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It wasn’t a political discussion to begin with. It was one comment. No need to over react is all I am saying. It’s a discussion on retirement in other countries, in particular Canada.
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I have an idea. Let's keep politics out of the forum from now on. If you must sling dirt, do it privately. Now, I'll let it go.
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I want to thank all who offered suggestions on my request for information on moving to Canada, and who offered other relevant comments and observations on Canadian life.      After I copy those relevant posts as well as the uplifting ones of other aspects of Canada, I'm going to ask the Admins to close the thread for comment.
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Lol
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Do they have lots of plum trees in Canada?

Thirteen home remedies for constipation
Drink more water. ...
Eat more fiber, especially soluble, non-fermentable fiber. ...
Exercise more. ...
Drink coffee, especially caffeinated coffee. ...
Take Senna, an herbal laxative. ...
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Over-the-counter or prescription laxatives. ..
Eat prunes.
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Karsten,

Who cares? Let people feel as they do and you are free to feel as you do. As Gershun says, let it go already! She made one comment. She’s entitled to feel as she does. You are the one who is dragging it on.

The moderator may close a nice thread on retirement in other countries as many people choose to do. It’s a great thread and I hope won’t be closed due to an issue made over one comment.

Both sides sling mud at each other. If I lived in another country and saw the ridiculous behavior of our leaders I would make the same observation. Kind of hard not to feel that way.

Hey, I have an idea! This thread is about retiring in Canada. What do you have to contribute to that? If nothing, start your own thread about your stuff.

Actually, I don’t care what people say about political figures. It’s their opinion. They don’t have to agree or disagree. We are free to vote as we choose. I’m an an Independent, on no particular side. I’m neutral.
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Hey Karsten I thought you were leaving. Let it go already!

I said what I said. It's done. You and Polar want to keep it going, have a private about it.
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I wont name names but someone was on here referring to the Prez as a yellow headed doofus (not criticizing character in this case, but calling names) someone else was promoting law breaking sanctuary cities.

This can go two ways. If I were to mock the cast of bozos the Dems have running, including Pochohantas who seems to have one outfit, a socialist almost octogenarian guy who looks like the professor on Back to the Future, a billionaire who looks like a deer in the headlights in a debate, or my own US Senator who whines, are you saying I am dumb? If I said Trump will have easy sailing against any of these sadsacks would you like that?

Of if I came on here dissing sanctuary cities - that is a very sensitive political topic and frankly has nothing to do with caring for our elders.

People would not like that if I said things like that here, nor should they. I would have never even considered bringing up these things on this forum but am doing it now to make the point.

Its easy to dismiss someone else as being offended when you agree with the offense, but two can play this game, and I am sure people don't want to turn this very good board into that kind of thing.
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NHWM - Besides Karsten, I don't like seeing mud slinging at the President. I bet all those who upvoted Karsten's comments are not liking it much either. Also, you didn't start the political back and forth, no need for you to take the credit or the blame. For me, it was the poster who took the first shot at Trump. And it is not silly, it's hateful.
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The new poly-carbonate sheets of plastic make greenhouses and enclosed conservatory like porches much more affordable. They come in double and tripled walled sheets with enough strength (with proper framing) to handle snow loads in most areas and have some heat exchange resistance too. Unfortunately, the multi-ply sheets are not as clear as the single sided sheets.
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GA,

I will return later. I love your thread and the topic! Thanks to all the lovely Canadians on this site who gave so much wonderful information on your area. So interesting and informative.
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Polar,

Only one person was upset. Should explain things. It’s nothing to get bothered about. My word...ridiculous to even call attention to it. Silly!
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Cwille,

You have the right idea. I don’t mind a discussion but when others turn a mole hill into a mountain taking things way out of context it’s extremely exhausting and annoying. Some people like to stir things up. I hate it. Can’t force anyone to listen to reason. This is not what GA had in mind for her delightful thread.
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TN, no one was trying to be disrespectful.
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GA,

Oooooooh, a conservatory. That would be awesome! Too much money but they are so beautiful.

It was my grandpa I was referring to. My daddy built things too though. Not as much as grandpa.

There is a man that I watched on television who built caskets. It was so interesting. The monks build them here. Woodworking is a beautiful craft. I also love metal work. Here in New Orleans we have the people skilled in wrought iron. It’s beautiful for fences, balconies, stairways, etc.
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If not superior how would you describe the point of view needed to feel free to express and/or endorse the deriding of a person's character and "personality".

A son moving his family into their elderly parents' home is a "deadbeat", an elder resisting downsizing is a "hoarder", certain games form an "intellectual wasteland", etc. are not examples of respecting differences.

When you endorse being disrespectful and dismissive of public figures, you also open the door to being judgmental and dismissive to posters and the seniors and family members described in their posts.

Civility and good manners are universally required for the respectful exploration of differences.
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Tothill,

Interesting. Different cuisine than here!
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The diversions on this thread are bringing up some good topics.

NeedHelp, I had a recipe for a Canadian pie, or something similar.   I haven't made it in years but remember that it was delicious.   Now I'm going to want to go through all my recipes to find it!  

I do like Canadian bacon, although I don't know if it's really Canadian or that's just a descriptive term.    I often think of the voyageurs when I think of Canadian food; I still have visions of them wearing animal hats with a furry tail and canoeing in solo on back country rivers. 

And, diverging once more, has anyone done any archaeological exploration in Canada?    My geology class went twice to a site which was fascinating, the Rock Glen Devonian geologic cut, on the Canadian AuSable River.   

It was fascinating, and  beautiful, as were other areas we visited before arriving at the cut.   Ipperwash Park was beautiful, mysterious and solitary and fossil laden.   We just plopped down on the sand, got it in our clothes and shoes, but looking for fossils was so exciting we just focused on what we could find, and felt like real archaeologists.

On the subject of gardening and greenhouses, yes, I really want a greenhouse.  I'd love a Victorian conservatory, but couldn't afford it - it's a luxury.   If I do stay where I am, I'm going to add a cold frame to my garage, and set aside some space w/I the garage for the 3 shelf flora cart my mother used to start her seedlings.

Your father and mine would have gotten along well.  Dad also was a builder.   Even during his last year he was still reading wood magazines and designing projects.    He built a beautiful butcher block cabinet and counter system which lines one entire wall of a storage room, which I now call the butler's panty (posh, posh!).    I wish I'd had the foresight to learn as much as I could from him.

And on a related subject, I found  2 trade schools interested in his tools; I planned to donate them.  One has a special day for Vets only to work in the shops.   Once I started working on cleaning the shed, I found that probably half the tools are missing.  All the drills, most of the sanders, a circular saw and I don't recall what else disappeared.

There's been no break-in, so the disappearance occurred while he was still alive.  I have 2 suspects in mind, but I know they'll deny taking the tools even  if Dad gave them permission.   

I really had planned to use those tools though.
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I am only going to repeat this once more. No one was purposely trying to offend anyone. It was not a long, lengthy ‘political’ discussion. Nothing was wildly out of context. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

The majority of the discussion is about CANADA. READ IT! Put it in perspective.

If anyone wants to place blame then blame me because I asked if the debate was watched. I didn’t even use the word ‘presidential.’ I hardly consider that offensive or a long discussion. I clearly said that my reference was to DENMARK because of the quality of living which is being discussed. We are discussing quality of lifestyles in different areas of the world. Period!

I am not personally offended if someone discusses politics in regard to healthcare. I think there are differences of opinions and some common ground needs to be reached. People need to become interested in common goals. I’m not Republican or Democrat. I’m an registered as an Independent.
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NHWM,

Canadian Foods:

Nanaimo Bars, Naa, Ni, Mo a three layer square made with graham wafer crumbs, coconut, Birds Custard Powder (no substitute) icing sugar and chocolate on the top.

Butter Tarts, yummy, can be made as a bar, but the tarts are best, with homemade pastry.

Poutine, Poo Tin, Fries, with cheese curds and gravy is the original, but there are many variations.

Relish on hamburgers.

Vinegar on fries, malt or white vinegar. I always take packages with me when I travel to the US.

Here on the West Coast foods are influenced by Asia and India. You will find Samosas at Deli counters, Butter Chicken on diner menus etc.
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And this is why I deliberately try to avoid even hearing about American politics. Bye all.
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Trump and ALL politicians are fair games for criticism because they are public figures. As I said, politics are divisive. I hope Admin will delete all the comments that mention politics in this thread.
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As I stated already Trump leaves himself wide open for criticism and if someone wants to leave the forum because of loyalty to him go right ahead. I doubt he would do the same for you.
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KARSTEN- please do NOT leave. Politics divide people. Yet, some people keep bringing it up. That's unfortunate. Trump haters (especially Hollywood elites) spew all kind of ugly comments yet they complain that he is abrasive. Go figure.
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TN,

Don’t think anyone on this thread feels superior in any way. I know that I don’t. I’m pretty ordinary. It’s interesting to hear what everyone likes or even dislikes. Would be horribly boring if we were all the same.

I don’t want to be around clones of myself. My husband and I are very different. Some of my friends have different taste but we respect each other and it’s fun to be with a variety of people with different interest, some like ours, some different.

I do admire discerning taste or preferences. Many of us have that. I adore dark chocolate. I won’t touch white chocolate but I don’t care if others like it. I can eat milk chocolate but still prefer dark chocolate.
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a person who _believes_ his/her tastes in a particular area are superior to those of other people

is the anathema of

due regard for the feelings, wishes, rights, or traditions of others
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GA,

Oh yeah, climate would be a big factor with gardening. What about a greenhouse though? Does that appeal to you? My MIL grew a lot in her greenhouse.

I love your passion for gardening. My grandpa had that same passion for his garden. He could grow anything!

He could build anything too. He was a master carpenter, a shipbuilder. He would build us things with the left over wood.

My favorite was a pair of stilts. I got so good I could walk all the way around the block! I was and still am tiny. I felt like a big shot on those stilts. I truly love old fashioned toys. I loved spinning those wooden tops with the string. I was really good at that but I was horrible with a yo-yo. My brothers were good at both. They did the yo-yo tricks. I never could.

Grandpa used to make those wooden puzzles. Those were fun to play with! Now everything is made of plastic. I hate plastic!

Grandpa had flowers in the front of house. Veggies in the back. I used to help him plant bulbs. It was fun helping him. He was larger than life to me when I was a kid. I was 16 when he died.
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cwille,

I get that. People who live there already should have preference over incoming people. The flip side, I totally get why some people want to leave our country. There are various legitimate reasons for desiring to leave. It’s not just a preference for a specific type of healthcare.

Other than the maple syrup what other food or beverages is Canada known best for? Or what’s your favorite food where you are?
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BBS raises some very good points - Canada is not interested in a flood of people moving here in their senior years simply to access our healthcare, the system is already having difficulty handling our own burgeoning senior population.
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