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and no, I didn't realize it was 900.....just thinking about Starri saying how this thread has come along since she came in at #89.........

Still waiting to hear about Jerry ???
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Drum roll.......................Suzy Floozy/Floozy Suzy won the COW PATTIE!!!!!!!!! woohoo.....you go girl!
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Oh, as usual I wasn't paying attention, I thought it was every "50",, you know you have to talk to me reeeeaaaalllll slllllloooooowwww sometimes... but yeha for Seeme..Or, Suzy Floozy, I like that, I think that fits her perfect...
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Seeme, yeah I can't use a lot of antibiotics. Lucky for me I haven't needed them in a long time. When I was a kid I was always on them and always deathly ill, oh gee, haha. I never really used neosporan or burn stuff though. If I get burned I just run it under cold water and if I get a cut or something I just pour some peroxide on that sucker. I like to see the bubbles...rofl.
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Oh, geez, mom is up hollering at dad not to break his arm....I told her to shut her eyes and she said no she wants to see if he breaks his arm....what a night this will be..........someone pray I don't use the pillow....please.....I was so mean this afternoon, mom had to tell me some people here were mean.....told her it was me.....I am gettiing close to the edge,,,, will try to read for awhile......guess I will cath her Mon and take it to doc. Surgery can't come fast enough.....nite nite......
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Seeme, am sending prayers your way, for strength to do this for a little while longer... I love you.... hugs across the miles.
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Hey Seeme. You're not mean. *huggies for you seeme*
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Just got dad to bed, ahhhhhhhhh!{ Nice long sigh.} I love him but oh the sundowners!!
Debbie, I'm allergic to sulfates to. I love the wine but no can do. Bud lite is just fine with me. And a mixed drink every now and then. Tonight it's iced coffee.
Also have to be careful with cheese they use sulfates in that to. And MSM is sulfur. It is used in some of those arthritis joint meds. And of course some antibiotics. Woe is us!!!
I love your birdy picture. Is that your baby? It is the sweetest face.
One more week till San Diego time! Hip Hip hooray!!!
Well, I need to shower and put my feet up, nighty night sisters!!
Oh by the way, my back porch thermometer said 120 today!!!!
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holy cow 120? And yes that's my baby Lulu. Yay San Diego. Boo cheese.
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Good Morning Everyone, for me? so far it is a very good morning, no one has bugged me yet, yesterday afternoon was the last frigging straw for me. I have:

A: Steve (the eldest) calling me, telling me I need to do this, why isn't this done? and we (Kirby, Jerry, & I) need to do that.

B: Jerry (baby brother) getting a attitude about everything, telling Steve that Kirby, Nan (his wife) and I are going through rummaging everything, he doesn't frigging see that he and "his friend" are doing the very thing he accuses us of.

C: Kirby (second to the eldest) calling me up drunker than a skunk yesterday yelling at me for Jerry being a little prick.

Well today ends that shit, Jerry gets a key to the house, Kirby gets a key to the house,( I currently have the only two) and both are going to be told to have the same respect for me, that I have done my best to show them, Mom left me the house, the pictures and the jewelry, if they come across any of those things, I would like them put aside for me.

Other than that I am out of that mess, I will clean up whatever disaster is left when I get back from CT. I am exhausted and stressed beyond belief, I've barely been able to get the stress levels down from caring for mom, and now this shit. I don't need it.

This thread has grown from 89 to 910 in just barely over a month's time. I believe we all truly needed this thread, thanks by the way for listening to me vent, poor hubby came home after riding and getting the bad news about his brother to me yelling and screaming like some kinda banshee. Had to apologize for that, he didn't deserve it.
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Good morning. Starri hope that the time away, even though the reason is terrible, that you and hubby can relax a bit at least you will be away from the craziness at home.
I was trying to catch up on all the early posts that I miss will have to do in spare time. Hahaha This disussion has been so helpful. Thank you thank you...
So far so good this morning. Dad seemed to have a restful night. Only called three times I think. Hope he has a good day today.
Lets see yesterday I had me time. I actually went and had my hair cut. Then treated myself to a nice lunch. Went home, we moved in with parents, with the intention of getting my clothes all put away didn't happen! I did get them washed and dried and laid out on my bed. Maybe today I can get over there....Other than that I was so very tired. Dosed for awhile but that was restless. I have fibromyalgia and it has been acting up more lately. I did get a decent rest last night. Think I am ready for the day. I pray all of you can laugh today. Pray for me too. Will try to check in later.
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Hey Vic, I pray you have a easy day and get some much needed rest, my OA causes a lot of pain, but nothing compared to what Fibro patients go through. The doctor has me on Oxycondone's to try and kill the pain some.

What the heck is this "cow pattie" ya'll keep talking about? dried out, they make good fire starters.. don't know that I would personally use one as that, they stink bad enough as it is, burning it I believe would be even worse.
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Vic, the time away should help some, if the time frame allows, Hubby and I are going up a couple of days early, more likely though, it will be staying a couple of days longer, maybe doing what we need to do up there and then on the way back, finding a place to hide for a couple of days..lol.. Hiding somewhere else is probably a better idea, hubby would want to visit each day and I am sure that the stress of the funeral is going to be more than the family can handle, never mind having company show up. I'm kinda weird I guess, I consider each member of the family, when they have gotten married or something as a separate family unit, almost like you would friends or strangers.. and that they are treated like that, you would not just drop in on friends most of the time, if you knew they were going through a hard time, you would not press yourself on them, unless they asked.

Hubby decided yesterday that this computer needs about 200.00 worth of programs, told him to forget about that idea, we have too much coming out of a already depleted bank account. Told him he was just going to have to use one of the two laptops we have, when we get back, we'll look at where we are at.

When he first got his disability, he insisted he had to have satellite internet, then he insisted that we had to have wireless in, so that he could sit out on the porch and play with the laptop, so he can just suffer using one to the laptops.
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boy, this thread moves fast ;) I really understand the need for an outlet where you can say it as it is
ladee - my Toonie is a large - as in long - tabbie - he was a stray that appeared at the door aged about 4 months and wouldn't leave - slept under the porch till the kids convinced me to let him in - we already had the springer and 2 other cats. He is the most laid back affectionate creature who NEEDS cuddles and is a great hunter (bird and mice guts on the driveway) - will head upstairs for the bedroom and look at me as if saying - well aren't you coming? My daughter named him - I am Canadian and we have a coin worth $2 called a toonie We had lost a large cat who was also a hunter and she came up with Toonie - meaning the second - # 2 and it stuck
starri - as far as putting the springer down - he could hardly stand and was in distress all summer - I slept on the sofa at night beside him till he fell asleep as he would whine when I left him alone - just not feeling good I think - finally when i took him outside to pee and he collapsed in it I knew it was time. I carried him in, bathed him in the sink, dried him off so he looked lovely before we went to the vet. I was with him to the end and cradled him in my arms and he reached up and "kissed me" just before the injection - miss him
as far my mum and distance care giving - she has borderline personality disorder (BPD) - had it all her life, I was the family scapegoat yet I am the one she moved near to 15 yrs ago - fortunately to a city 250 m away. My sister is a taker not a giver and prone to tell me what I am doing wrong but will not help. Mother is now 99 and just had a hip repair and is doing well. She is A1 according to all tests and loves walking - now that the hip is repaired her only health problem is a sensitive stomach. Over the past 15 year I have visited regularly, taken her out to meals, shopping, for a holiday in the mountains, In the past year or two I moved her from her apartment into a seniors residence at her request even though we had arranged for a senior nanny for her (who she couldn't get along with - that lasted 9 months) and after 6 months in the residence - she didn't get along and I moved her again to another residence where she has a beautiful 2 bedroom apartment and is in a good location for getting to the malls. I told her I would not move her again except to a nursing home. She is well enough off financially though using capital now to pay for this place and also for hiring help - mainly an ex nurse who shops for food for her as she claims she cannot eat institutional food even though I see items on the menu I know she could eat. She is narcissistic and always has been - age has brought some memory loss and total focus on negatives/complaints and wanting me to "fix" these things which are, in my view just "life". My health suffered from the two moves. I am 73 and have only one full hand from birth and my good arm/shoulder was damaged from the packing/moving, I developed systemic candiasis (yeast infection which spread into many places -particularly my gut) and am still battling that along with flare ups of CFS and thyroid imbalances. I am sure stress has been a major factor in these. I retired in the middle of this as I couldn't manage work and mother. I have been going to counselling and advised to back off and detach. She does not really accept that I have any limitations and still expects me to be very involved in her life even though she is well cared for by others and gets pretty nasty when I don’t do what she wants. I have a few more good memories of my mother from the past 15 years than I had for the rest of my life but even then they are not many and the price of staying close is too great. I have POA though it is not active as she is still capable of looking after her own financial affairs and has an excellent financial advisor. I will be giving up POA and recommending that she find someone out of the family to have it. There has been too much game playing for me... and so it goes.
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Starri, go in that house, get what is yours, and THEN give them the keys... if they are being like this now, what makes you think they will save your stuff???? You do not have to carry this whole load, and it doesn't have to be "all or nothing", get what means something to you and let the vultures go clean up the rest... I know they are going to leave a big mess, maybe you can hire someone to come in and get it cleaned up enough to sell... Wish I was there, I need a place to live and could buy the house and between the two of us we would be a power to be reckoned with.... "ugly brothers" indeed.....
Vic, the sundowning is the worst isn't it... I would just be so numb after days of it, I couldn't think, couldn't carry on a conversation, and dreaded the evenings...so I really do understand where that deep sigh came from.....
I'll let Jam explain the cow pattie thing, but it is a special prize,,,and don't worry, you'll get one eventually!!!! And these don't smell, they are cyber cow patties... of course I could walk 100 yards out and get you a real one if you want, just let me know...
Love ya both and am so glad ya'll are here helping us thru our days of tiredness, being irritable, and laughing with us.... and yes, this thread has really grown in a short time,, when God has His hands on something it will thrive....hugs across the miles....
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I understand what your counselor was saying about the detaching, mine asked me the last time I saw her, if I had ever considered moving somewhere, where I didn't have family. That thought is seriously at the front of my mind right now, traveling the usa I believe is going to work out as a good compromise..

Take care of yourself, you have to have time and health. It sounds like you have quite a lot on your hands with your own health, if mom is as you say "able" to take care of things herself, let her.
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emjo, wonder if your mom and my dad were related... she sounds just like him.... I couldn't stand being in the same room with him most of the time and I was also the family scapegoat... My dad lived until he was 98, we all thought he was doing it to punish us!!!! Sorry there are just some of us that do not have that "connection" with our parents.. I forgave him many many years ago, so it is not like I was bitter, or had resentments, I simply did not like him... I would look at him sometimes and think if I had met this man on the street would I like him,,, the answer is no... I do not feel just because there is mutual "blood" that it makes us slaves to that abuse.. as a child I had no choice, as an adult I did and still do... This past Father's Day I was in the store and someone said something about it, I know I looked confused, and she said, where is your father, without thinking, I said, dead, thank God... well, the fluttering of eyes and pursing of lips that followed were a Kodak moment......why in the world would I say the PC thing to a complete stranger???? So I am sure if she sees me in the store she is hiding behind the toilette paper isle.... cool, one less fool to deal with...How dare us say how we really feel, shame on us.... NOT.
You have had a tough row there emjo, and what a fine lady you are... and good for you for standing up and saying no more moves....if she can do things on her own, as my dad could, then no sense in us killing ourselves over some one who doesn't care any way... so you go girl, there is something to be said for being scapegoats, if others expect the worst from us, not much we do surprises them.... hugs to you this morning.....
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thx starri - from what i have read moving away from family could well be good for you - I agree with ladee - if you can do it, get what you want first, traveling the usa sounds great. yes I need my health back - that has to come first. I have beat back the CFS quite a bit and the candiasis is improving but oh so slowly - I can eat meat and non starchy veg and not much more -caveman diet lol -already am allergic to gluten and dairy. Mother is very capable and has very good people nearby. The role I can take is more at arm's length to make sure things are in place for her, Up till I hit 70 i could push through these things and keep going but I can't anymore and hope you gals (and any guys) out there take heed - it catches up with you eventually and did with me in a big way. Thankfully i have a supportive sig other who understands - other than comparing me to a mare occasionally (he has horses) lol -
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Seeme, the image of you talking to your mother when you are asleep is very funny.
Starri, I agree with Ladee. Why don't you take the things you are more interested in, and then leave the house to your brothers?
Ladee, yes probably you have shocked that lady but it doesn't matter. One young boy today yelled at me because my mother was not very well placed in the car and he was afraid she would get hurt when I would close the door. I smiled at him because after all he was kind to worry about my mother, even if he thought I was a torturer/abuser.
Emjo, it seems your mother is in better health than you. For what is worth my opinion, you have made the right decision about her. If one person gets to the age of 99, she is not easily scared by life (and by nurses, and doctors, and all the staff of the clinic where she lives)...
Good afternoon to everyone and happy 4th of july.
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hugs back at you ladee - totally understand the "dead thank God" response you had and also the feeling that there is one less fool to deal with - tough. I forgave and still do forgive mother - sometimes 70x7 in a day - the counsellor asked if i would have guilt when she goes and my answer is No not at all - done many extra miles and then some. I don't like the person my mother is either - there are a few things I can admire her for but many more things i find otherwise. The last straw this time was when she brought my son who was killed into the "argument" (she was arguing - I wasn't) in a negative way just to support one of her points. That's it -game over - out of here - can't handle that - I'm gone - and you princess can suck it up. I do have my limits.

starri - you got it right - I am caregiving myself too and need to - can relate to some of the stories I read here ...
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Ladee, Good Morning to you.. I believe I have all the "stuff" that I want, and really if they don't have the same consideration for me as I have tried to have for them, piss on'em, they have to answer to God for their behavior, my side of the street is clean.

I figured the cow pattie was some kinda prize thing, but didn't know what you had to do to get one..lol... I appreciate the offer of going outside and getting me one, but around here, it's a matter of yards before you find one, just about everyone out here has either cows or horses in their yard..lol

Baby brother is wanting to go to town, he can't see for anything and has to have someone take him to town.. guess i will be nice and take him.. See ya'll in a bit, if I don't end up in jail for throwing him out of a moving car...rofl..
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hi rossell - love italy - spent a month there several lifetimes ago - thx - over all mother is healthier than I am at present. She lives in a seniors complex with only nursing aides but will tell anyone what she thinks, go to ER twice in a day if she feels like it, discharge herself from hospital if she wants to, and then complain to everyone how badly they all have treated her - she puts herself first and expects that everyone else will put her first too and that things will happen instantly - oh well! - have a good day
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good morning. Dad is up, fed and napping in his chair. It's peaceful here for the moment. And cooler. Windy and 98.
I sure can relate to you gals with the "dysfunctional" parents. My mom was something else. Still don't like to talk about it. But do understand the forgiving 70x7.
Thank God my poor little Dad is so sweet. He always had a very pleasant disposition. I really do think that my mom pushed him over the brink and that is a big part of why he is so demented now.
You know emjo, I thought to that I wouldn't shed a tear when she died. But I was really caught off guard when I mourned like a nut case at her death. She was always hyper critical of me and dumped guilt trips on me at all times; so of course I felt super guilty at her death.
I now realize that the mourning was for the mother/daughter relationship that would now never be. And I have worked through the guilt. I have come to the conclusion that I took wonderful care of her in spite of herself. I made sure she had the best medical care possible and everything she needed and most of what she wanted, (the little girl always trying to please}. And I insured that she had a peaceful death here in my home with hospice care. No more guilt trips, mother.
OK, enough of that.
Hope you all have a blessed day.
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YR, that is exactly why I cried when my dad died, for what would never be... it amazes me still how many of us from so many different places, feel the same about so many things.. I am so blessed to have all you wonderful folks to share with... helps me feel human and accepted... hugs across the miles...
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(((YR))) big hugs to you and to all here.. It's been tough over the years but we survived, and it seems all in tack. You would be proud of me, the eldest called while I was away in town, hubby God love him must have had on his glasses when the phone rang and he let it go to the machine, probably a good thing for the brother, hubby is absolutely sick about how I've been treated, worried to death of how high my stress levels have been over the past few months. He would have told the brother exactly how he felt..lol...

Glenn (hubby) has done that to my Mom a couple of times. I've always made it a point that if we were BBQ'ing or it's a holiday dinner or even a just because to invite her over, to the point of offering pick up service. She turned me down again one Christmas, after she had about broke her neck getting to one of the brothers for Thanksgiving. I started bawling, and hubby picked up the phone called her back and told her what was on his mind. She showed up a hour or so later. While dinner wasn't quite the way I wanted it, she at least showed that time.

I took myself a 2 or so hour nap, sorry for those that haven't been able too. I've woke up in a better frame of mind, feeling better, and while I am sorry for having to get out of here for the reason it is, I am looking forward to the getting out part.

Glenn doesn't know it yet, but we are taking a couple of extra days, either before or after the service, I believe it's going to have to be after, but that is ok..
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YR - you hit the nail on the head when you said you wondered if your mum pushed your dad over the brink and that is why he is so demented now I have felt that about my dad - living with a BPD person who rages and rages at you for years or any such HAS to affect you. A few years before he died but was already deteriorating mentally he called me in tears and asked me to come down and help. I was 1/2 a continent away and with 3 little kids but managed a few days. I found mother totally enraged that he wasn't meeting her expectations (reminds me of how she is with me now) and took her for many long walks to get her out of the house and give him some peace while she ranted and raved. Fortunately she was working then and I had some quiet time with him. We were always close and yet it took him 3 days to open up - then it became apparent that he was not his old self and could not do what she wanted. I explained this to her (she is a physiotherapist and worked in a hospital and IMO should have recognized it) advised her on some business matters. She followed the advice which set her up well for her retirement and yet I was told off and that I had NOT been helpful. He had a few more years as good as they ever had and then to a nursing home. I think i have read somewhere that extended stress predisposes to Alz but i would have to check that out, My fil was dreadful - said anything - the rudest person I met and my mil developed Alz when she was older. makes you wonder. Hypercritical - that's it! I have been and am mourning the mother-daughter relationship I will never have. For my own health i have to put that one to bed so I can stay detached. The little girl inside still wants mothers approval. Good for you for taking such excellent care of your mum. I will not abandon my mum but what I can do now is limited by my health - not that she accepts those limitations. She is in the city she wants to be by her choice, a cousins' son is there, bless his heart, who visits her occasionally and helps in other ways, and there are other people who keep an eye on her. Nothing is ever enough but i am sure you know all about that one. I just can't travel as I did. My sister and mother were quite indignant when I managed few days holiday last year - though they take holidays when they feel like it. I "should" have been doing stuff for mother! Aaargh!
ladee -i understand - what would never be. I want to be past that point when mother dies - as much as possible. She could live another 10 years at the rate she is going and I am nearly 74. I look much younger and still can be active when I am healthier than I am now but that is a huge chunk of the time I may have left. the women live long on both sides of the family - into the 90's and keep pretty healthy. Mother will be the first one to break 100 if she makes it and she is aiming high, I am sure. Meanwhile we try to have lives of our own. I, for the first time in my life, briefly wrangled horses last winter and i want to learn to ride them again. (sig other - with amazed look on his face when I didn't now what to do when faced with run away horses "You mean to say you have never handled livestock???" - where would I have handled livestock? - in my backyard???) I have decided that I am getting past these illnesses and that's all there is too it! On that note time to bath, get presentable and get out of this house and get a little exercise.
Love and ((((((hugs))))) to all - I can so identify with so much of what you all write -yes ladee - we are human and thats OK - I like the "sometimes you are not OK and I am not OK but that's OK" ♥♥♥
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Emio, that's what I thought... Your mother can take care of herself!

Yeahright, you made a very beautiful and deep and true analysis of feelings that many of us have toward one of our parents (many times, toward the one we have to take care of. This makes things more difficult.)
I adored my grandmother's sister and if I had had to take care of "her", I would have done it with pleasure. With my mother, it is not as pleasant. My mother is not a bad person, not at all, but she has never been as loving and tender and "motherly" as my grand-aunt who practically raised me my first 3 years of life, when my mother preferred to hang out with her friends. And I am positive that my grand aunt will be the person who will wait for me when I go "to the other side"... I am not at least afraid because I know she will be here with open arms! This is the real love, I guess!
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starri - have a great trip! You have earned it! glad your dh (dear husband) is supportive - my goodness you are a survivor!♥
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Emio, our posts crossed. Wrangling horses? You are a great woman
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(((((rosella)))) - that you know your grand aunt will be there on the other side to greet you and with open arms touches my heart deeply. :'-o My "babes" my youngest, dead at 23, will be there for me and my aunt - can't wait in some ways but have to make the best of the time we have here. luv 'n hugs ♥
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