiful here today, the sun is shining and the temp about 75. Perfect for me.
Sharyn: Thanks for updating me on your mom. Yes, that's a tough situation, but I think you handle as well as anyone can. You are sorry she suffers, but you are able to block out the cruelty of her words. On the other hand, maybe you dealt with it enough growing up to understand she just isn't right. If you will grieve anything, it might just be that you never had the kind of mom that you could have shared your heart with and maybe you've already done some of that. Take care of that thumb and good luck on the closet.
Emjo: How do you feel about moving closer to you mom? It's nice that you and G could make the move together and that he has normal parents. What area are you thinking of. It there enough activity to keep you happy? Good health care, etc. Talking good activity here, not drama?
Careful: Your new house sounds exciting and full of potential. Good for you!! How long have you and mom been there? Your sibs are terrible. Why should you have to appease them and care for mom too. Isn't fair. Glad you have mom on your side.
I had a great day today. It was all mine and I spent it doing yard work and helping my hubby mow (we have two riding mowers and it's a 5 hour job for one person). A day of simple pleasures that made my heart sing.
Love to all, Cattails
He asked about my mother. I told him about her recent episode of accusing my sis and me of plotting her murder. He said she definitely needs to see a psychiatrist for paranoia...she won't go.
I printed out the form form from DMV to report her as unsafe. Sending one copy to my sister, keeping one copy for myself just in case sis stalls on sending it in.
I am not so sure I am calming accepting the idea of caring for my sister. I see her care as more challenging because of the distance between us. I did not take it that you were implying I didn't care or that you were criticizing me. Mother's recent episode got me thinking about how I feel. Time will tell and I will have to deal with when/if it does happen. On to the closet of clutter, thank you for listening♥!!
((((cat)))) scrambled brains - me too sometimes - the family stuff is not easy. Hope things will look up for you now, and you and your husband will do the things that have been put on the back burner, and that your dad continues to settle in well.
mother's latest is that she wants to knit to fill the time as she is less physically active than she was. This is a good idea, I think. This last session with the laxatives has made her milder, though no less critical, just less vehement about it. I suspect her energy will return, at least to a degree. So now I am hunting out knitting needles etc that I haven't used in years. She was an excellent seamstress and knitter years ago, and wants to make brightly coloured mittens! Nice to see something positive.
sharyn you were all "hepped up" about decluttering - have you made any more progress? It does help to chat about it I find.:)
love and hugs♥♥♥
I think medication would help my mother with her anxiety but getting to a doctor for that particular issue is difficult because 5 minutes after she accuses us, she denies she said it. In addition to that, when she is lucid, she knows what the medication is for and won't take it because she doesn't think she has a problem.
Thanks for your patience. Hugs, Cattails
How awful to have that mess left in your living room. I had renovations going on in my house for several years and it is very stressful. There are still small things to be done, that the guys didn't finish and I am going to have to hire someone to do them. G has the skills but not the time.
Sounds like you have a plan, sharyn. I can't even tackle one room yet, so It is one item at a time. I am aching today from yesterday's work. I hauled a leatherette chair that needs to go, out onto the front deck. Doesn't look great but it is the only way G will remember to take it to the thrift shop, and it will be gone soon. My living room breathes better now.
I have 2 bedrooms full of boxes etc. - about 1/3 is still mother's stuff and 2/3 G's. I am giving most of the family things away She went from a large two bedroom apartment to a small one room in an ALF, then 6 months later moved to another ALF into a two bedroom place, and bought all new stuff, and had sometimes asked for some of her old stuff back, But then she would change her mind. She doesn't seem to realize that I am 74, and can't do it myself, and Gary is too busy already with his job and the horses, though he has helped a lot. We have given and thrown away many of the big things. So when she goes, I will have another 2 bedroom apartment worth of furniture to deal with. It is nice stuff but you can only use so much, and we need to downsize! My sister takes the nice things that she wants and doesn't lift a finger! In fact, she left a box there for me to mail to her!!! aaaargh!
sharyn, glad your office/art room is getting done. I have cleaned out and designated a basement room for G's stuff, but it is not going down there, until it has been sorted and we have shelves up for storage.
Our floor needed some serious repairs, since there were some floor boards underneath a rug that were buckling and making it unsafe to walk over in certain areas of the living room. The landlady, who isn't cooperative at all, finally sent in two guys to do the job.
Oh! we had to pack up everything in our living room, they dealt w/removal of big furniture. She had to put us up in a motel for 4 days, until the job was done.
This was 3 weeks ago, and to date we still have the old rug, padding, old parkay floor boards and debris sitting out in our front lawn facing the street. This whole ordeal was quite stressful. He finally called the City on her to deal w/the debris issue.
So I'm all with you who are talking about the clutter. One doesn't realize how much we can accumulate after having lived in a place for some time. My husband doesn't know how to declutter. I don't like to throw out other people's things either. But yesterday, I was finally cleaning up our bedroom. I did throw out some promotional junk mail he stacks up by some drawers from 2011. I weeded out some clothing, have it in a bag sitting in the trunk of my car. But I refuse to bring it back into the apartment. So I'm just trying to see if there's an organization who is collecting clothes, I'd feel better knowing that it went to people who are really wearing it, rather than ending up for sale on a rack.
Well, I'm very happy the floor work is behind us. It also really feels good to Feng Shui the place, it does give it a fresh energy. Declutter, declutter, declutter!
The next place I w/declutter is the kitchen. Much Love, Margeaux
Thanks for the advice about dealing w/my sister & that AC issue.
You're right. I shouldn't allow her behavior to control the situation.
I fess up to the fact, that I am a peace keeper.
Add to this the other day, I made the mistake of asking her how her boyfriend's mom was, she's been in the hospital. My sister then told me, that she and the beau were having some issues between them. She'd had some issues last Nov.,w/him just before the narcissistic aunt died. They just about parted ways, and I had to hear my sisters endless, boo hooing about their break up, and that she didn't feel as if she could handle it, blah di blah. It sounds like it's based on some of the same issue, which is that her boyfriend and the daughters don't seem to like one another, and she's claiming she's annoyed w/him, since he never says hi to them if they are there at mom's house. When I heard this, I just kept quiet, because one of my nieces, (the one who lives there), many times does not say hello to me when I go to visit mom. She usually does this when my sister isn't either looking, or is not there. So there's a lot of convoluted things going on over there. But all I can say is, I hope that if my sister let's say does break it off w/him,
I don't want to become her sound board again, w/all of the boo hooing over it either.
My sister complains heavily about certain issues, then she does a complete 180 turn w/her decisions and behavior. I'm quite honestly growing tired of this. It's as if she doesn't know how to function w/o drama in her life! Margeaux
re your niece, the baby and the air conditioning, I think I would go ahead and tell her, as the primary concern is for the baby's welfare. That may well inflame the issues with your sister, but you cannot control her behaviour, only she is responsible for her own responses. I would not let her "bully" you, or tell you off, or engage in anything with her about it. It is between you, your niece and the caregiver. Boundaries! I know she may get upset, and that is what she uses to control people, but it doesn't have to control you. My two cents anyway.
We were talking about tickets, and I got overconfident. Gotta use the cruise!
cmag, hope your meds get sorted out so that you start to feel better more consistently. Let us now what your psychiatrist says about it. I have had my share of that "zombie" feeling, even on a tiny doses of antidepressants, which I am off, thankfully.
Wish me luck everyone. I need to declutter my house, and my man is a pack rat. I am not as bad, but with being ill the last 2 years, I am behind in just about everything. However, I decided I have to lead by example, and get my stuff in tip top shape before tackling him. ;)
My neighbor, poor thing ( her own daughter only throws her a bone, in terms of attention) had horrible landlord problems w/abusive tenants last year. This daughter of hers is on the title of said property, but doesn't do a thing to help/advise her mom out in terms of managing the property. Anyway, I encouraged my neighbor to create a paper trail, and she did, which helped when she had to finally work on the eviction. I believe we all have our personal thoughts/attitudes when it comes to the reimbursement issue w/loved ones, no doubt especially when it comes to the very close familial ties. Given, it is the way it is between your sister, BTW, by your description of your mom picking up the tab for her holidays, your sister has no conscience about behaving very greedily.! We seem to all have one of these in our family. In ours, it's the older of my two brothers, golden boy.
Anyway, at least when you go through this process, it won't become a "your word against hers." Isn't it terrible in our dysfunctional families one must circumvent all of this?
You are so right about what you said that my sister's anger/control issues spill into the relationship w/my niece. I feel that by telling my niece about the caregiver and the AC issue, this could possibly inflame old controlling issues w/my sister and me, of which we've had plenty! I don't want to go through the, telling my niece to keep this a secret, etc., because it is her mom. On the other hand, how will my niece know about this thoughtless caregiver, unless I tell her. My niece's own sister who lives there in the house, sleeps in til 1:30 p.m., and IMO, could be a witness to this, but she's too tuned out, and lazy!
Oh Emjo, I'm glad you made it back safely home, but sorry for the ticket.
Maybe we were talking about tickets too much, and the vibe was unleashed.
O.K., Take care, Love & hugs! Margeaux
Well, I'm glad that the company you work for, has a lighter duty policy.
I can''t remember if I posted a Thank You, for posting about co-dependency.
I could not have read this on a better day, w/talk about that later.
Well, take care of your cut. Love & think heal! Margeaux
sharyn -sounds like you have to be careful too around considering your niece. When a relative is greedy for money (my sis and sis's oldest daughter) there is trouble. Glad the pain is settling down.